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elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2024-04-13 07:45 pm

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The End of Star Wars and the Rise of Dune; Archetypal Analysis

^This is really good. (With thanks to Proton <3) Is it depressing that the story we need right now is basically without the possibility of a happy ending (except in the far far distant future)? Yes. But also it feels necessary. The world is bleak. I want hope, but I also want realism. Naive fairy tales with a simplistic happily ever after are inadequate.

Also, the video digs into how the different 'verses look at the causes of evil, which is v interesting.

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Life has just... vanished recently. Entirely forgot to post a link when I posted this:

Chapter 20: Life is Just This (Almost 9k. /o\)

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And hey, here is a fabulous trio of stories. I had read the first one, but not the two follow ups.

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ETA: I also meant to say that we have started to watch Stacey Solomon: Sort Your Life Out, which is perfect TV for when you need something not complicated, but nice and uplifting. It's also caused us to finally clear stuff out that we have been meaning to do for YEARS (and which is now more possible with two children moved out for good), so that is a positive.

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ETA2: Petition for those in the UK:

Create a Palestinian Family Visa Scheme for Palestinian people affected by war
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[personal profile] sea_thoughts 2024-04-13 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I finally saw Dune 2 a couple of weeks ago.
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[personal profile] sea_thoughts 2024-04-13 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought Chalamet made a very good desert vampire. Austin Butler was amazing, I hope he gets some recognition after being overlooked when it came to Elvis.
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[personal profile] sea_thoughts 2024-04-14 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
He is basically Undead now after drinking that water! Yes, his body came back to life, but he's not really Paul anymore, is he? Everything that made him Paul Atreides is gone...

At least, that's the impression I had from watching the film.
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[personal profile] sea_thoughts 2024-04-20 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I also think that song Handlebars by Flobot would suit this story as well.
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[personal profile] sea_thoughts 2024-04-20 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
His reach is global, his tower secure, his cause is noble, his power is pure...

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[personal profile] kerk_hiraeth 2024-04-13 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Read the first Dune book sometime in the late seventies; maybe early eighties.

Never been tempted to go back, and always believed that, since all the stuff that made it interesting at all was in the notes (that were probably far less prevalent than they actually were) I wasn't interested in any onscreen versions.

I'm actually of the opinion that Frank Herbert was over-rated.

Seems perfect for modern cinema audience therefore.

Realised somewhere between the first news of episode eight of STar Wars and the release of episode nine that, despite finding a great deal to like in Star Wars, I had never been a true fan.

There's only three of the movies, and none of the other material, that I am interested in rewatching regularly, or at all really, Rogue One; The Force Awakens and The Empire Strikes Back.

I recall really wanted to see Luke tempted to the dark side; then saved by Leia. I had no interest in Vader being redeemed and believe to this day his and the 'pinhead incel' as I overheard some girl calling whatsisname from the final trilogy 'redemption arcs were horrible and undeserved. Not too dissimilar to the reasons why I hated the fact that Buffy fans, or too many of them, were obsessed with which serial killing handsome vampire she ended up with.

And then would demand Amy's death and forgive Willow at every turn.

Fave SW characters (not in order): Maz Kanata followed by Rey; Jyn Erso; Maze & Chirrut; K2SO; Chewbacca; Rose Tico; General Leia; Jar Jar; Finn; Poe... and I can't think of any others.

There's a wonderful Korean SF movie that I really have to send you one day. Hits everything mainstream Hollywood has been producing out of the park.

kerk

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[personal profile] kerk_hiraeth 2024-04-14 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Funny you should say that as I think The Lord of the Rings is over-rated too; difference being that, while Dune's best bits are in the addendums, The Lord of the Rings best bits are in the tales and the lore surrounding the 'quest'.

Someone once pointed out; they've passed away now, that the only true hero of the story is Sam; remember too little of Dune to know whether it had a 'Sam' but, and I say this not having seen an actual episode, Game of Thrones true hero is a Sam too; Samwell Tarly.

I'd argue there's also the ten year old Lady Mormont; Hodor and even Theon Greyjoy, but then I'd realise the true heros are the ones who lay their lives on the line; survive everything heaven & hell throws at them and then live in the purgatory of the rest of their lives in ordinariness, while the world slowly forgets the sacrifice and why it was needed.

Buffy had a Sam; as much as I didn't like him too well on the show, his name was Xander.

kerk
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[personal profile] kerk_hiraeth 2024-04-15 01:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Couple of 'typos' in there. I should probably have gone with 'the opposite is true of The Lord of the Rings...

Honestly hadn't thought of that but Martin's stories are much darker and much, much more violent than Tolkien's; and so much more grey morally; I have to had apparently as I haven't read the books either.

* I have to mention my point of dispute; not sure which group of fans with, in that it's only after the 'Battle with the Dead' that everything appears to get ~ I shall say absurd ~ so much utter ridiculousness in those last too episodes. I thought; with a lot more pre-knowledge than actual fans that Daenarys' insanity was much more obvious, and a lot of very smart characters were in denial of it, right from her first scenes. Bran's journey was much more of a journey; but while we may never know who Martin would actually have had sit on that damned ~ it a much more old-fashioned usage of the word ~ throne, the confusion over his arse being there is mine too.

* As an aside the idea of electing your king played a very prominent role in the downfall of Lithuanian / Polish Commonwealth as I recall.

As to Xander; you're right he's not like Samwell or Sam, but he does, kind of, represent that kind character in the Buffyverse; as does Cordelia really. Makes me remember too that, when she got the vision powers, she kind of picked up / put on the ring as Sam did. Xander & Cordelia are almost a mirror of each other, as Bran and Daenarys are in Game of Thrones; as The Fellowship & the Ring Wraiths are in Lord of the Rings.

kerk

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[personal profile] kazzy_cee 2024-04-14 07:52 am (UTC)(link)
That ‘meeting my wife’ story is just bizarre!