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elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2006-12-11 11:48 am

Them comics...

OK, I've been pondering the whole comic book thing and reading various posts, and here's my two cents (or should that be pennies?).

You know what my first thought was upon seeing the outfit? 'Thank goodness she's finally wearing something approximating armour!' Oh it's unflattering, and the pockets are *ugly*, but I'm thinking that if the new Slayers had been wearing something similar in Chosen more of them would have made it out alive. And since Buffy wants to keep them alive, and has to set a good example, she's wearing the stuff too! The gun is obviously not a gun, but some sort of 'forcefield zapper'. *shrug* She's on a mission, and I doubt she'll be wearing only one outfit through the whole season. The Riley-ness of it is unappealing, but - as [livejournal.com profile] shapinglight put it - don't judge a book by a few pages. Just as you shouldn't judge BtVS by f.ex. 'Bad Eggs' alone!

Now about the ret-con... I like it. Although it's going to co-exist with the previous canon version in my head. Let me try to explain:

1) Buffy dating The Immortal. I like The Immortal - or rather I like all the possibilites he opens up. He's a blank canvas characterwise, and writers have done incredible things with him (he's probably my favourite thing about 'Three Deep' and [livejournal.com profile] treacle_a's version is also *amazing*!) I like the fact that Buffy is having fun in her new life, and that Mr Perfect is her rebound guy.

2) There are 3 'Buffies', and one of the extras is dating The Immortal. First of all, this is a fantabulous gift for Spuffies everywhere. The giant big obstacle in the path of true love has been poofed away! Woohoo! Second, it makes TGiQ *so* much better. I always liked it, but Andrew (although entertaining) always felt a little off. But if the whole thing is *his* idea, and *his* set-up, his behaviour makes more than perfect sense: He's been allowed to write his own Buffy fanfic, and my goodness but he grasps the chance! It explains why Buffy is never there, but more importantly it shifts the focus back on Spike and Angel, rather than shipping wars, and possible anger at Buffy. So yeah, this is going to be canon to me as far as that episode is concerned! :)

The other thing of course, is that people have spent what seems like forever having an Immortal shaped problem in their fic (unless they choose to develop him, as mentioned above). I don't think I've ever come across a fic that dared ret-con him away like that. And yet Joss just did it, and I'm sure there are many, many writers muttering to themselves 'Why didn't I do that?' The answer of course being that people would think it rather ridiculous! Heh.

I think that was all - in any case I have to run. Oh - I also meant to say that as far as I can tell, S8 will take place concurrently with S5 of AtS, so in a way it's only filling out all the blanks between the snippets we've been told. I think I would like to know more. Some people have said that they want to know what happened after NFA. Not me. I am immensely grateful that Joss won't be touching the perfect ending, and if he ever does I might have to give it a miss. I just don't want to know.

ETA: The comics are like canon back-up! At least that's my take. :)



For anyone who might have missed it - I posted the Epilogue to Illyria, Alone on Friday.

[identity profile] lusciousxander.livejournal.com 2006-12-11 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
The most B/X ep is 'Beer Bad' for goodness sake!

I saw more tension in other eps. I think the most B/X ep is Phases, or at least that moment where he holds her and she gives him that look. I saw sparkles there. Also at the end of Inca The Mummy:

Buffy: I remember how I felt when I heard the prophecy that I was gonna
die. I wasn't exactly obsessed with doing the right thing.

Xander: Yeah, but you did. You gave up your life.

Buffy: I had you to bring me back.

They give each other thin smiles for a moment before continuing on.

There's also the sexy dance, which was, well, sexy. :)

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The closest they got to it in S7 was the stares she and him shared in the kitchen during End of Days.

Anyway, I don't think it'll happen. I like them better as brother and sister who play father and mother to Dawn. Makes them far more special, I especially love the hand squeeze they gave each other in Chosen. If it was more than a brother/sister thing, it'll lose its special-ness.

Also most of fandom would probably hate him if he went for B/X, as well as it making not one bit of sense, characterwise.

I don't like the idea of Buffy and Xander together. I love it when a guy and girl become friends and be just that: friends. Angel and Cordy lost their appeal when they fell in love IMO. Xander and Buffy have a special relationship and it'll be ruined if they got together.

As for it not making sense... maybe right now. But if Joss wrote a good arc about it, I guess it'll make sense. Nothing's impossible in my book. Spuffy didn't make sense during S2, but then we had a great arc about Spike changing and devoting his unlife for Buffy... and eventually it made sense.

[identity profile] ibmiller.livejournal.com 2006-12-12 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
But Angel and Cordy were so cute together! And You're Welcome was so sad!