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I'll say it anyway. Winifred Burkle. Go.
Serendipity is a funny thing...
This whole Joss mess has come along exactly as I decided to finally delve back into the AtS 'verse and finish a WIP I abandoned years ago. (As it happens, it's the only fic I've ever properly planned out, so I found my extensive notes and actually know where the story is going!)
Now, before beginning to write I figured I should probably watch a few episodes, just to make sure I had their voices right in my head; so I watched A Hole in the World and Shells. And it's a fascinating exercise in doublethink (doubleview?).
Like, I love the 'verse. I love the characters. I love the story. I will always be grateful to Joss & co for creating this world.
But there is also the fact that (the very very special) Fred has SIX men standing around her bedside. All of them going to go out and try to SAVE her. (See subject line...)
As you know, the only other women (still standing) in the extended cast are Harmony (who is delightful, but mostly comic relief) and Eve, who is very powerful yet lost all agency the second she lost her boyfriend. ETA: Oh and there's Nina too. I like Nina. It's sad her role never extends beyond Being The Girlfriend.
The interesting thing is that the same week my girls decided to watch [the new movie version of] Les Mis.
And it was exactly the same thing:
- Men make things happen.
- Women have things happen to them.
This is why Buffy (and Wonder Woman, Rey, et al) are so special. They make things happen.
(Possibly more musings later, but this is a pretty well-trodden path, and I'm preaching to the choir...)
Also I'm realising this is probably a pretty awful way to try to get people to read my 'Spike & Angel & Illyria go on an epic quest to undo the power of W&H' story, as it's rather male-centric. AH WELL. It's not like LJ is teeming with people reading AtS fic anymore. Although I should probably point out that there's a good deal of Buffy & her Slayer army in it too...
For those who want to try (and the lovely handful which read the first few chapters back in 2013 when I started posting and might want to have another look), you can find the fic here (well, the first 7 chapters):
Divided Destiny
More chapters coming soon! :D (*crickets*)
This whole Joss mess has come along exactly as I decided to finally delve back into the AtS 'verse and finish a WIP I abandoned years ago. (As it happens, it's the only fic I've ever properly planned out, so I found my extensive notes and actually know where the story is going!)
Now, before beginning to write I figured I should probably watch a few episodes, just to make sure I had their voices right in my head; so I watched A Hole in the World and Shells. And it's a fascinating exercise in doublethink (doubleview?).
Like, I love the 'verse. I love the characters. I love the story. I will always be grateful to Joss & co for creating this world.
But there is also the fact that (the very very special) Fred has SIX men standing around her bedside. All of them going to go out and try to SAVE her. (See subject line...)
As you know, the only other women (still standing) in the extended cast are Harmony (who is delightful, but mostly comic relief) and Eve, who is very powerful yet lost all agency the second she lost her boyfriend. ETA: Oh and there's Nina too. I like Nina. It's sad her role never extends beyond Being The Girlfriend.
The interesting thing is that the same week my girls decided to watch [the new movie version of] Les Mis.
And it was exactly the same thing:
- Men make things happen.
- Women have things happen to them.
This is why Buffy (and Wonder Woman, Rey, et al) are so special. They make things happen.
(Possibly more musings later, but this is a pretty well-trodden path, and I'm preaching to the choir...)
Also I'm realising this is probably a pretty awful way to try to get people to read my 'Spike & Angel & Illyria go on an epic quest to undo the power of W&H' story, as it's rather male-centric. AH WELL. It's not like LJ is teeming with people reading AtS fic anymore. Although I should probably point out that there's a good deal of Buffy & her Slayer army in it too...
For those who want to try (and the lovely handful which read the first few chapters back in 2013 when I started posting and might want to have another look), you can find the fic here (well, the first 7 chapters):
Divided Destiny
More chapters coming soon! :D (*crickets*)
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Uh... Catholicism? No, you're right, it sucks that Valejan gets a second chance at life and she doesn't. Although given the crapsack world that Les Mis shows us, is that such a bad thing? *lol*
It's very much of its time, so I'm not ragging on it, more pointing out how little has changed. :(
Yeah, so much of our culture is still in thrall to the tropes presented in Les Mis.
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Heeee! *is Catholic, it's funny because it's true*
No, you're right, it sucks that Valejan gets a second chance at life and she doesn't. Although given the crapsack world that Les Mis shows us, is that such a bad thing? *lol*
'Life is pain, highness. Anyone who says differently is selling something.'
Yeah, so much of our culture is still in thrall to the tropes presented in Les Mis.
I don't think Les Mis invented them. And they are good tropes, in that they are very affecting. (This is one of my favourite things ever.)
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Haha, phew!
'Life is pain, highness. Anyone who says differently is selling something.'
Ugh, how dare you use "The Princess Bride" quotes against me? That's my job!
I don't think Les Mis invented them.
Oh no, I didn't mean that. I just meant that Les Mis is a good example of using them correctly but also a very famous example. And because it's so affecting, people end up copying it (often badly).
This is one of my favourite things ever
Aww, that's so sweet. I choked up so badly at the end. My favourite Les Mis video has an entire thread saying "I never cried in the cinema AND THEN THIS HAPPENED"
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:D
Ugh, how dare you use "The Princess Bride" quotes against me? That's my job!
Respect your elders.
Oh no, I didn't mean that. I just meant that Les Mis is a good example of using them correctly but also a very famous example. And because it's so affecting, people end up copying it (often badly).
Yeah, figured as much. (It was late and I was tired...)
Aww, that's so sweet. I choked up so badly at the end. My favourite Les Mis video has an entire thread saying "I never cried in the cinema AND THEN THIS HAPPENED"
It does what it does VERY VERY WELL. <3