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[elisi]

This is spreading across LJ like wildfire:

Fox readying U.S. version of 'Torchwood'.

Mostly I just can't get my head around RTD + FOX...

(As long as they keep their grubby mitts off Doctor Who, I'm willing to sit back and see just *how* Fox'll deal with an omnisexual Time Agent. And how Rusty will deal with being told 'no'. Repeatedly. *passes popcorn round*)

ETA: Just forget all my theories. Torchwood USA is a contradiction in terms. Let's hope it all dies before it even begins.

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[gillo]

There was an odd reference to a reboot of

Dr Who

for the American market - they probably don't get that DW is very much

NOT

RTD's property!

I really can't see it working - Fox would insist they remove all that nasty sexual ambiguity for starters. Oh well. It will be interesting to watch. From afar.

[elisi]

they probably don't get that DW is very much NOT RTD's property!
You know, RTD and DT joked about this in a podcast/interview/similar thing, where RTD said something about people saying they wanted him to make an American DW, and DT saying 'Hey! I can do an American accent!' And then they laughed a lot. :)

I really can't see it working - Fox would insist they remove all that nasty sexual ambiguity for starters. Oh well. It will be interesting to watch. From afar.
Yup. And if it goes completely belly-up, CoE always felt like a very proper ending!

[http://users.livejournal.com/woman_of_/]

It's a train wreak waiting to happem. *ducks*

[elisi]

I *so* is. Has RTD not been following Joss' career AT ALL? *shakes head*

[cindergal.livejournal.com]

Did you miss this part?

[Jane]Tranter [another BBC vet, now exec VP programming and production at BBC Worldwide Prods. in the U.S.] might try to reboot “Doctor Who” for U.S. audiences while departing “Doctor Who” star David Tennant stars in NBC’s pilot “Rex Is Not Your Lawyer.”

Whatever. If they do try either one, they'll no doubt be canceled after 3 episodes anyway. *g*

[elisi]

You know, 'Rex Is Not Your Lawyer' might work. It's got a daft (and safe) enough premise, and if DT acts his little socks off... *crosses fingers for him*

[cindergal.livejournal.com]

Actually, I was referring to your comment about them keeping their mitts off DW, and the statement in the article that Jane Tranter wants to "reboot" that in the US as well. I don't know why DT's name is even mentioned as it has nothing to do with the rest of the sentence. Who edits these articles, anyway?

I hope DT's show does well - I'll certainly check it out.

[elisi]

Actually, I was referring to your comment about them keeping their mitts off DW, and the statement in the article that Jane Tranter wants to "reboot" that in the US as well. I don't know why DT's name is even mentioned as it has nothing to do with the rest of the sentence.
You know, RTD and DT actually talked about this in a podcast or something - the fact that RTD had been approached about making a US version of DW. And then DT said "Oooh, I can do an American accent!" And then they both laughed uproariously!

I hope DT's show does well - I'll certainly check it out.
Well checking out DT is hardly a chore, is it now. ;)

[solitary-summer.livejournal.com]

Mostly I just can't get my head around RTD + FOX...

Pretty much that. I can't imagine how this would not result in Jack having to take a sharp 180 degree turn towards the heterosexual side of omnisexual. Not counting Battlestar Galactica, because that's kind of like Dumbledore, is there even an USian SF show with a gay male character, however minor?

And I'm not sure if I want a Torchwood that isn't British...

[elisi]

Pretty much that. I can't imagine how this would not result in Jack having to take a sharp 180 degree turn towards the heterosexual side of omnisexual.
It'll be interesting to see if RTD is as flexible as Joss...

is there even an USian SF show with a gay male character, however minor?
Don't ask me. Of course there is Kirk/Spock, but that's just all subtexty. And RTD doesn't really do subtext. *g*

And I'm not sure if I want a Torchwood that isn't British...
As I said in another reply, this is where the finality of CoE is very handy. I'd be curious about a non-British TW. Not sure I'd *like* it, but if not, nevermind. Maybe it'll be set in the future?

