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Them comics...
OK, I've been pondering the whole comic book thing and reading various posts, and here's my two cents (or should that be pennies?).
You know what my first thought was upon seeing the outfit? 'Thank goodness she's finally wearing something approximating armour!' Oh it's unflattering, and the pockets are *ugly*, but I'm thinking that if the new Slayers had been wearing something similar in Chosen more of them would have made it out alive. And since Buffy wants to keep them alive, and has to set a good example, she's wearing the stuff too! The gun is obviously not a gun, but some sort of 'forcefield zapper'. *shrug* She's on a mission, and I doubt she'll be wearing only one outfit through the whole season. The Riley-ness of it is unappealing, but - as![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
shapinglight put it - don't judge a book by a few pages. Just as you shouldn't judge BtVS by f.ex. 'Bad Eggs' alone!
Now about the ret-con... I like it. Although it's going to co-exist with the previous canon version in my head. Let me try to explain:
1) Buffy dating The Immortal. I like The Immortal - or rather I like all the possibilites he opens up. He's a blank canvas characterwise, and writers have done incredible things with him (he's probably my favourite thing about 'Three Deep' andtreacle_a's version is also *amazing*!) I like the fact that Buffy is having fun in her new life, and that Mr Perfect is her rebound guy.
2) There are 3 'Buffies', and one of the extras is dating The Immortal. First of all, this is a fantabulous gift for Spuffies everywhere. The giant big obstacle in the path of true love has been poofed away! Woohoo! Second, it makes TGiQ *so* much better. I always liked it, but Andrew (although entertaining) always felt a little off. But if the whole thing is *his* idea, and *his* set-up, his behaviour makes more than perfect sense: He's been allowed to write his own Buffy fanfic, and my goodness but he grasps the chance! It explains why Buffy is never there, but more importantly it shifts the focus back on Spike and Angel, rather than shipping wars, and possible anger at Buffy. So yeah, this is going to be canon to me as far as that episode is concerned! :)
The other thing of course, is that people have spent what seems like forever having an Immortal shaped problem in their fic (unless they choose to develop him, as mentioned above). I don't think I've ever come across a fic that dared ret-con him away like that. And yet Joss just did it, and I'm sure there are many, many writers muttering to themselves 'Why didn't I do that?' The answer of course being that people would think it rather ridiculous! Heh.
I think that was all - in any case I have to run. Oh - I also meant to say that as far as I can tell, S8 will take place concurrently with S5 of AtS, so in a way it's only filling out all the blanks between the snippets we've been told. I think I would like to know more. Some people have said that they want to know what happened after NFA. Not me. I am immensely grateful that Joss won't be touching the perfect ending, and if he ever does I might have to give it a miss. I just don't want to know.
ETA: The comics are like canon back-up! At least that's my take. :)
For anyone who might have missed it - I posted the Epilogue to Illyria, Alone on Friday.
You know what my first thought was upon seeing the outfit? 'Thank goodness she's finally wearing something approximating armour!' Oh it's unflattering, and the pockets are *ugly*, but I'm thinking that if the new Slayers had been wearing something similar in Chosen more of them would have made it out alive. And since Buffy wants to keep them alive, and has to set a good example, she's wearing the stuff too! The gun is obviously not a gun, but some sort of 'forcefield zapper'. *shrug* She's on a mission, and I doubt she'll be wearing only one outfit through the whole season. The Riley-ness of it is unappealing, but - as
shapinglight put it - don't judge a book by a few pages. Just as you shouldn't judge BtVS by f.ex. 'Bad Eggs' alone!Now about the ret-con... I like it. Although it's going to co-exist with the previous canon version in my head. Let me try to explain:
1) Buffy dating The Immortal. I like The Immortal - or rather I like all the possibilites he opens up. He's a blank canvas characterwise, and writers have done incredible things with him (he's probably my favourite thing about 'Three Deep' and
treacle_a's version is also *amazing*!) I like the fact that Buffy is having fun in her new life, and that Mr Perfect is her rebound guy. 2) There are 3 'Buffies', and one of the extras is dating The Immortal. First of all, this is a fantabulous gift for Spuffies everywhere. The giant big obstacle in the path of true love has been poofed away! Woohoo! Second, it makes TGiQ *so* much better. I always liked it, but Andrew (although entertaining) always felt a little off. But if the whole thing is *his* idea, and *his* set-up, his behaviour makes more than perfect sense: He's been allowed to write his own Buffy fanfic, and my goodness but he grasps the chance! It explains why Buffy is never there, but more importantly it shifts the focus back on Spike and Angel, rather than shipping wars, and possible anger at Buffy. So yeah, this is going to be canon to me as far as that episode is concerned! :)
The other thing of course, is that people have spent what seems like forever having an Immortal shaped problem in their fic (unless they choose to develop him, as mentioned above). I don't think I've ever come across a fic that dared ret-con him away like that. And yet Joss just did it, and I'm sure there are many, many writers muttering to themselves 'Why didn't I do that?' The answer of course being that people would think it rather ridiculous! Heh.
I think that was all - in any case I have to run. Oh - I also meant to say that as far as I can tell, S8 will take place concurrently with S5 of AtS, so in a way it's only filling out all the blanks between the snippets we've been told. I think I would like to know more. Some people have said that they want to know what happened after NFA. Not me. I am immensely grateful that Joss won't be touching the perfect ending, and if he ever does I might have to give it a miss. I just don't want to know.
ETA: The comics are like canon back-up! At least that's my take. :)
For anyone who might have missed it - I posted the Epilogue to Illyria, Alone on Friday.
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I generally agree with what everyone's saying about the comic. I don't think I'm going to go buy them, because I like the canon from the shows and not the supplemental stuff. Everything that I've seen about the comics doesn't really make me jump up and down...and I'm not really pleased that Joss just magicked away the whole Buffy's-dating-the-Immortal-in-Angel-s5 debacle. I don't think it was necessarily in character for Buffy (if it was in fact the REAL Buffy) to date him but I rationalize it to myself by saying she's either crazy from grief over Spike or that she's using him for his resources. I like living in this fantasy world.
I think if the comics ended up as B/X that would cheapen everything that the show worked towards. I can see that Xander is safe and comfortable, and has stood by her for so long unwaveringly (except that one time, and the times he hated Angel and Spike...) but I just can't see them together. If anyone, I agree with the person who said Xander/Dawn would get together. It seems like a lot of fic has Xander and Dawn getting together, and I can see that a lot easier than B/X.
Okay, now I'm rambling. I go now. =)
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Prettiest Christmas banner ever! :) Made by the delightful
I like living in this fantasy world.
Fantasty worlds are good! If you'd like a different take, I wrote some drabbles: Snapshots of Buffy during AtS S5.
If anyone, I agree with the person who said Xander/Dawn would get together.
::holds up hand:: And yes to B/X cheapening the show! Just ain't gonna happen.
And rambling is good - it's pretty much all I do here on LJ. :)
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How's everything in your neck of the woods?
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Thank you! :) (There's plenty more if you're ever in the mood - ::waves vaguely towards links list and website:: *g*)
How's everything in your neck of the woods?
Rushed. Late. But OK.
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I disagree that the comics are supplemental. From everything Joss has said, the comics are just as important as the show, and he is writing them because he loves the characters and has new stories which make him want to continue the series. It's not a reason to continue to make merchandise for an already finished franchise.