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[elisi]

It's the birthday of two lovely LJ ladies today: sp23 and jamalov29! Hope you're both having a fabulous day, dears! *squishes you both*

So, in the spirit of present giving and all that, I have a little something for those on my flist who might not have it already: Song 2 by Blur (it is the song that plays as John and Jack start whaling on each other, in case you were wondering). Enjoy! :)

Blur song 2

WOOHOO!
WOOHOO!
WOOHOO!
WOOHOO!

I got my head checked
By a jumbo jet
It wasn't easy
But nothing is,
No -

WOOHOO!
When I feel heavy metal WOOHOO!
And I'm pins and I'm needles WOOHOO!
Well I lie and I'm easy
All of the time but I'm never sure why I need you
Pleased to meet you!

I got my head done
When I was young
It's not my problem
It's not my - problem -

WOOHOO!
When I feel heavy metal WOOHOO!
And I'm pins and I'm needles WOOHOO!
Well I lie and I'm easy
All of the time but I'm never sure why I need you
Pleased to meet you!

Yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah
Oh, yeah


Now re. that smoking hot teaser... As people have noted, Buffy did violence + sex already in ‘Smashed’, and Angel did it in ‘Destiny’ (although there was only UST of course...). However I adore Jack/John for being wonderfully different. And the difference is simply this (to quote the song): ‘Woo-hoo!’

Jack and John aren’t just turned on - they’re having *fun*! The Buffy/Spike scene in ‘Smashed’ was the culmination of 5 years worth of UST, with layers and layers of layers to every interaction. The Spike/Angel scene in ‘Destiny’ was 120 years worth of resentment and anger released all in one go. (Don’t get me wrong, I adore those scenes in ways I cannot describe, and wouldn't change a thing! But they’re both heavy on the angst.)

But Jack/John... oh there might be resentment (have to wait to see the ep), but most of all there’s joy and glee and revelling in a shared understanding of how they work. (I could totally see this as a typical Spike/Angel reunion a century or so in the future.)

You see, the reason I have ‘Song 2’ is because of stoney321’s Spangel fanmix. This is what she says about it:

Spike gets a Slayer: Blur, Song2. WHOO HOO!!! And I feel heavy metal!! Spike. Boxer Rebellion. Fire. jumping over the barrel. That's it.

It’s a ‘Hells Yeah!’ song. :)

Oh and the scene is also the perfect example of why Torchwood is a *good* thing. Don’t get me wrong, I adore Doctor Who, but it is a *family* show... and showing a character getting totally turned on by violence is something I doubt they’ll ever show. (OK, there was The Master, but he was *evil* and it was fairly subtly done. Torchwood? Not so much with the subtle. ::loves show::) ETA: It strikes me that I should probably add that this was of course its downfall in S1. *crosses fingers for S2*

Oh and Jealous!Ianto is one of the cutest things ever! *pets him* :)


ETA: Here is one of the prettiest wallpapers of all time!

Comments

[jamalov29.livejournal.com]

Thank you, dear Elisabeth. ::hugs ::

[elisi]

My pleasure. If I had time I'd totally have written some sweet Spuffy for you, but I've not had time for writing in ages!

*hugs*

[flake-sake.livejournal.com]

But Jack/John... oh there might be resentment (have to wait to see the ep), but most of all there’s joy and glee and revelling in a shared understanding of how they work.
Total agreement! That's exactly why I love the scene so much. That joy he takes from violence was also one of the things I liked best about Spike. I just can't resist someone, who goes to a fight with a smile on his face (Love the speech, he gives Angelus about this in the mine backflash)

Torchwood? Not so much with the subtle. ::loves show::)
It walks a fine line there and during first season the fell off several times. But if the second season is as cool as the previews it could really rule television. Less angst, more fun and dare and it might be perfect (more JM could not hurt as well).

Thanks for the links :)
ETA: I have the wallpaper set as background...it's sooo beautiful

[elisi]

I just can't resist someone, who goes to a fight with a smile on his face
::much nodding:: Jack's face esp just makes me go *guh*. He's just so... free. :)

It walks a fine line there and during first season the fell off several times.
I think 'several' is a bit of an underestimation. ;) But I am made of optimism, so I'll hold out hope for S2 until I've been proven wrong. It can't be worse...

Thanks for the links :)
Totally my plesaure! And I've got the wallpaper gracing my desktop too... Mmmmm, so gorgeous! *drowns in teh pretty*

[flake-sake.livejournal.com]

Jack's face esp just makes me go *guh*. He's just so... free. :)
Yes, that puts a smile on my face, every time I see it in a character. It's why I can watch old Robin Hood and musketeer movies so often. Can't tell you, how much I love it combined with man on man action, for that alone RTD deserves a kiss.
What makes me a bit sad is that I'd like to see it in women more often. Buffy had a little of it, Faith more so but never with the lighthearted swashbuckler attitude. Starbuck in BSG maybe, but even she got an angst overload.

[elisi]

Yes, that puts a smile on my face, every time I see it in a character.
Same here. (Esp Spike in 'Doomed' and 'Get it Done'! *g*)

Can't tell you, how much I love it combined with man on man action, for that alone RTD deserves a kiss.
I'm still stunned at how much I'm squeeing over Torchwood. Who'd have thunk, eh?

