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I don't ship Spike/Cordelia, but...
Everyone should watch this vid:
Haunted by Astarte.
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sdwolfpup (when a vidder recs a vid, it's good to pay attention...) I downloaded out of curiosity. And OMG!!!1!!11!!!! I am *so* in awe of this vid! It's almost like a fic, in that it builds an AU where Spike and Cordelia are connected... oh, I don't know how to describe it, just go watch. It is so well made that it left me literally slack-jawed the first time - and still does now after many viewings. The cutting is so incredibly well done, that you'd swear they were in the same room! If you only watch one vid this year, let this be the one!
I was thinking about BtVS and Doctor Who and the differences between the shows. And why so many people loved the finale of Doctor Who, but not Buffy. There are many reasons for this, and I don't want to start arguments, but it occurred to me that DW is fundamentally shippy. (ETA: Only the latest series, I should add.) It's written as a shippy show. The writer even used the word 'soulmates' to describe The Doctor and Rose. On Buffy however that was never the case - Buffy was always about the individual character's journey. So Buffy and Spike completed their separate archs, whereas The Doctor and Rose completed their joint one. I think that makes sense...
Now one thing about Buffy is that very few people can see her happily settled with Mr. Ordinary. But re-watching 'Firefly' recently, I thought that this is actually very silly. Because one of the loveliest couples *ever* has to be Zoe and Wash. And right there we have a relationship between a 'warrior-woman' and a guy who's hopeless at fighting. But he has other talents and the marriage is obviously very strong. So I think that if Buffy found the right guy (who might very well be a shanshued Spike...) she could be very happy.
Haunted by Astarte.
Originally rec'd by
sdwolfpup (when a vidder recs a vid, it's good to pay attention...) I downloaded out of curiosity. And OMG!!!1!!11!!!! I am *so* in awe of this vid! It's almost like a fic, in that it builds an AU where Spike and Cordelia are connected... oh, I don't know how to describe it, just go watch. It is so well made that it left me literally slack-jawed the first time - and still does now after many viewings. The cutting is so incredibly well done, that you'd swear they were in the same room! If you only watch one vid this year, let this be the one!I was thinking about BtVS and Doctor Who and the differences between the shows. And why so many people loved the finale of Doctor Who, but not Buffy. There are many reasons for this, and I don't want to start arguments, but it occurred to me that DW is fundamentally shippy. (ETA: Only the latest series, I should add.) It's written as a shippy show. The writer even used the word 'soulmates' to describe The Doctor and Rose. On Buffy however that was never the case - Buffy was always about the individual character's journey. So Buffy and Spike completed their separate archs, whereas The Doctor and Rose completed their joint one. I think that makes sense...
Now one thing about Buffy is that very few people can see her happily settled with Mr. Ordinary. But re-watching 'Firefly' recently, I thought that this is actually very silly. Because one of the loveliest couples *ever* has to be Zoe and Wash. And right there we have a relationship between a 'warrior-woman' and a guy who's hopeless at fighting. But he has other talents and the marriage is obviously very strong. So I think that if Buffy found the right guy (who might very well be a shanshued Spike...) she could be very happy.
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To me the main part of liking the finale of Doctor Who is that for the most part, it made sense, it followed previously laid out continuity and all the characters were likeable. Minor chars got to have heroic moments, every main char showed a sign of growth from the moment they'd come on the show to their last scene. It wasn't just a set of 'iconic moments', like Joss himself described Chosen to have. Parting of the ways, most of all was a story, a great story about great characters. It finished a great season on a good note and left me with positive feelings about every single one of the characters in it.
Chosen on the other hand wasn't a story, it was a set of moments that Joss felt he had to put in, that were barely strung together. Half of the characters were people I'd lost any and all liking or even tollerance for. At the end of Chosen, there are just about two characters on Buffy that I still liked, and one of them died. (though he was luckily ressurected on Angel)
I didn't need a shippy ending, what I needed was for the characters to show signs of growth, signs of redeemability, signs that they were better people now than at the start of their journey. With Buffy, the only characters I truly had that feeling with at the end of Chosen, were Spike, Anya and Tara, and guess what, all three of those were death while the scoobs were cracking jokes at their graves.
I'm sorry to say this, but since the end of Chosen I haven't been able to read fanfic for the scoobs sake. I just don't like them no more. I can grow to like them in a Spike centric story, if the writers does them decently enough to make them likeable. But I no longer like the actual chars on screen. And Chosen is for a huge part responsible for that.
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(Although I found Spike's arch very satisfying. Devastating at the time, since I didn't know he was being resurrected, but powerful nevertheless.)