elisi: Living in interesting times is not worth it (Xacula by beer_good_foamy)
elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2010-09-01 05:59 pm
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I'm sure you've all heard about LJs latest round of fail. How do they do it? I mean, every single time, they get things just *spectacularly* wrong. ::shakes head:: ETA: [livejournal.com profile] news post here, if you want to know what's going on/complain. (I like the pingback thing though. That seems nifty.)

I guess it's fitting that #36 of s8 comes out today. Wtf-ery seeks wtf-ery. Am currently v. pleased that I never got a Facebook or signed up for Twitter.

Oh, and I almost forgot - if anyone wants a Dreamwidth invite, I've got a handful. (Not that I'm about to migrate, but...)
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[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-09-01 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, today seems to be the DAY OF FAIL, where everyone is mad about everything.

I'm glad I finished up my manifesto because I could still do it without my squee being tainted. *sigh* My advice to everyone is to go read all the fics I recced! :D It'll make you feel better--I promise!
elisi: Living in interesting times is not worth it (Hair is apooft by obscuruslupa)

[personal profile] elisi 2010-09-01 05:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Alas I am much too busy to read fic (or even write it, that'd be even better!), but I am SO GLAD that I have another [awesome] fandom to balance out the crack that passes for BtVS these days.

As for LJ then I'm mostly stunned at their neverending incompetence. I'm almost impressed.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-09-01 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I understand. But you're right--DW is nothing but happy right now! I am so glad I'm not a one-fandom kind of girl; I'd probably be endlessly depressed.

I know, right? Every decision they make seems designed to piss off their users. I don't get it.
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[personal profile] elisi 2010-09-01 05:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I am so glad I'm not a one-fandom kind of girl; I'd probably be endlessly depressed.
Same here. Not that I don't love Buffy still, but I am able to disengage enough not to let the comics bother me overmuch.

Every decision they make seems designed to piss off their users. I don't get it.
It is truly bizarre.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-09-01 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I've reached the disengaged point (FINALLY!) and it feels great.
elisi: Living in interesting times is not worth it (s8 wft-ery by beer_good_foamy)

[personal profile] elisi 2010-09-01 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Yay! \o/

I was always pretty disengaged, since I couldn't see the comics as canon no matter what (and I *adore* the Spike ones, so it's not that I had an anti-comic agenda). Then of course s8 turned out to be unadulterated crack, which made things easier. The final breaking point came with the bank robbing.

ETA: Did you ever read my s8 fic? The Girl in Question II. Written before the bankrobbing reveal, so Buffy's character wasn't *completely* ruined yet... VERY tongue-in-cheek. :)
Edited 2010-09-01 20:16 (UTC)

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-09-01 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't! But I'll have to check it out!
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[personal profile] elisi 2010-09-01 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not very long - I just re-read it and smiled all over again. Ah, the innocence. Little did I know that what we *then* thought was cracktastic was merely a tiny forerunner...

[identity profile] joking.livejournal.com 2010-09-01 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I look forward to the day when the critical mass is just right and everyone flees to Dreamwidth. It seems great to me, I just haven't gone over yet because I feel like there aren't quite enough people on the other side...
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[personal profile] elisi 2010-09-01 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Well I don't *want* to go to Dreamwidth (even though I have an account - do you want an invite?), since - as you say - everyone is on LJ, and I much prefer things here. (Well apart from the guys in charge - the DW masters are made of awesome.)

That said, a LOT of people crosspost these days...

[identity profile] joking.livejournal.com 2010-09-01 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
There's also sentimental value mixed up in there somewhere. I've had this account since 2004, and there are some very old entries locked to just me with glimpses of my obnoxious past self I can't let go of.
elisi: Living in interesting times is not worth it (Buffy Anne Summers by thesuthernangel)

[personal profile] elisi 2010-09-01 06:21 pm (UTC)(link)
The same here. *is fond of old self*

[identity profile] ladymercury-10.livejournal.com 2010-09-01 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm afraid I've missed something--what is this evil that LJ hath wrought?
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[personal profile] elisi 2010-09-01 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Good summary by [livejournal.com profile] rm here, which includes a link to the relevant [livejournal.com profile] news post.

(I like the pingback feature though. That works.)

[identity profile] ladymercury-10.livejournal.com 2010-09-01 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I did see the news post, I just wasn't sure what about it was troublesome. Why anyone would want to cross-post comments is beyond me, and since I don't cross-post or lock posts (so far), I don't understand the mechanism by which it violates privacy. Thanks for the link, though. And yes, pingbacks are very nice!
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[personal profile] elisi 2010-09-01 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
It becomes problematic if someone comments on a flocked post and crossposts anywhere, since the subject of the post would probably be easily inferred. People flock stuff for a reason. Or for many reasons, rather. Some want to LJ and RL separate, some want to post their smut in peace, some want to rant or bitch about others... the list goes on.

[identity profile] ladymercury-10.livejournal.com 2010-09-01 05:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I can see that...I guess I just don't understand the reason why this would be a good feature at all...maybe Twitter-izing LJ? Which seems like quite a bad idea indeed....
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[personal profile] elisi 2010-09-01 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh it's a bad idea all round! *shakes head at LJs continued idiocy*

[identity profile] velara.livejournal.com 2010-09-01 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Seems a lil silly, all the kerfuffle. I looked at the settings. You still have to actually add your twitter and facebook info. Just cause you have them doesn't automatically connect it all. Alot of hoohah for nothing that big a deal imo.
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[personal profile] elisi 2010-09-01 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
It's the fact that you can broadcast comments on flocked posts that is getting people up in arms. And I can see their point.

