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Yeah. At that point Catherine Tate was just some random woman that entered the TARDIS in the most dramatic way possible.
It's so funny that what to British people is 'OMG famous comedian!' is to the rest of the world 'Who is this person?'

She got to do it twice!*Turn Left reference*
I love it when they can do that. :D

Such a shame that I missed that. They better allow Jodie a good exit at the very least. Same with Mandip Gill.
Missed... her being awesome? Well, I'm sure you could hunt down the episodes if you really want. There are a handful of genuinely good ones. :) And yes, I hope she has a great exit. Although I liked Ryan & Graham's - it's nice to have companions leave because they have decided they want to do something else, rather than because they die. :)

The only time I could identify with Ryan and Yaz was the racial conversation they had in the episode "Rosa". Too bad we can't have a companion go into the future to confirm that racism no longer exist!
If only! And yes, that was a good moment.

Now that the Doctor's a woman, it was time to have a middle-aged white guy as the companion. Graham! come back! No, wait. He's on the bus.*tries to reference his profession, because I almost forget Yaz's*Don't mind me, I'm just being dramatic.
S'fine! :)

These days, I usually refer to Catherine Tate as CT. I got to learn more about Sarah Parish through her guest appearance on Merlin and any other TV role she did with David Tennant.

I just need to catch up in the right order. I miss having cable TV.:(

I felt bad for Ryan being physically assaulted. It echoes Martha's experience, while being a maid. Except hers was verbal. It would be one reason he'd want to go home. The companions leaving in a low-key manner like in the old series was gladly welcomed. There were enough "death's"(Rory or Clara), non-death's (Bill) or whatever you want to call it in the Moffat era.

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Late reply is late! Although in my defense we went to Wales for a holiday and I had no internet. :)

These days, I usually refer to Catherine Tate as CT. I got to learn more about Sarah Parish through her guest appearance on Merlin and any other TV role she did with David Tennant.
Fandom is very educational!

I just need to catch up in the right order. I miss having cable TV.:(
Mmmm. Why can't TV be free? /rhetorical question

I felt bad for Ryan being physically assaulted. It echoes Martha's experience, while being a maid. Except hers was verbal. It would be one reason he'd want to go home.
*nods* Although at least they didn't try to whitewash it, or pretend things were fine in the past. As you say, it helps with his decision - also it could spur him onto do more himself, looking at BLM etc. It's good when the companions leave because they want to try to change the world they live in.

The companions leaving in a low-key manner like in the old series was gladly welcomed. There were enough "death's"(Rory or Clara), non-death's (Bill) or whatever you want to call it in the Moffat era.
RTD too - Rose & Donna both 'died'. Here's to companions who leave because they don't want to travel forever! :)

That's okay. I figured this conversation was either over or you had other things to do.:)

Indeed!

Bill Potts: Regency England. Bit more black than they show in the movies.
Twelfth Doctor: So was Jesus. History's a whitewash.

I don't remember the whole episode in it's entirety but the villain Krasko just reminded me of a stereotypical racist so and so. But that was probably the point. I was more annoyed by him than intimidated.

Technically Martha "died" in Turn Left. But that was reversed so I didn't pick on that. Clara is second to Donna for experiencing the TARDIS interior for the first time twice. It just felt like two different Clara's played by Jenna Coleman.

Eleventh Doctor,(to Clara): Victorian London. There was a governess who was really a barmaid, and we fought the Great Intelligence together. She died and it was my fault, and she was you.

Me: This is why DNA was invented.

River Song: When you run with the Doctor, it feels like it will never end. But however hard you try, you can't run for ever.

Usually if a companion says the F word "forever", it spells doom.

That's okay. I figured this conversation was either over or you had other things to do.:)
Wales was very much another thing! *g* (Although now we have entered the busiest period at work, so I probably won't be around for the next month.)

I don't remember the whole episode in it's entirety but the villain Krasko just reminded me of a stereotypical racist so and so. But that was probably the point. I was more annoyed by him than intimidated.
Hmmm, that might have been Rosa. Since that was all about racism - and yeah, he was a bit one-dimensional. The problems with racism are institutional, alas.

