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elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2007-05-16 08:42 pm
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::eyeroll::

Spoilery preview of S8 issue 4.

Dude! Amy *saved* Warren before Willow killed him? WTF? Apart from all the enormous issues it raises (what about The First? How did Willow not *notice* that she wasn't the one killing him (/making him disappear)? What about Willow's whole S7 arc? What does Amy see in a misogynist pig who kills girls for fun? Etc. etc.), then there is this (which has been bothering me since Amy was first revealed): How come they didn't get out of Sunnydale before the apocalypse? Even ordinary people could feel that something bad was coming and left town, so surely a smart girl like Amy would get the hell out before the whole place collapsed?

It doesn't make sense!!!! Did working on Wonder Woman break something vital in Joss' brain? I know he never cared all that much about 'how things worked', bending the rules so he could get to the emotional part, but this is... *throws hands up*

Thank the powers above that this never made it to the screen!

[identity profile] owenthurman.livejournal.com 2007-05-16 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
whisked-away-at-the-last-minute plot for Warren could've been clever

What would be wrong with him being raised by Amy in some kind of nasty side effects reanimation spell? That way he would have been dead, Amy would be established as much stronger, there wouldn't be any logic trouble with where Warren really was and what Amy was doing during The Killer In Me.

There would still be the problem of what Amy sees in Warren.

But I think Joss just doesn't care about world logic or consistency of story anymore. Why should he put any effort into it?

[identity profile] thedeadlyhook.livejournal.com 2007-05-16 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
What would be wrong with him being raised by Amy in some kind of nasty side effects reanimation spell?

Nothing would've been wrong with it; I agree it would've made for a much stronger story for all the reasons you mention. If Amy were also established as able to resurrect the dead, it would make slightly more sense for her to have a zombie army as well (and suggest the possibility that this is also something Willow could do, if she wanted to).

And on further thought, the Amy-whisking-away plotline doesn't even mesh with S6, never mind S7, as didn't the entire plot of "Villains" revolved around Warren desperately searching for someone, anyone to help him escape from Willow, and finding nobody other than Rack? So... Amy figured that it would be better revenge on Willow to let her THINK she'd succeeded in killing Warren than to frustrate her by taking her target away from her? Huh?

[identity profile] owenthurman.livejournal.com 2007-05-17 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
Trust is very important to me. When a writer abuses my trust by not even trying to create a consistent plot and characters it makes me disinclined to buy comic books from him. (And just ask me what I think about politicians!)

[identity profile] thedeadlyhook.livejournal.com 2007-05-17 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
I know exactly what you mean. Drama is built on trust - you have to be able to take things seriously, to believe not only in the events, but that the characters believe them and take them seriously. The moment that trust is broken, when it feels like the author is just playing with you, not respecting your intelligence, that dramatic tension just goes. And yeah, ditto for politics.

[identity profile] zanthinegirl.livejournal.com 2007-05-17 06:06 am (UTC)(link)
What would be wrong with him being raised by Amy in some kind of nasty side effects reanimation spell? That way he would have been dead, Amy would be established as much stronger, there wouldn't be any logic trouble with where Warren really was and what Amy was doing during The Killer In Me.

You know, that actually makes as much (possibly more!) sense than anything I've heard yet on this subject!