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So, I am trying to write up my thoughts on S11 (because apparently I need to write them down in order to get them out of my system) and some parts make me cross and some are just annoying and some are just... less than what I hoped for (even with having low expectations).

And I really don't like being negative, so - if you feel so inclined - please share your favourite Thirteen stuff with me? Like, anything. Your favourite scene, or exchange, art work, vids, fic, cosplay, a news story about how Thirteen & Team TARDIS made a difference to someone... Just anything.

Because I want to remember how I felt right at the beginning when everything was exciting and happy.

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Date: 19 January 2019 10:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] el_staplador
I really liked the fact that Graham is a bus driver - and that this moved the plot forward a couple of times. It's a profession that doesn't seem to get much representation in media.

I was going to make a list of all the companions' occupations, all the way from 'teacher/teacher/student' to 'bus driver/police trainee/warehouse operative' and look at the class implications, but I never got round to it.

Also I thought 'Demons of the Punjab' was the most beautiful bit of television I've seen outside of a nature documentary.

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Date: 20 January 2019 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] lyricwritesprose
I really liked the sheer Doctor Who-style craziness of a universe which is sapient and wants company and looks like a frog. There's just something delightful about that.

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Date: 20 January 2019 02:15 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] promethia_tenk
1) Jodie is still delightful and perfect casting. Her little scronch faces! The dramatic arm flail every time she scans something! Her quiet, concerned looks--I really love those.

2) Best opening credits for Doctor Who ever (and I feel qualified to say this now).

3) That time when the team all told not!Trump that the Doctor is in charge because 'says us.'

4) I think Ryan is a genuinely great character and my only complaint about him is that I want more.

5) Tinker-y, build-y Doctor!

6) The custard cream dispenser.

7) The pure Doctor/TARDIS shippiness that is The Ghost Monument.

8) That time the Doctor had a brief lesbian thing with a sentient frog universe.

9) That time the Doctor smashed a space racist's vortex manipular and let him try to choke her out. That was badass.

10) Her interpersonal skills and mindfulness are actually kind of amazing and really incredible character development. And yet she's still adorably awkward and without filters.

11) The cinematography is such a glow up, as the young people say these days.

12) I like the Sheffield setting--it feels very different from anything else we've gotten in New Who.

13) The occasional Guillermo del Toro-esque touches are a vein of weirdness we've not gotten much of before in Who but is kind of great.

14) Pting!

15) Most everything about the New Year's special was pretty darn great.

16) They tried to burn the Doctor as a witch. I needed that on a deep level I didn't realize before it happened.

17) The amazing sense of tension and dread the first time you watch Rosa.

18) Graham's cheese and pickle sandwich.

19) King James hitting on Ryan.

20) I actually want to rewatch at some point. Like, I am thinking about it right now and I am a bit looking forward to it.

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Date: 20 January 2019 06:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] purplefringe
I am looking forward to your thoughts! In part because I ALWAYS look forward to your thoughts, and in part because I think we, on the whole, felt pretty similarly about lots of things this season. And I am glad you asked for positive recs, because I think that is a GREAT and wonderful way to approach this whole thing, and I wish more people would do :)

I would second Promethia's list, and specifically the screwdriver-making (and the way that was paralleled by the Dalek in the NY ep) and that scene in ep2 where she first goes in the TARDIS. That's the only ep I've seen twice, and I cried BOTH TIMES watching that scene.

I would also say that for all my reservations about this season, it has brought SO MANY of my former-DW-loving friends back to the show. People who dropped out during the Clara years, or during S6, or even way back during Ten's final angst-fest - so many of them have come back and are loving Thirteen, in all her weirdness and hopefulness, and that brings me joy.

I also think you really nailed something very interesting about Thirteen and this season when you made that post early on about Twelve living and dying on a battlefield, and Thirteen as a result just concentrating on small-scale victories - I think that's a great lens through which to watch the series, and makes a lot of sense of things.

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Date: 26 January 2019 01:18 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] idanceshandon
*ducks for unpopular opinion* I loved almost everything about this season. Many of the reasons have already been listed above, but the biggest for me is just that it felt *fun* again, in a way that it really hadn’t been for me since about the middle of Moffet’s run. I never stopped watching, but after Amy and Rory left it all just felt so heavy. I didn’t hate any of it (except the one with where the villain was the sleep in your eye - that one was crap) but I didn’t like any of it well enough to binge over and over the way I did with say, season 4. But I love:

Jodie’s Doctor. She’s brilliant in that she can be the smartest person in the room while realizing that she’s maybe not the cleverest person in the room. I love that she’s a maker, welding her screwdriver and fiddling with stuff until it does what she wants. I love that she’s not cynical AT ALL, after so many years of that being a fairly large part of the Doctor’s armor. I love her for reasons that I can’t think of right now.

I love the companions. All of them, even though we don’t have enough time with any of them. I love Yaz because she is sometimes the cleverest one in the room and the Doctor knows it, because she’s practical and calm in a crisis, and (real world reason rather than story reason) she is a positive representation of an ordinary (extraordinary) person who is Muslim and of Pakistani/Indian background and we just don’t see much of that in media. I love Ryan because he is the Rose Tyler of season 11 - Young, dead end job, kind of damaged (not physically because of his disability but emotionally because of his lack of relationship with his dad) whose life is broadened and changed by his time with the Doctor. And again I love the positive representation of a young Black man. It matters. And finally I love Graham. Totally love him. I love him because he reminds me of dad - hard working, blue collar, loves his wife passionately, wants to do the best for his family. I love that he shows multiple times across the season how smart he is, because in today’s world we don’t always appreciate the fact that blue collar workers can be just as smart as college educated white collar folks. I love that he loves Ryan, even when Ryan’s being kind of a jerk. I love that he loves Ryan both because Ryan is Grace’s and he loves Grace, and also just because Ryan is Ryan and worthy of love in his own right. Graham is just great.

I love the historical stories. I’m an American, so I of course learned about Rosa Parks and the civil rights movement in school, but if the partition of India was ever mentioned it’s been lost in the almost 30 years since my last history class in my first year of college.

I love Sheffield. I’m not sure if the episodes set there are meant to be love letters to it, but they make it look so beautiful. Also, I love the characters accents. I’ve seen a ton a criticism about them and I just don’t get it.

I get the criticisms that people have about the season. I do. There are stories that aren’t as strong as others. The resolution to the spider story didn’t make sense. The contemporary/future stories weren’t as strong in general as the historicals. The character arcs weren’t as well developed as I would have liked. Fridging Grace in the first episode and then using her death to propel the character arcs of the two male companions was both problematic from a feminist and racial perspective AND just plain mean because she was awesome and I wanted more of her. I know all of this. But I still love this season. A lot.

(Sorry for all the run-on sentences and general incoherence. But apparently I have Opinions.)

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