Feh.

OK, first of all? I'm staying. (See this comment.) Not that I was ever going to leave, even though running around friending people on GJ is fun. (But GJ is ugly. And has adverts. And everything just looks wrong.)

Aaaanyway, if you haven't already, please go join fandom_counts! (22000 members so far. Spread the news to the furthest corners of fandom, please!)

bookshop has a great post here about the fandom voice and what we can do.

liz_marcs still has lots of links.

Also lots and lots of info in this post by catrinella.

Re. Warriors for Innocence please read this post (warning: bad for blood pressure!)

Oh and there's a list of deleted comms and journals here.

Apparently Six Apart have in the past shown themselves to be 'socially backward'. Well I guess they really went and proved it this time. LJ however has usually been good at PR and such. Woe.


*takes deep breath*

OK, now I'm going to go concentrate on my children and such RL concerns, and when I have spare time will polish off some schmoopy Spuffy and a few Spike: Asylum ficlets.

Feh.

OK, first of all? I'm staying. (See this comment.) Not that I was ever going to leave, even though running around friending people on GJ is fun. (But GJ is ugly. And has adverts. And everything just looks wrong.)

Aaaanyway, if you haven't already, please go join fandom_counts! (22000 members so far. Spread the news to the furthest corners of fandom, please!)

bookshop has a great post here about the fandom voice and what we can do.

liz_marcs still has lots of links.

Also lots and lots of info in this post by catrinella.

Re. Warriors for Innocence please read this post (warning: bad for blood pressure!)

Oh and there's a list of deleted comms and journals here.

Apparently Six Apart have in the past shown themselves to be 'socially backward'. Well I guess they really went and proved it this time. LJ however has usually been good at PR and such. Woe.


*takes deep breath*

OK, now I'm going to go concentrate on my children and such RL concerns, and when I have spare time will polish off some schmoopy Spuffy and a few Spike: Asylum ficlets.

Finally!

... We never intended this policy to cause the removal of journals that were have perfectly valid discussions about literature, law or culture. We never intended the policies to take down journals or communities clearly opposed to illegal activities but clearly we did. We love our members of fandom and respect their role in our community. We made a mistake and now we are going to try to fix it.

That is it. We have always been strong supporters of free speech and at the same time we believe deeply that children deserve special protections as well as the victims of violence and hate. We tried to implement a policy that walk that line and we did it poorly, we are all sorry. One could say that no matter what we did we would either be accused of opposing free speech or endangering children but I am sure we should and could have done this much better. I hope you can forgive us and we can regain your trust.

And they *will* look into all the suspended journals and re-instate as applicable. It's not perfect, but it might just be acceptable.

And now I can finally get on with my day!

ETA: st_salieri has an exellent post addressing the main problems.

ETA2: You know, I'm surprised at how badly LJ has handled this. But I'm not actually surprised at what happened. I'm sure many of you remember that incident involving the FBI? We're being watched, it's that simple. Sad, but true.

Finally!

... We never intended this policy to cause the removal of journals that were have perfectly valid discussions about literature, law or culture. We never intended the policies to take down journals or communities clearly opposed to illegal activities but clearly we did. We love our members of fandom and respect their role in our community. We made a mistake and now we are going to try to fix it.

That is it. We have always been strong supporters of free speech and at the same time we believe deeply that children deserve special protections as well as the victims of violence and hate. We tried to implement a policy that walk that line and we did it poorly, we are all sorry. One could say that no matter what we did we would either be accused of opposing free speech or endangering children but I am sure we should and could have done this much better. I hope you can forgive us and we can regain your trust.

And they *will* look into all the suspended journals and re-instate as applicable. It's not perfect, but it might just be acceptable.

And now I can finally get on with my day!

ETA: st_salieri has an exellent post addressing the main problems.

ETA2: You know, I'm surprised at how badly LJ has handled this. But I'm not actually surprised at what happened. I'm sure many of you remember that incident involving the FBI? We're being watched, it's that simple. Sad, but true.

Why the soulquest *couldn't* have been a ret-con.

Look! A fandom post! I've been meaning to write this down for ages, and suddenly remembered today. And then thought - why not? It is after all why I'm here.

Also, if I remember correctly, I have stormwreath to thank for this flawless proof.


So, let's look at some dates. 'Seeing Red' aired on 7th of May 2002 and tried to make us think Spike blamed the chip for everything:

SPIKE: It's the chip! Steel and wires and silicon. It won't let me be a monster. And I can't be a man. I'm nothing.

'Villains' aired on the 14th of May and it was this episode that more than any other tried to make people believe that Spike wanted the chip out:

SPIKE: Thinks she's better than me. Ever since I got this bleeding chip in my head, things ain't been right. Everything's gone to hell.
DEMON: And you want to return to your former self.
SPIKE: Yeah.

So, did they change the outcome at the last minute? Or is it just that the execution of their mislead was rather clumsy? Well, lets look at the script for 'Grave', dated 27th March 2002 - that is MORE THAN A MONTH before SR aired:

SPIKE (cont'd)
So, give me what I want. Make me
what I was... so Buffy can get what
she deserves.

VOICE
Very well.

A GNARLY DEMON HAND reaches out to Spike's bare chest

VOICE (cont'd)
Your soul is returned to you.

As the hand touches him, Spike throws his head back and SCREAMS in agony...


QED (Unless of course Joss can travel in time...)

Why the soulquest *couldn't* have been a ret-con.

Look! A fandom post! I've been meaning to write this down for ages, and suddenly remembered today. And then thought - why not? It is after all why I'm here.

Also, if I remember correctly, I have stormwreath to thank for this flawless proof.


So, let's look at some dates. 'Seeing Red' aired on 7th of May 2002 and tried to make us think Spike blamed the chip for everything:

SPIKE: It's the chip! Steel and wires and silicon. It won't let me be a monster. And I can't be a man. I'm nothing.

'Villains' aired on the 14th of May and it was this episode that more than any other tried to make people believe that Spike wanted the chip out:

SPIKE: Thinks she's better than me. Ever since I got this bleeding chip in my head, things ain't been right. Everything's gone to hell.
DEMON: And you want to return to your former self.
SPIKE: Yeah.

So, did they change the outcome at the last minute? Or is it just that the execution of their mislead was rather clumsy? Well, lets look at the script for 'Grave', dated 27th March 2002 - that is MORE THAN A MONTH before SR aired:

SPIKE (cont'd)
So, give me what I want. Make me
what I was... so Buffy can get what
she deserves.

VOICE
Very well.

A GNARLY DEMON HAND reaches out to Spike's bare chest

VOICE (cont'd)
Your soul is returned to you.

As the hand touches him, Spike throws his head back and SCREAMS in agony...


QED (Unless of course Joss can travel in time...)

Because fandom is made of win!

beer_good_foamy objects! To, like, everything! Go read.

tkp gathers together lots and lots of pictures dealing with the recent woes. Very, very funny - esp. love the 'Hot Fuzz' one! Where would fandom be without Photoshop?

Because fandom is made of win!

beer_good_foamy objects! To, like, everything! Go read.

tkp gathers together lots and lots of pictures dealing with the recent woes. Very, very funny - esp. love the 'Hot Fuzz' one! Where would fandom be without Photoshop?