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DoWntime has come through again, and how:

BIT OF ADRENALINE, DASH OF OUTRAGE: Our Thoughts on “The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos” and Series 11 Wrap-Up — Part 1/2

BIT OF ADRENALINE, DASH OF OUTRAGE: Our Thoughts on “The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos” and Series 11 Wrap-Up — Part 2/2

(They go through EVERYTHING: the characters, the villain, Themes and Motifs, Diversity and Representation, Marketing, Politics, Ethics and Aesthetics and The Discourse Problem. If you want to know what I think, just read those posts.)

Alternatively, here is the shorter version, as [personal profile] propergoffick put it here (spoilers in post!):

'And you get this Doctor who you know in your soul votes Lib Dem, recycles, and gets properly annoyed about what Nigel Farage said in the paper the other day, but doesn't do anything about huge systemic problems. She fixes the very specific problem in front of her and leaves well alone. J. K. Rowling in space and time.'

ETA: I *want* Thirteen to be wonderful and amazing and her companions to have fabulous depth and for there to be story-arcs and something to sink my teeth into. But there isn't.


In other news, I have almost finished S22 and may write up some thoughts on that! Six is my darling and I luff him to pieces. ♥

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Date: 15 December 2018 07:44 pm (UTC)
auroracloud: Thirteenth Doctor with green hills and the TARDIS behind her (Thirteen TARDIS)
From: [personal profile] auroracloud
I got very little Six viewing into my Twitch marathon - The Mark of the Rani was the only one I was able to watch in full, though I did watch enough of The Two Doctors to get my Season 6B foundations (important for a Jamie fan). But I love his Big Finish audios, so I'm definitely going to return to the TV era. And just got to love someone who dresses in ALL THE COLOURS. (I need to make room for the Six icon I've got saved...)

Re: Thirteen era, I'm so mixed because on the other hand I enjoy the characters and enjoyed most of the episodes and I love what the actors do, and I was super hopeful early on and willing to forgive some flaws; but when I look at the season on a whole, it is disappointing, because you just don't get the sense that the Doctor is doing anything or that she stands for anything, and the lack of character development for Yaz is frustrating, and I just want something more powerful. I want more of the Doctor who forged her own sonic screwdriver out of scraps, but instead we just get the one who told Karl off for tripping up Tim Shaw. And the finale was so underwhelming. I don't need the universe to be in danger in every finale, and I'm fine with not needing several rewatches and a spreadsheet to keep track of what went on in the season, but I would still like more than I got. The episode just didn't do anything, and even forgot to follow through with its interesting elements.

I still felt good while watching the episode and after it. But literally minutes after I'd watched it, I was buying Classic Who DVDs online, and not thinking about the episode anymore. That's not how it's supposed to go.

One of the podcasts I listen to - I think Verity! - summed it up well by saying that S11 was playing too safe. And that it feels like it's got training wheels on.

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Date: 15 December 2018 08:29 pm (UTC)
auroracloud: Nyssa of Traken in a white top, looking away from camera (Default)
From: [personal profile] auroracloud
Oh, and I wanted to add, I'm glad those posts you linked to addressed the lack of LGBT representation. That has seriously frustrated me.

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Date: 16 December 2018 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] lyricwritesprose
Strictly speaking, S5 had River Song, who is pan. But that wasn't very firmly established at the time; it was mostly hints in the library episodes and creator's opinion. It took until "The Husbands of River Song" before we had explicit onscreen confirmation of the fact.

And you could take that as a sign of creator growth, too, I guess; Moffat learned that you can't just headcanon a character to be bi or pan or whatever, you have to make sure that someone else knows.

I do wonder if Chibnall intended Yaz to be bi, but we know so little about her that it's impossible to tell.

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Date: 18 December 2018 08:47 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] unfeathered
But literally minutes after I'd watched it, I was buying Classic Who DVDs online, and not thinking about the episode anymore.

Yeah, I have to admit, after that my son and I realised we really wanted to watch some *real* DW so we continued with our S4 rewatch and hell, even the Sontaran two-parter, which I've never rated particularly highly, felt amazing after this, and the Library two-parter felt incredible! I know I've criticised both RTD and Moffatt for plot holes and over-dramatising things, but hell, at least they gave me something to get excited about!

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