elisi: Edwin holding a tiny snowman (Slayer by seal3dwithakiss)
elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2005-09-14 12:38 pm

I don't ship Spike/Cordelia, but...

Everyone should watch this vid:

Haunted by Astarte.

Originally rec'd by [livejournal.com profile] sdwolfpup (when a vidder recs a vid, it's good to pay attention...) I downloaded out of curiosity. And OMG!!!1!!11!!!! I am *so* in awe of this vid! It's almost like a fic, in that it builds an AU where Spike and Cordelia are connected... oh, I don't know how to describe it, just go watch. It is so well made that it left me literally slack-jawed the first time - and still does now after many viewings. The cutting is so incredibly well done, that you'd swear they were in the same room! If you only watch one vid this year, let this be the one!


I was thinking about BtVS and Doctor Who and the differences between the shows. And why so many people loved the finale of Doctor Who, but not Buffy. There are many reasons for this, and I don't want to start arguments, but it occurred to me that DW is fundamentally shippy. (ETA: Only the latest series, I should add.) It's written as a shippy show. The writer even used the word 'soulmates' to describe The Doctor and Rose. On Buffy however that was never the case - Buffy was always about the individual character's journey. So Buffy and Spike completed their separate archs, whereas The Doctor and Rose completed their joint one. I think that makes sense...

Now one thing about Buffy is that very few people can see her happily settled with Mr. Ordinary. But re-watching 'Firefly' recently, I thought that this is actually very silly. Because one of the loveliest couples *ever* has to be Zoe and Wash. And right there we have a relationship between a 'warrior-woman' and a guy who's hopeless at fighting. But he has other talents and the marriage is obviously very strong. So I think that if Buffy found the right guy (who might very well be a shanshued Spike...) she could be very happy.

[identity profile] frimfram.livejournal.com 2005-09-14 01:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Just downloading that video now with great excitement- I love the idea of Spike/Cordy, though actually I don't think I've ever read any. As far as I can think, they never actually shared screentime except for those few seconds in 'You're Welcome', did they? Tragic waste of shippy potential.

I'm thinking of writing some Cordy/Angel at the moment. They are so agonisingly, beautifully doomed. I need to hunt down more Cordy-centric writing.

[identity profile] frimfram.livejournal.com 2005-09-14 01:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I've just watched, and wow - that really is ingenious cutting. And there's so much motion and colour, it's beautiful. Sigh, what might have been :)

really like Angel/Cordy, partly because I think she 'got' him in a way that Buffy never really did (and there we go with the Spike parallels again!)

Heh, oh yes. The thing is I'd been itching to write something noir-ish, so I wanted to set it in S1 or early S2, but they have such a different vibe between them then, it's very loving and supportive but not in the least bit romantic. So that's out. And then in S3 when it finally dawns on them, the most infuriating things come between them - last night for 'research' I watched 'Offspring,' in which Darla turns up eight months pregnant just when Angel's about to do the more-than-friends speech; and 'Waiting in the Wings' when bloody Groo turns up. Grrrrrr. And that's before you even get to the he's-sunk-to-the-bottom-of-the-ocean, she's-sucked-up-to-a-higher-plane-of-being school of keeping two starcrossed lovers apart!

Sigh. I know Joss reckoned nobody would pay to see 'Othello and Desdemona live happily ever after', but couldn't he ever have cut his characters the tiniest little break? Sigh. That curse of Angel's is really terribly inconvenient.

(Oh - and this icon is Angel/Cordy, isn't it?)

Yes. Squee, someone took that one! I quite liked it. I think they're very pretty together :)
yourlibrarian: Angel and Lindsey (Default)

[personal profile] yourlibrarian 2005-09-17 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
have you ever read Ships that pass into type

That was funny. Thanks for mentioning it, and you're right, that's a fantastically done video.