Technically Martha "died" in Turn Left. But that was reversed so I didn't pick on that.
I think you mean Donna, but I wasn't thinking of that - I meant the mindwipe. Throughout the S4 finale it goes on about how one of the companions will die, and it's all about Donna because she loses her memories. Again, not a real death and yet.

It just felt like two different Clara's played by Jenna Coleman.
Jenna is an amazing actress!

Me: This is why DNA was invented.
LOL. Although he probably did test her DNA, and it came up identical.

Usually if a companion says the F word "forever", it spells doom.
So much! As soon as Donna said it I knew something bad would happen! Although River is (as always) the odd one out, giving up 'forever' in order to save the Doctor.

In your own time. In this instance, I like being surprised.:)

Racism is a psychological condition that needs to be extinct!*keeps hoping*

Okay. I was referring to the Parallel world in Turn Left, where the Doctor and Martha hadn't met.*hand waves*

I still wanted Victorian Clara. Not just to dress up or pretend to be like one, but that's just my opinion. I'm still disappointed that Bill wasn't from the 80's.

"LOL. Although he probably did test her DNA, and it came up identical".

Well, there goes that theory!:D

RTD went for the Unreliable Narrator - Trope for Rose's "death".

It's always sad when companions are forced to leave the Doctor. The anticipation of it all. Although Martha left on her own terms. That was bittersweet.

River's timeline was tricky to follow. At least for me it was. She had an interesting introduction though. A "companion" who knew information about the Doctor's future! Why hadn't it been done before?*refers to Old Who series*

In your own time. In this instance, I like being surprised.:)
Excellent! :D

Racism is a psychological condition that needs to be extinct!*keeps hoping*
ONE DAY!

Okay. I was referring to the Parallel world in Turn Left, where the Doctor and Martha hadn't met.*hand waves*
Yes I realised, but Donna's 'death' in the finale is foreshadowed and prophesied and all that jazz. :( Poor Donna.

I still wanted Victorian Clara. Not just to dress up or pretend to be like one, but that's just my opinion. I'm still disappointed that Bill wasn't from the 80's.
It would be brilliant to have non-contemporary companions, I agree. Here's to hoping!

Well, there goes that theory!:D
Eh, who knows what he was doing. I'm just good at making it up. *g*

RTD went for the Unreliable Narrator - Trope for Rose's "death".
It's a very useful tool, I must admit.

River's timeline was tricky to follow. At least for me it was. She had an interesting introduction though. A "companion" who knew information about the Doctor's future! Why hadn't it been done before?*refers to Old Who series*
Few people are good at writing time travel well. Moffat is one of the few, but generally it's very tricky. The only one I can think of from the Classic Show (off the top of my head) is Mel. ETA: Mel! Not Mels.

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*surprised*

Meanwhile, no surprises for when an actors contract is up.

Companions from the past will probably need a cheat sheet for modern terminology. I think that's the phrase?

Moffat said if you try to make something "too futuristic", it will look outdated, when its that actual time period. He made Jack and River from the same time and added a sprinkle of mystery. We still don't know what Jack's real name is.

Overall, each modern companion had some skillset to offer, some more than others. We never saw Rose use her gymnastics skills. Instead she reminded us of being nonplussed about working in as shop.

CLARA: I'm fine. I take Year Seven for after school Tae Kwon Do.

Me: Okay. Prove it!

I'm asking too much, aren't I?

Anyway, I've only seen a few scenes from The Seventh Doctor era. So don't really know Mels(Melanie), well. Her name should have been mentioned by the Eleventh Doctor. That was a wasted opportunity.

BTW: Funny userpic.:)

Companions from the past will probably need a cheat sheet for modern terminology. I think that's the phrase?
Yes, that's the one. But then every companion has to learn all the Doctor Who terminology anyway. :)

Moffat said if you try to make something "too futuristic", it will look outdated, when its that actual time period. He made Jack and River from the same time and added a sprinkle of mystery. We still don't know what Jack's real name is.
Very much agree with this. Although all kinds of things can age something, and often not what people expect.