What makes me a bit sad is that I'd like to see it in women more often.
I think it's a very male thing, to be honest. Not that women can't have it - I'm suddenly thinking of Kennedy's "I could get used to this!" in 'Chosen' - but there it's a Slayer thing. Any other examples really are rather angsty...

[flake-sake.livejournal.com]

Esp Spike in 'Doomed' and 'Get it Done'! *g*
Oh Yes!!!

Who'd have thunk, eh?
Not me :)
I just hope, they can keep it up without JM.

I think it's a very male thing, to be honest. Not that women can't have it I love it on women, more so because it's so rare. Could watch Starbuck's fistfights over and over. Kennedy could have gone there I think, but until I get my perfect girl panache, I'm doing very well, with the kissing boys :)

[elisi]

I just hope, they can keep it up without JM.
*nods a lot* But from the interviews I've skimmed they do seem to have a much better idea of what they're doing this year. *crosses fingers*

until I get my perfect girl panache, I'm doing very well, with the kissing boys :)
Three cheers for Torchwood! :)

[sp23.livejournal.com]

Thank you for the birthday wishes and for the link to that poster which I hadn't yet seen and.... GAH! :D

[elisi]

Heeeee! Being the bringer of joy and hotness is a wonderful thing! *g*

[shapinglight]

Oh and Jealous!Ianto is one of the cutest things ever! *pets him* :)

:Shudder:

Sorry - don't agree, unless he's had a personality transplant.

[elisi]

Heh. Actually fic was *very* helpful when it came to 'getting' Ianto (although the stopwatch talk sold me on the ship completely. Sorry, I am shallow).

[lynnenne]

Thanks for uploading that song. (And thanks to Stoney for putting it on her fanmix. :)

there’s joy and glee and revelling in a shared understanding of how they work.

You've summed up my feelings about the scene exactly. They're not just fighting, they're *loving* it. And that makes me love it, too.

I could totally see this as a typical Spike/Angel reunion a century or so in the future.

Dude. I could see this as a typical S/A reunion *now*. I really think their relationship at the end of "Not Fade Away" is very, very far from where it was in "Destiny." They almost had that kind of reunion in "Why We Fight" and "School Hard," but Spike was evil and Angel not so much, so that got between them. Now that they're both on the same side, I think they'd be overjoyed to see each other again after a long separation. I wish they were doing it that way in the comics. (Though my theory is that the current animosity is a front, and there's much more going on than meets the eye.)

[elisi]

Thanks for uploading that song. (And thanks to Stoney for putting it on her fanmix. :)
My pleasure. And it still puts a giant grin on my face every time I watch the scene!

You've summed up my feelings about the scene exactly. They're not just fighting, they're *loving* it. And that makes me love it, too.
You know I almost didn't post this, since I thought that it was kinda way obvious, but then I figured - hey, fandom is about talking just for the sake of it, so why not? And mmmmm it's so brilliant. :)

Dude. I could see this as a typical S/A reunion *now*.
Heh. Well yes and no... I think there'd have to be some sort of catalyst or other to get them to start snogging each other's faces of, but other than that - yes. What I mean was more that this could become a pattern - be together for a while, split up, major fireworks when they met again. So five years, a century... it's all the same.

I wish they were doing it that way in the comics.
*nods a lot* My god if Brian got them to kiss I'd probably combust or something... (And I'm sure he knows it too. Think he's bribe-able?)

[zanthinegirl.livejournal.com]

Thanks-- that's one song I didn't have. Cool!

I want to love Torchwood. It had moments I loved, but the whole doesn't follow organically. I hear they've grown a sense of humor this year... That should do it for me unless they really mangle it! And we get to watch only a couple of weeks behind you! Doctor Who is months behind...

[elisi]

Thanks-- that's one song I didn't have. Cool!
Yay. *is pleased*

I want to love Torchwood. It had moments I loved, but the whole doesn't follow organically.
Amen. Its faults last year were too numerous to list (and I still haven't got it on tape... it's not the kinda show I really wanted to re-watch.)

Anyway, here's to season 2! *crosses fingers like mad*

And we get to watch only a couple of weeks behind you! Doctor Who is months behind...
It's going to be interesting to see how that works!

[rogue-planet.livejournal.com]

When I saw that scene, all I could think was, 'You know, Jack kinda looks like Angel.' A totally extra level of hotness there.

[elisi]

'You know, Jack kinda looks like Angel.'
There *must* be manips somewhere already... :)

[(Anonymous)]

in the season 2 trailer, I was struck by someone resembling Angel, and it wasn't Jack. From the angle he's shown in there, Rhys looks like what Angel might have looked like if he turned into a couch potato. o_o;; I'm not insinuating that Rhys is fat, just that he isn't in an as athletic shape as Angel.

[elisi]

Heh. Well Angel wasn't in all that great a shape in some of the middle seasons... ;)

[coneyislandbaby]

Oooh. I've always thought Kai Owen (Rhys) looked like a slightly chunkier David Boreanaz - I've commented on it to several friends offline as well as online. Hee! Good to know others see it.