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Spoilery preview of S8 issue 4.
Dude! Amy *saved* Warren before Willow killed him? WTF? Apart from all the enormous issues it raises (what about The First? How did Willow not *notice* that she wasn't the one killing him (/making him disappear)? What about Willow's whole S7 arc? What does Amy see in a misogynist pig who kills girls for fun? Etc. etc.), then there is this (which has been bothering me since Amy was first revealed): How come they didn't get out of Sunnydale before the apocalypse? Even ordinary people could feel that something bad was coming and left town, so surely a smart girl like Amy would get the hell out before the whole place collapsed?
It doesn't make sense!!!! Did working on Wonder Woman break something vital in Joss' brain? I know he never cared all that much about 'how things worked', bending the rules so he could get to the emotional part, but this is... *throws hands up*
Thank the powers above that this never made it to the screen!
Dude! Amy *saved* Warren before Willow killed him? WTF? Apart from all the enormous issues it raises (what about The First? How did Willow not *notice* that she wasn't the one killing him (/making him disappear)? What about Willow's whole S7 arc? What does Amy see in a misogynist pig who kills girls for fun? Etc. etc.), then there is this (which has been bothering me since Amy was first revealed): How come they didn't get out of Sunnydale before the apocalypse? Even ordinary people could feel that something bad was coming and left town, so surely a smart girl like Amy would get the hell out before the whole place collapsed?
It doesn't make sense!!!! Did working on Wonder Woman break something vital in Joss' brain? I know he never cared all that much about 'how things worked', bending the rules so he could get to the emotional part, but this is... *throws hands up*
Thank the powers above that this never made it to the screen!
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Yes but how exactly? Or did Willow kill him after all and Amy revived him? It's infuriatingly vague and (as I said to
if you read the comic instead of just skimming it to find things to be outraged over.
I did read it, and I was mostly just disappointed. This post was my gut-reaction. I'd not read anyone else's posts (if there were any then), I just thought the ret-con is ridiculous. It's convoluted and odd and above everything else I don't want Joss to mess around with established canon. Of course it makes no difference to me, since I don't buy this ret-con as canon, but it saddens me that in three years he's not been able to think of something *new*. What was it Andrew said about moving on? Joss could do with some of that.
Amy sneaking Warren away isn't omnicience it's opportunism taking advantage of Willow's arrogance, a weakness that's been pointed out repeatedly. It's like a theme.
Why wait until the last minute? Sorry, I'll shut up... I'm glad it works for you. I'm glad you find it interesting and satisfying. I just find it rather lame and pointless. I wish I didn't. Yes I like themes, yes I'm willing to forego logic for the sake of emotional payoff. But this time the theme is getting old and I can't see a payoff - unless Willow has to kill Warren. That'd salvage the story, even if it'd be going over old ground.
(I hate being negative. I'm like the Polly Anna of fandom - able to look on the positive side of *everything* - even AYW. I feel all out of sorts criticising the mighty Joss - but I just can't help it.)
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Yes but how exactly? Or did Willow kill him after all and Amy revived him?
Why wait until the last minute? It's infuriatingly vague
OK I inhaled. Up to the top of page 3 anyway. And now I’m completely baffled by everyone (not you personally) commenting to the effect that if Warren didn’t die he couldn’t have appeared as the First.
The first thing he says is that “Bored Now” were the “last two words of his human life.” How could he put it any more clearly? His human life ended there just as William’s did when Dru turned him in that alley. I mean I could understand it better if this had been on TV and people hadn’t caught that particular snippet of dialogue but it’s a comic, it’s sitting there on the page with a label saying “read me.”
“Do you know she had maybe a 4-second window after my skin came off before I died of shock alone?”
So in the context of his human life having ended what does Warren mean by this? Amy’s not that powerful but she is smart and a good improviser. It’s rather touching how impressed Warren is by this. Warren the animated corpse has more genuine affection for another person than human Warren ever managed, which makes his relationship with Amy a potential Jossverse classic in the vein of Spike’n’Dru, Faith and the mayor or Caleb/First!Buffy.
Uh topic. Amy wasn’t up to directly confronting Willow, she had to wait until Willow turned away but in the four seconds before shock shut down all its essential functions she managed to snatch Warren’s body away, magically preserve it and eventually (since he was barely walking by KiM) nurse it back to the level of zombie function it currently has.
It’s all there in the text but, as I think TDH said once and I’m slowly learning, comics use an extremely concentrated form of storytelling and every line counts. There’s a James Marsters quote to the effect that with Buffy you need to sit forward on the couch to follow it. That’s something I loved about the show and am loving about the comics too. Sure so far it’s frequently taken the form of an audience wrong-footing exuberance but I think Joss has earned the right to take back his story and I can sense the depths lurking beneath those pyrotechnics. Delusional maybe but happy about it.