Overall, each modern companion had some skillset to offer, some more than others. We never saw Rose use her gymnastics skills. Instead she reminded us of being nonplussed about working in as shop.
Well her gymnastic skills were only brought up once, and it wasn't really something she was still working on. Her skills were Being Human and Being A Friend.

CLARA: I'm fine. I take Year Seven for after school Tae Kwon Do.
LOL. Zero recollection of this line. Also... yes probably asking too much, unless the actor has that skill. Hm. That would be neat. And hey, they got Eleven to play football, which was Matt Smith's actual skill! There you go. :)

Anyway, I've only seen a few scenes from The Seventh Doctor era. So don't really know Mels(Melanie), well. Her name should have been mentioned by the Eleventh Doctor. That was a wasted opportunity.
Probably too obscure to be added, but yeah, would have been fun. I love Seven, he's like Eleven, very much a trickster with plans-inside-plans. If you get a chance to watch, do!

BTW: Funny userpic.:)
Thank you! I like Mel and it's my only userpic of her.

In the Fourth Doctor era, there was Leela who came from a tribe of "regressed" humans and was quick to pick up on things.

Take a look at the movie: Back To The Future.*shrugs*

True. But I thought RTD was trying to find a link between swinging on a rope and Gymnastics as a Sport. Rose was sort of going through the motions*slight Buffy reference*

That sport should have been mentioned in regards to Danny Pink, who could do an impressive jump and roll over thingy (my made up term), in The Caretaker.

In Robot of Sherwood, Clara takes hold of a anachronistic halberd (a two handed pole weapon). That was her defence after the Doctor wondered what she was doing. I remember that scene because it just came out of no where, like her teaching career.

Oh, yes. Matt and his football. He had to give it up professionally after an injury.

MISSY: Well, team, who's going to help me hide his gee-tar?*talking of the Twelfth Doctor*

I think she means Peter Capaldi's guitar skills.:)

Seventh Doctor: Come on Ace, we've got work to do.*goes on hiatus for sixteen years*

"If you get a chance to watch, do!"

Hopefully, I will. I've only seen edited versions of a few episodes.:)

In the Fourth Doctor era, there was Leela who came from a tribe of "regressed" humans and was quick to pick up on things.
I love Leela SO MUCH. One of my all-time favourite companions.

True. But I thought RTD was trying to find a link between swinging on a rope and Gymnastics as a Sport. Rose was sort of going through the motions*slight Buffy reference*
LOL

That sport should have been mentioned in regards to Danny Pink, who could do an impressive jump and roll over thingy (my made up term), in The Caretaker.
Former soldier and all that. Had to be fit! (To be fair, Twelve kept calling him 'PE' so he didn't overlook it.)

In Robot of Sherwood, Clara takes hold of a anachronistic halberd (a two handed pole weapon). That was her defence after the Doctor wondered what she was doing. I remember that scene because it just came out of no where, like her teaching career.
She just kept busy when she wasn't running around the universe.

Oh, yes. Matt and his football. He had to give it up professionally after an injury.
I remember. And we should be grateful for that injury - I can't imagine Doctor Who without him!

I think she means Peter Capaldi's guitar skills.:)
Which are awesome. She's just jealous. ;)

Seventh Doctor: Come on Ace, we've got work to do.*goes on hiatus for sixteen years*
*snort* At least Big Finish have been busy filling out the gaps.

(Apologies for another long gap, but work is finally calming down.)

Amy Pond: Is that a leather bikini?

Leela was underrated! Her eye colour even changed.;)

Twelfth Doctor: Right now, you could run faster and you could fight harder, you could jump higher than ever in your life.

Why was Danny called Rupert when he was a child?*shrugs*

I guess this is what fan fiction is for. Moffat was a teacher but he didn't particularly like it. He probably played with DW figures during lunch break.:)

I remember Peter Calpadi said he bumped into Matt Smith on set, who was on crutches.

Peter: What happened?!
Matt: This job, mate.

Doctor Who can get quite physical. Enter stunt doubles.

MISSY: I've got some requests. I want some new books, some toys, like a particle accelerator, a 3-D printer and a pony.