Also the extra options are just annoying, I wish it was possible to not have those at all. (If people want them, let them, I have no problem with that. I just don't see why *my* LJ should be cluttered with lots of stuff I'll never use.)

[identity profile] joking.livejournal.com 2010-09-01 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a Greasemonkey script that'll get rid of it.

http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/85105
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[personal profile] elisi 2010-09-01 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you!

[identity profile] zanthinegirl.livejournal.com 2010-09-01 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I go on vacation for A COUPLE OF DAYS and come back and have no idea what the heck is going on!
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[personal profile] elisi 2010-09-01 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL! It's the apocalypse! /o\ Save your babies and your beadwork!
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[personal profile] yourlibrarian 2010-09-01 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Am currently v. pleased that I never got a Facebook or signed up for Twitter.

I have yet to make a post on LJ that would fit on Twitter, so... I do actually have an account there but I haven't used it for anything other than reading a friend's posts a few times.

I do get the usefulness of duplicating a post. There are even a number of fandom folks who have an "offline friends" LJ who could find it handy to post both here and at Facebook. It is funny though, that now that Facebook use is actually ebbing away in their desired demographic they make it easier to post there!

But the comment thing? What sense does that make? And yes, it opens up a whopping big can of worms.

Oh, and I almost forgot - if anyone wants a Dreamwidth invite, I've got a handful. (Not that I'm about to migrate, but...)

I'll raise you by 20 on the invite front. All I can say is that LJ is obviously never thinking of fandom users when they do a lot of these things.

I do, however, also like the Pingbot idea. Especially because I tend to rec things well after I read or view them, I would welcome a way to notify all those recced that I've done so without having to go back and leave a message to that effect. I don't know of any fan creator who doesn't like knowing how people are coming across their work. What I don't understand is what happened to Pingbacks the "first" time -- why are they being brought back now?
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[personal profile] elisi 2010-09-01 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I have yet to make a post on LJ that would fit on Twitter, so...
LOL! Ain't that the truth for all of us!

It is funny though, that now that Facebook use is actually ebbing away in their desired demographic they make it easier to post there!
Rather. And tons of people crosspost from Dreamwidth (because you can't from LJ), why didn't they work on that?

But the comment thing? What sense does that make? And yes, it opens up a whopping big can of worms.
I don't think 'sense' ever came into it...

All I can say is that LJ is obviously never thinking of fandom users when they do a lot of these things.
They really, really don't. *shakes head*

Especially because I tend to rec things well after I read or view them, I would welcome a way to notify all those recced that I've done so without having to go back and leave a message to that effect
::nods a lot::
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[personal profile] yourlibrarian 2010-09-01 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh, even my comments are usually too wordy!

And tons of people crosspost from Dreamwidth (because you can't from LJ), why didn't they work on that?

Money, I'm sure. DW is a miniscule site compared to LJ (much less Facebook) and there's already a healthy number of people who use both sites. Yet I'd be willing to bet that in a random poll of LJ users maybe 1 out of 10 has heard of DW and maybe a quarter of those has gone so far as to look at it. Plus, as DW does not run ads there's no possible revenue to share there.

::nods a lot::

I know that one of the SPN rec communities has a policy of notifying individuals that they've been included in a post, but so far as I've seen they're the only ones. I can't help thinking that new LJ fandom people could also start tying into communities and other users more quickly by being able to follow how information gets distributed, though that probably won't happen because the notices are screened. It's hardly a new idea though, as most every blog out there has a trackback system which often links to other similar discussions.
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[personal profile] elisi 2010-09-02 06:50 am (UTC)(link)
Heh, even my comments are usually too wordy!
Same here. I even have a rambling icon...

Money, I'm sure.
Yeah, I think you're right.

I know that one of the SPN rec communities has a policy of notifying individuals that they've been included in a post, but so far as I've seen they're the only ones.
I've never really come across it, and I think it's a brilliant idea. Yay for LJ getting something right!
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[personal profile] gillo 2010-09-01 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I've left a complaint. What idiot ever thought it a good idea to allow crossposting of comments from a locked journal? Bloody stupid.

I am on DW and many more bits of f*ckwittery like this and I'll move there permanently.
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[personal profile] elisi 2010-09-01 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I've left a complaint.
Me too. Last I checked there were about 2500...

What idiot ever thought it a good idea to allow crossposting of comments from a locked journal? Bloody stupid.
Extraordinarily so. Do these people think at all?

I am on DW and many more bits of f*ckwittery like this and I'll move there permanently.
Can't say I'd blame you.

[identity profile] poshcat.livejournal.com 2010-09-01 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Madness, I tell you! And all they would have had to do was not allow cross-posting on locked posts. Or just cross-posting on their own posts, not comments at all. So easy to fix. SIGH.
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[personal profile] elisi 2010-09-01 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
That's the thing! SO EASY. And yet they get it wrong...

Also - hello! *smooches* I've been reading your posts (the drawing was adorbz!), I'm just USELESS at commenting. Sorry. It's lovely to see you around!
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[personal profile] silverusagi 2010-09-01 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I wonder what the meeting was like where they came up with this "great" idea. All of them sitting around wondering how to make LJ users' lives "easier."

It's called privacy, people! Why does this concept escape you?
elisi: Living in interesting times is not worth it (facepalm by queen_lothiriel)

[personal profile] elisi 2010-09-01 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Most things escape them I'm afraid...

*wonders too*
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