[solitary-summer.livejournal.com]

Oh, I'll watch it. But I think I'd prefer either a whole new cast, or, like you said, a future setting.

Ironically some of the reactions out of the former TW fandom corner make me suddenly a lot more inclined to like it. *still fuming*

[elisi]

Oh, I'll watch it. But I think I'd prefer either a whole new cast, or, like you said, a future setting.
That's be nice. Not that I'd mind Jack being there, to be honest, because he can make the leap - presuming they don't tone him down.

Ironically some of the reactions out of the former TW fandom corner make me suddenly a lot more inclined to like it. *still fuming*
Yeah, this is why I stay the hell away!

[sevedra.livejournal.com]

Fox is an EVIL entity and most everything they touch turns to ashes. I wouldn't expect this to work at all. I love me some TW, but would refuse to watch an Americanized version. I swear, at least 3/4 of the reason the show works is because it is British. British tv is so different from US tv. US tv plays down to the lowest common denominator and ruins a good storyline much more often than not.

[elisi]

Fox is an EVIL entity and most everything they touch turns to ashes.
Not sure how RTD thinks he'll fare, considering how they treated Joss, but hey - it's his funeral. He might come running back home and kiss the ground! *g*

[cordykitten]

I've read something about it (some days ago?), didn't think it was new. I've got a German link today, added your English one to it.
I thought they would make a new season, not a new pilot. *is a bit confused*

[elisi]

I've read something about it (some days ago?), didn't think it was new.
I read something about possibly having American actors in it, but it was all very maybe-possibly-we-don't-know - having it produced by FOX is something entirely different!

I thought they would make a new season, not a new pilot. *is a bit confused*
I think *everyone* is confused right now...

[sp23.livejournal.com]

The very idea of this and an American version of Being Human is making the Baby Jesus weep. I just cannot imagine Captain Jack being told that he can't make out with hot guys.

[elisi]

The very idea of this and an American version of Being Human is making the Baby Jesus weep.
I am blocking out the Being Human thing. Does not compute!

I just cannot imagine Captain Jack being told that he can't make out with hot guys.
Same here. And I'm sure JB would walk out in disgust! ;)

[nikki-holly.livejournal.com]

really? Fox? a network that's pretty much become notorious for canceling shows early on? I give it 6 episodes.

Really, I see TW working much better on a cable network like FX or something. Fox is gonna have issues with the whole omnisexual bit, plus a ton of other stuff. It'll be way too restrictive here in the US.

[elisi]

really? Fox? a network that's pretty much become notorious for canceling shows early on? I give it 6 episodes.
Yeah. WHO gave Rusty some Kool-Aid to drink?

Really, I see TW working much better on a cable network like FX or something.
*nods* Cable networks make good TV!

Fox is gonna have issues with the whole omnisexual bit, plus a ton of other stuff. It'll be way too restrictive here in the US.
Also it is evil... *g*

[makd.livejournal.com]

[Opens mouth.] [Closes mouth.]

yeah, riiiiiight. And it'll be just like the British TW. :-\

[elisi]

yeah, riiiiiight. And it'll be just like the British TW. :-\
It will all end in tears, mark my words! (RTD always wanted to be Joss I think. He could have taken a less painful road though.)

[yourlibrarian]

Sheez. Given that FOX had problems with sexuality in Joss' Dollhouse, I can't imagine it's going to be anything near the same. Given the hodgepodge of access to cable networks in the U.S. there are certainly many people who couldn't see the original versions on BBC America. But still, why not just rebroadcast them on SyFy?

[elisi]

Sheez. Given that FOX had problems with sexuality in Joss' Dollhouse, I can't imagine it's going to be anything near the same.
I know, it's hysterical. I can just imagine it:

RTD: "So - I was thinking that Jack'd show up with Alonso and Capt John..."
Fox: "His partners."
RTD: "Oh absolutely. A little three-some thing going on there, I thought that'd be nice."
Fox: "Argh!"
RTD: "Why have you gone that colour?"

But still, why not just rebroadcast them on SyFy?
Guess you've not made it in America until you've been screwed by Fox...

