I think Mark might just have redeemed himself...

[elisi]

- Angel: SHUT THE FUCK UP. I am so irritated by you and your constant need for melodrama. First, you don’t want Buffy around. Then you want to help her. Then you don’t want to live. And now you won’t stick around to say goodbye because it’ll be “too painful.” Maybe it’s so painful because you won’t make up your goddamn mind. Can you even imagine the pain you are causing Buffy with this whole back-and-forth routine? No? SO STOP IT.

[...]

- Oh, of course Angel is going to Brood in the fog and smoke before disappearing. Angel was never truly worried about saying goodbye. He just needed to brood one last time.

Will get to comments at SOME POINT, promise. Life: /o\ (Good busy, not bad busy. But - SO BUSY!)

Comments

[infinitewhale.livejournal.com]

:) The Bangel forced melodrama is one of the reasons I don't care a whole lot for S3, though I suppose it's consistent for Angel all the way until the up to TGIQ. I'd have liked it more if the show(s) ever acknowledged it outright.

[elisi]

Um... the show does nothing BUT send it up. OK, so it also panders to his melodrama a LOT, but from The Zeppo onwards the writers never miss an opportunity to poke fun at B/A or Angel himself. Don't have time to go into a lot of details, but off the top of my head:

'Billowy Coat King of Pain'

'What was the highlight out *our* relationship? When you broke up with me or when I killed you?'

'He wears lifts you know'

'I signalled her with my eyes'

And the whole scene in... Oh what's it called, where Cordy and Wesley act out Buffy & Angel's story...

TONS of stuff. Including, like, ALL of S5 of AtS when Spike's around, snarking.

[infinitewhale.livejournal.com]

I meant Angel's tendency to want to have it both ways. No! We cannot be! ... Are you my girl?

Bangel melodrama (the unforced variety) is mocked frequently by both shows and DC, but the sort of seedy Dru-esque vibe of it, I don't think was ever really addressed outside of the oblique stuff in TGIQ.

[elisi]

I meant Angel's tendency to want to have it both ways. No! We cannot be! ... Are you my girl?
Oh I see. Well, he's Angel. ;)

[petzipellepingo.livejournal.com]

And let us never forget st_salieri's infamous famous chart of Angel's love life ...

[elisi]

Love that thing forever. :)

[kita0610.livejournal.com]

Yuck.

[elisi]

Well, he's been loving B/A so far, so... *shrugs* He talks a lot, but doesn't actually say all that much. Mostly, I think his feelings are intense, but changeable. Plus, he's very much writing for an audience - it's all very 'OMG!' and he comes at everything from his own very specific POV. Not sure he has an analytical bone in his body.

[kita0610.livejournal.com]

The last bit is mostly what I meant. I neither enjoy nor appreciate "reviews" like that. And I gotta say wrt Buffy, especially from a dude. YMMV.

[elisi]

I've just been discussing this with others in my previous post - guy needs to widen his vocabulary. Or just get a thesaurus. His main reaction to ANY kind of feeling (i.e. reaction) is to caplock and/or swear and/or go on about his own history. And fair enough, it's his site, but... This is Buffy. It's pretty deep, and it's pretty clever. (People initially thought he was a teenager. He's actually mid-20s, but he does have that sort of easily digested style. Mind you, he makes his living off it, so it's probably carefully tailored.)

[lutamira]

I had seriously just ctrl + v'd this in preparation for posting it, but you've already done, so I'll just say here: this made me extremely happy as well.

[elisi]

His U-turns are... surprising and unpredictable.

[jeymien.livejournal.com]

I predict that Mark is going to love the return of Spike... and he'll especially love Spuffy - Something Blue is gonna knock his socks off.

[elisi]

Well he loves Faith, and ~morally complex characters~, so unless all that's just window dressing he ought to love Spike... Mind you, I've no idea how he measures stuff, so I'd not bet on it.

[cindergal.livejournal.com]

Oh, of course Angel is going to Brood in the fog and smoke before disappearing.

To be fair, he looked really cool while doing so. ;-)

[elisi]

It's a GORGEOUS scene. :)

(I love fandom nirvana, or zen, or wherever I am now. I just love everything and the rubbish stuff I can look at with fond nostalgia.)

[ever-neutral.livejournal.com]

lol, A+. idec.

[elisi]

:)

[kikimay]

LOL! Poor Angel, is a lovely drama queen!
*cuddles the brooding vampire*

[elisi]

Well he DOES need a whole show of his own, just to get enough space for brooding properly... ;)

[red-satin-doll.livejournal.com]

I don't read Mark because the couple of times I did I was bored, honestly (a video in which we watch Mark react to OMWF? Seriously? I prefer Noel Murray, thanks.)

But this bit does kind of redeem him for me because those are pretty much my thoughts about Angel S3. The Prom was crazy-making: dump Buffy in a sewer, of all places, but then show up again to dance with her at the prom? Of course this is the guy who came back from Hell and was clutching at the poor girl who was trying to gain some closure and move on. Poor Buffy, always saving his ass.