She had that piano already, they could have done a duet.

Big Finish. The title says it all.

No problem. I usually respond about a week at the latest. It just depends on if I have anything half-interesting to say.:)

Leela was underrated! Her eye colour even changed.;)
She is one of my all-time favourites! ♥ Here's to companions who like to stab people! :D

Why was Danny called Rupert when he was a child?*shrugs*
Because that was his name? But he didn't like it, so he changed it.

I guess this is what fan fiction is for. Moffat was a teacher but he didn't particularly like it. He probably played with DW figures during lunch break.:)
Yes, I can vividly picture it. (I'm glad he became a writer instead!)

Matt: This job, mate.
LOL. And yes, 'an outrageous amount of running' as Donna put it. And lines.

She had that piano already, they could have done a duet.
That could have been a FANTASTIC dvd extra.

Big Finish. The title says it all.
Long may it continue. (It's not my thing, I find audios incredibly difficult to follow, but I'm glad they exist.)

No problem. I usually respond about a week at the latest. It just depends on if I have anything half-interesting to say.:)
And I'll get back to you a month later...

Leela was a savage. More of a stab first, ask questions later kind of woman.

Clara: Who asks for homework?

I guess Moffat decided to write what he knew, or at least what he didn't like about being a teacher.

Pregnant Amy: Can we not do the running thing?

My sentiments exactly. The reason stunt doubles are needed. If it was me, I'd have a stunt double for running. :D

Missy: I just had a clever idea.

Well, I'm going to pretend that's what happened off-screen.*thinks of naming Missy, Piano Fingers*

I don't listened to Big Finish either, but at least others have that option.

If Amy can wait, so can I.:)

Leela was a savage. More of a stab first, ask questions later kind of woman.
♥ ♥ ♥

I guess Moffat decided to write what he knew, or at least what he didn't like about being a teacher.
Sounds like a good theory. His first show was set in a school, so he knows how to write kids. (If you ever get the chance to watch Press Gang, go for it!)

My sentiments exactly. The reason stunt doubles are needed. If it was me, I'd have a stunt double for running. :D
Me too!!!

Well, I'm going to pretend that's what happened off-screen.*thinks of naming Missy, Piano Fingers*
I like it.

I don't listened to Big Finish either, but at least others have that option.
Yes, I'm glad they're making them. Sadly they're too expensive to be widely accessible.

If Amy can wait, so can I.:)
Hopefully not for that long!

It would be nice to see Louise Jameson in a cameo on DW. I've heard she did some Big Finish work.

Yeah. Besides exerting oneself in physical stunts, there are also technical ones like the fast driving Martha did in "Sound of Drums".

Speaking of Missy, I only just watched "Spyfall". Yeah, I'm late and only watching what I've been told are the essential episodes.

Oh yes! As something the Tenth Doctor would say. It was more emphasis on being patient, rather than the duration. Amy had to wait for the Doctor as a grown woman too.

It would be nice to see Louise Jameson in a cameo on DW. I've heard she did some Big Finish work.
Well you never know! That's the great thing about Doctor Who. :)

Speaking of Missy, I only just watched "Spyfall". Yeah, I'm late and only watching what I've been told are the essential episodes.
*claps* That is probably my favourite of all of Chibnall's run (so far). A few, um, questionable choices, but overall great fun. And Sacha Dhawan is *chef's kiss*

Here's hoping!*optimistic*

All thanks to bas-math-girl. Who gave me the recommendation.

Twelfth Doctor: She cares so I don't have to.

Okay. I care a little bit.:)

River Song: Spoilers.

The Nazi get up was interesting. But I focused more on his performance rather than the attire.

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The Nazi get up was interesting. But I focused more on his performance rather than the attire.
Mmmm. And interestingly Thirteen came out of that confrontation as the worse person (imho). Anyway, I hope they keep him on! :)

How weird... Maybe LJ is being screw-y.

ETA: No, it's because I edited it, I now remember.

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Okay, it happened again.

Yes, I edited the comment, which sends it again. :)

I sometimes like to state the trivial. I'm talking to you twice!:)

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