[adoxerella.livejournal.com]

I am much afeared about the numerous ways Fox can screw up Torchwood.

As a network, they seem to afraid to take the chances needed to get a sci-fi show started (i.e. letting the writers write without interference, and giving the show time to develop an audience, allowing actors and writers to take chances). Plus the network is so notoriously conservative that a lot of the basic tenants of the 'Whoniverse' won't fly, even if you take out our favorite intergalactic man-whore.

I think the estimate of 6 episodes is optimistic, and predict Fox won't pick it up once they see the pilot.

[elisi]

I am much afeared about the numerous ways Fox can screw up Torchwood.
The list is endless... And as you say, they are way, way too conservative and interfering. ("You're not in Wales anymore...")

I think the estimate of 6 episodes is optimistic, and predict Fox won't pick it up once they see the pilot.
Yeah. But RTD obviously wants the genuine Hollywood experience.

[adoxerella.livejournal.com]

I did manage to think of one possible advantage of them shooting Torchwood over here. See we've go the out of work actor over here who just happened to play opposite JB before.

And I don't have an appropriate icon.

[elisi]

That *is* an advantage indeed. And according to another rumour RTD wanted to focus more on Time Agents!!! I no longer have the snogging icon uploaded, but this one is quite delicious too. :)

[adoxerella.livejournal.com]

Well, see we already know JB and JM can do they eye@!#$ like there is no tomorrow. With RTD writing them, they might manage to give the censors a fit. Imagine the conversations.

Fox censors: We keep telling you not to do the gay stuff.
RTD: Buh?
Fox: That scene in the hub.
RTD: They were arguing.
JM: You know they used to say the same thing when Dave and I used to get in fights on Angel. Or when Mike and I had scenes together on Smallville. Don't know where they got that idea from.
JB: *does a horrible job of looking innocent*

[elisi]

LOL!

Not to mention the nudity... And the innuendos... And the flirting... And the sexy aliens...

*hugs crack-tastic Torchwood tightly*

[http://users.livejournal.com/peasant_/]

But they already found Torchwood 4 - it was the one in India.

I am so horrified by the idea of an American Torchwood I'm just sticking my fingers in my ears and going lah lah lah.

[elisi]

But they already found Torchwood 4 - it was the one in India.
*headdesk* You are so right!

I am so horrified by the idea of an American Torchwood I'm just sticking my fingers in my ears and going lah lah lah.
It will never work! RTD will get screwed, just like Joss has been, and then he'll go do something else.

[kateydidnt.livejournal.com]

"ETA: I KNOW! Torchwood 4 (the one that's missing, remember?) will turn up in America! ::feels clever:: (It was the one in India. I am stoopid.)"

Actually from everything I have seen, Torchwood 4 is distinct from Torchwood India. Especially since Jack helped shut down Torchwood India, and of Torchwood four he says it is lost but they'll find it someday. From that I don't see how they can be the same.

Though, my pet theory is that Torchwood Four was/is in Ireland. The reason being, Torchwood 1 is in Britain, 2 is in Scotland, 3 is in Wales, that leaves 4 for Ireland.

[elisi]

Actually from everything I have seen, Torchwood 4 is distinct from Torchwood India.
Yeah, this has been pointed out to me elsewhere. I ought to edit the post really.

Though, my pet theory is that Torchwood Four was/is in Ireland. The reason being, Torchwood 1 is in Britain, 2 is in Scotland, 3 is in Wales, that leaves 4 for Ireland.
*Northern* Ireland. But yes, that's a good theory. And Torchwood USA is a contradiction in terms. Personally I think it could work if it was set in the future. And there could be lots of Time Agents! :)

This can never happen! (US TW)

[buffyprof.livejournal.com]

Unless cable. I know why Joss bothered with the network (Eliza) but I don't know why anyone else interested in sexuality would.

Re: This can never happen! (US TW)

[elisi]

but I don't know why anyone else interested in sexuality would.
*shakes head* It's bizarre. Ah well, popcorn is nice...