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One last thing.
Still grumpy about MD, but am not going to write anything else, just point people towards these reviews, which are pretty much spot-on in how they mirror my feelings.
And finally... After MD was over, we channel hopped and came across NCIS, which contained the following scene (sorry about the poor quality). I swear, it was the most delightful breath of fresh air EVER:
ETA: Actually, I've often said that Joss and RTD are very, very similar, and never has this rung more true. If we take Children of Earth and Serenity as Big Proper Standalone Sci-Fi Projects, which were genuinely good and had a relevant message and were entertaining too, then at at the other end of the scale we have s8 and MD. Now s8 is undoubtedly worse than MD (at least everyone is in character in MD, and Strong Women aren't blamed for the world going to hell etc.), but then it's only a comic and no one outside the hardcore fandom even knows it exists. MD otoh was a big shiny production, so I expected significantly more. Not CoE levels of brilliance, but something that didn't remind me of s8 levels of stupid. (OK, going now. I HATE being negative, but damn. SO much wasted potential. I feel like this!)
Although, s8 is pretty impressive in its commitment to wtf-ness. MD's problem is that it took itself too seriously.
And finally... After MD was over, we channel hopped and came across NCIS, which contained the following scene (sorry about the poor quality). I swear, it was the most delightful breath of fresh air EVER:
ETA: Actually, I've often said that Joss and RTD are very, very similar, and never has this rung more true. If we take Children of Earth and Serenity as Big Proper Standalone Sci-Fi Projects, which were genuinely good and had a relevant message and were entertaining too, then at at the other end of the scale we have s8 and MD. Now s8 is undoubtedly worse than MD (at least everyone is in character in MD, and Strong Women aren't blamed for the world going to hell etc.), but then it's only a comic and no one outside the hardcore fandom even knows it exists. MD otoh was a big shiny production, so I expected significantly more. Not CoE levels of brilliance, but something that didn't remind me of s8 levels of stupid. (OK, going now. I HATE being negative, but damn. SO much wasted potential. I feel like this!)
Although, s8 is pretty impressive in its commitment to wtf-ness. MD's problem is that it took itself too seriously.
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I'm a couple episodes behind on MD; I need to catch up this weekend but it just isn't enthralling me. And sounds like nobody is all that thrilled with how it ends...
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My feelings exactly!
I'm a couple episodes behind on MD; I need to catch up this weekend but it just isn't enthralling me. And sounds like nobody is all that thrilled with how it ends...
The stupid, it burnssssss! But Gwen is awesome, so watch for Gwen.
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And oh, how I'm just so disappointed by OrchwoodTay IricleMay. I'm pig latin disappointed.
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And I've just edited the post to include a link to this. *kicks things*
Thanks for the plug!
Re: Thanks for the plug!
Despite being HUGELY impressed with CoE (although it broke my heart into teeny tiny pieces), I never expected MD to be as good (I know Rusty, and have no illusions - I mean, I'm someone who *enjoyed* End of Time, so I'm easy to please), but I did presume that we'd get a good story - not unbelievable levels of dullness and stupid.
Anyway, thanks for your reviews. I never had the energy to *write* anything much about MD...
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M-hm. I think it's that everything was so plot-driven. It worked in CoE, because you had this race against time, but here it was all about finding out what was going on, and they didn't even explain that properly...
I never thought I'd say this, but I really do hope this is the last we ever see of the show. :/
Well the show died for me with CoE (Ianto was Torchwood to me), so this never felt like TW to me - still, it wasn't nice to watch something I loved so very much, reduced to this. *is sad*
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OTOH, if I'm not going to risk loosing all respect from you or causing your head to explode, a certain amount of the thrill is gone, I'll admit. *goes back to Star Trek*
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It's determination to destroy everything the show had going for it is... quite amazing.
OTOH, if I'm not going to risk loosing all respect from you or causing your head to explode, a certain amount of the thrill is gone, I'll admit.
*snerk* I was PAID to look at the positives...
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Was going to warn you not to read the comments on the doceleven picspam, but I see I am too late.
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In the comics he's... *waves hands* Well, he takes advice from a talking dog. And that part is the least ridiculous. /o\
Was going to warn you not to read the comments on the doceleven picspam, but I see I am too late.
I only skimmed a few, and responded to one, but managed to avoid any spoilers (but only barely). I'm just going to have to go on hiatus or something, aren't I?
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I can't comment on TW since it's on the recorder until himself watches the previous seasons, but everyone's reactions are not making me hopeful even without clicking through to detailed reviews. And I didn't even like CoE all that much, partially because replaced crackiness with "take me seriously because I'm edgy" without getting rid of the massive stupid. (I mean, large amounts of CoE action were at about the level of leaving the keys in the SUV, without anyone getting called on it.)
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I... have no idea. I mean, we just watch it randomly, and I don't have a clue which season the clip is from. So maybe?
And I didn't even like CoE all that much, partially because replaced crackiness with "take me seriously because I'm edgy" without getting rid of the massive stupid.
Well if you found CoE stupid, MD is going to have you throwing things at the TV.
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MD, however, is (IMHO) the worst season of the lot. *is sad* (S1 was VERY patchy, but I still enjoyed it...)
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(Yeah. As far as I'm concerned, TW has a lot of fun going for it but it was just hitting its stride in S2 when RTD decided he wanted to play a different game and if everyone didn't like it he'd take his toys and go home.)
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And RTD didn't have all that much to do with it prior to CoE. Well it was his invention, but other people did a lot of the overseeing. I admire what he did with CoE, but he did cannibalise the show in the process (and he admits as much himself). But you know - his show, he can do what he wants... And we are free not to watch. *shrugs*
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This series was one of the very worst things I have ever watched. I can't remember seeing in one place so many dropped plot-lines, so many pointless characters or, in ostensible science fiction, so much half-assed world-building and ludicrously naive political commentary.
summs up my response to MD so perfectly that I almost died laughing... his responses were so creepily in line with my own that I wondered if he'd been inside my head (and I was very glad to see someone besides me had a similar reaction, right down to "I want those ten hours of my life back.").
Meanwhile, my boss is wondering what I'm chuckling at. ; )
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Oh, my pleasure!
summs up my response to MD so perfectly that I almost died laughing... his responses were so creepily in line with my own that I wondered if he'd been inside my head (and I was very glad to see someone besides me had a similar reaction, right down to "I want those ten hours of my life back.").
I remember finding one a few months ago, which was also pretty spot-on, but I think I've lost the link. But yes - there is so much wrong you don't even know where to start.
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