Just wondering.

[elisi]

These last few weeks lots of people wrote to Scott Allie (and awesome letters they were too), so I was wondering - has anyone written to him about #34 and told him that now we're caught between going 'wtf?' ('cause NONE of it makes sense) and laughing our heads off, because the 'porn' is fugly as hell and so tame it could probably go on ff.net?

ETA: Oh - and how is Joss reconciling this 'canon' thing he keeps talking about with the very clear re-boot he's performed? If you're going to change the whole mythology, at least be upfront about it. Or maybe he conveniently *forgot* seven years worth of continuity... Wouldn't put it past him to be honest.

Not sure why I'm writing this. Mostly I think that this whole sorry affair should be renamed The Emperor's New Clothes. Except clearly 'Tee-hee, look they're naked' is what they're now going for... Hm. A better name would probably be 'Buffy: The Porn Star Years'. 'Cause nothing says female empowerment like taking off your clothes! (The more I think about it, the more it bothers me. Of course the art is too ugly for words, but the objectification is deeply unpleasant. I don't care that it might be 'subversive' - it's still *there*. Also, I love my mood theme. Go Ianto!)


Re. why Joss is writing this, then paratti has the best theory so far.

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[prophecygirrl.livejournal.com]

The objectification issue has been bothering me a lot as well. It bothered me on Dollhouse, where rape and rape metaphors were used to titillate even as they used it to demonstrate the evilness of the Dollhouse's nature.


And now, I've spent way too much time trying to parse Meltzer's statement of intent in a recent interview:

I actually wanted it to be more than just titillating crap. I wanted to be sexy and beautiful. And one of the best compliments we've gotten by e-mails and all over the place was where people said they went to read it again in a dark room. There's something immensely disturbing about that, but full credit again to Georges for getting to that moment where we're trying to turn people on. That wasn't the full goal or what we set out to do, but if you're going to do this and tackle it in this way, you better at least do that.

O_O There is so much double-speak in there, that my head may explode. And yes, it angers me. But at this point, unless you are vitriolic, the answer is always going to be "wait for the next issue" or "wait for Joss to explain it all", and if you do not ascribe to the church of Joss (irony intended), you'll not be taken seriously. And if you are vitriolic, you'll not be taken seriously. And if you let any 'shipper sensibility leak through, you'll not be taken seriously. There has to be a way, but I don't see it right now.

[elisi]

*blinks*

O_O indeed. I'm kinda speechless to be honest. Mostly because it's just creepy and distrubing (and partly that THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO FIND IT HOT?????) - but mostly just... ew.

(Did you watch this clip that I posted yesterday? That's how to do it!)

There has to be a way, but I don't see it right now.
Calling Buffy a porn star and telling him that it's made all of LJ shake with laughter?

[prophecygirrl.livejournal.com]

I didn't mean a way to do the porn that wasn't awful. I meant a way to write a letter that someone at the comics would actually be unable to dismiss. One way to do that would have to be to speak to their original intent, and this statement is just....

I'd have to write it for myself, without any hope of having an effect. I might, still.

And, in case you're wondering, I'm definitely on the "not sexy" bandwagon. Your example was much better in this regard.

[elisi]

I didn't mean a way to do the porn that wasn't awful.
Oh yes, I got that. It's just that I can't believe that they actually think it's well done. My mind is boggling.

I'd have to write it for myself, without any hope of having an effect. I might, still.
Good luck! Personally I'd be snarky as hell, and I don't think that would work at all...

[sockmonkeyhere.livejournal.com]

There is so much double-speak in there

"And one of the best compliments we've gotten by e-mails and all over the place was where people said they went to read it again in a dark room."

I want to know how he thinks that if you're in a dark room, you can read it.

[stormwreath.livejournal.com]

Maybe that question should be better directed at the person who wrote that in the email they sent to him, rather than to the author himself?

[sockmonkeyhere.livejournal.com]

*g* He just seems so darned thrilled by it, I'm not convinced that he doesn't think it himself! ;)

[prophecygirrl.livejournal.com]

LMAO!!! Now THAT? Is exactly what I needed. THANK YOU for de-funkifying me!

[sockmonkeyhere.livejournal.com]

*grin* You're welcome! I'm also waiting for him to explain why he thinks that vampire bats live in Texas and eat mosquitoes.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=25656

(That's about three-quarters down the page, under the picture of GiantForeheadGiles and a bat with glowing red zombie eyeballs.)

[rahirah]

Hey, there have been vampire bats found two hundred miles south of Texas! It's ALMOST Texas!

[sockmonkeyhere.livejournal.com]

LMAO! And, and one of them scratched a mosquito bite once, so that's ALMOST like he ate it!

[prophecygirrl.livejournal.com]

Haven;t you seen Harmony's show? Vampires are everywhere these days!

Maybe they;re going in for a healthier diet. Less cholesterol. :-P

[sockmonkeyhere.livejournal.com]

Hee!

Insects: The Other White Meat.

[hobbituk.livejournal.com]

He got it wrong. They went to read it in a dark room because in a dark room they couldn't actually see the horror of it!

[sockmonkeyhere.livejournal.com]

Bwaha!

...Oh, dear, I hope Dark Horse doesn't decide to publish special Scratch 'n Sniff collector editions.