elisi: Edwin holding a tiny snowman (RTD kills the things you love)
elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2011-09-16 01:02 pm
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One last thing.

Still grumpy about MD, but am not going to write anything else, just point people towards these reviews, which are pretty much spot-on in how they mirror my feelings.

And finally... After MD was over, we channel hopped and came across NCIS, which contained the following scene (sorry about the poor quality). I swear, it was the most delightful breath of fresh air EVER:



ETA: Actually, I've often said that Joss and RTD are very, very similar, and never has this rung more true. If we take Children of Earth and Serenity as Big Proper Standalone Sci-Fi Projects, which were genuinely good and had a relevant message and were entertaining too, then at at the other end of the scale we have s8 and MD. Now s8 is undoubtedly worse than MD (at least everyone is in character in MD, and Strong Women aren't blamed for the world going to hell etc.), but then it's only a comic and no one outside the hardcore fandom even knows it exists. MD otoh was a big shiny production, so I expected significantly more. Not CoE levels of brilliance, but something that didn't remind me of s8 levels of stupid. (OK, going now. I HATE being negative, but damn. SO much wasted potential. I feel like this!)

Although, s8 is pretty impressive in its commitment to wtf-ness. MD's problem is that it took itself too seriously.
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[identity profile] keestone.livejournal.com 2011-09-16 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I take it NCIS has found its stride again? We'd not-so-accidentally forgotten to continue watching it a while ago because we'd decided it felt like the writers had lost all sense of the characters and were writing badfic caricatures instead, but that looks like the real deal.

I can't comment on TW since it's on the recorder until himself watches the previous seasons, but everyone's reactions are not making me hopeful even without clicking through to detailed reviews. And I didn't even like CoE all that much, partially because replaced crackiness with "take me seriously because I'm edgy" without getting rid of the massive stupid. (I mean, large amounts of CoE action were at about the level of leaving the keys in the SUV, without anyone getting called on it.)
elisi: Edwin holding a tiny snowman (Torchwood yeah! by lay_of_luthien)

[personal profile] elisi 2011-09-16 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I take it NCIS has found its stride again?
I... have no idea. I mean, we just watch it randomly, and I don't have a clue which season the clip is from. So maybe?

And I didn't even like CoE all that much, partially because replaced crackiness with "take me seriously because I'm edgy" without getting rid of the massive stupid.
Well if you found CoE stupid, MD is going to have you throwing things at the TV.

[identity profile] keestone.livejournal.com 2011-09-16 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Hoo boy. I'm definitely going to have to have us go in a bit forewarned. We're up through They Keep Killing Suzie right now, and so far Beloved's main comment has been, "they really just have Jack randomly kill someone every episode, don't they?" And he's kinda right, although I hadn't actually thought of it that way. I'd just watched TW streaming a bit because it was a good distraction from my thesis and so many good fic writers found interesting things to work with. Even more-so than Harry Potter, Torchwood has been more interesting because of the fandom than the canon for me, but it can be a bit difficult to explain that to someone who doesn't read fic.
elisi: Edwin holding a tiny snowman (They were Torchwood by casett)

[personal profile] elisi 2011-09-16 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh TW is totally worth watching for the fic. ♥

MD, however, is (IMHO) the worst season of the lot. *is sad* (S1 was VERY patchy, but I still enjoyed it...)

[identity profile] keestone.livejournal.com 2011-09-16 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Your fic is VERY MUCH included in that statement. :D

(Yeah. As far as I'm concerned, TW has a lot of fun going for it but it was just hitting its stride in S2 when RTD decided he wanted to play a different game and if everyone didn't like it he'd take his toys and go home.)
elisi: Edwin holding a tiny snowman (Stopwatch by kathyh)

[personal profile] elisi 2011-09-16 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Aww, thank you. *blushes* (I think it's partly because the show is crack. It gives the fic writers the license to do ANYTHING!)

And RTD didn't have all that much to do with it prior to CoE. Well it was his invention, but other people did a lot of the overseeing. I admire what he did with CoE, but he did cannibalise the show in the process (and he admits as much himself). But you know - his show, he can do what he wants... And we are free not to watch. *shrugs*
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