*insert sparkly joke here*

[elisi]

Twilight revealed!!!eleventy!!!

"What if I'm not the hero? What if I'm... the bad guy?" [insert constipated look]

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

*clears throat*

Seriously though... Um... Afraid there is no 'seriously'. I obviously must care on *some* level, because I'm making this post, but mostly I'm just wishing Joss would back away and let my dear slayers & vampires rest in peace. Dunno what they did to deserve this.

Anyway, what amuses me most of all is this:

Allie promised that Whedon had plans to reconcile both versions to make a cohesive Buffyverse. "I talked to Chris [Ryall] at IDW last night, and I'm going to talk to him today to reassure him that it all connects and it's all going to jibe. That's one thing we wanted to reassure him of and to make clear. This isn't going to be some big conflict with the IDW continuity. It's all going to be made to work."

So *now* they care about continuity?

Shame about the unrecognisable characters...

(I feel I ought to have something else to say, but... I just don't care. Presuming, of course, that it's not an early April-fools joke. *shrugs*)

But! Look: Cute pictures of Eleven and Amy in the show! :)

Comments

[beer-good-foamy.livejournal.com]

So *now* they care about continuity?

*snerk*

Though thinking about it, there's got to be a middle ground for DH and IDW here. Between Angel being a totally redeemed whitehat who was neve really very dark to begin with over at IDW, to him being a mass-murdering evil mastermind at DH... that can't be that difficult to reconcile, can it?

[hobbituk.livejournal.com]

I think the comics are rubbish anyway, and I don't really care what they do with Angel as long as they leave Spike alone!

[deird1]

totally redeemed whitehat who was neve really very dark to begin with

What? How has IDW been managing that?

[beer-good-foamy.livejournal.com]

I didn't say they succeeded...

[stormwreath.livejournal.com]

According to the telephone interview with Scott Allie, Twilight's identity was already established four-five years ago, before one world of 'After The Fall' was written. So I assume IDW took care to make sure their story fit into the continuity of the story Joss was already telling with that character.

This might explain why IDW no longer put Joss's name on the covers of their Angel comics once AtF finished, though.

[rahirah]

Meh, whatever. Makes about as much sense as anything else in S8, and I'm sure Angel will come out of it smelling like roses - he always does.

[velara.livejournal.com]

I've actually been collecting them, haven't received 31 yet.. but now I REALLY want to read it to see what they're doing.

I've been really enjoying Angel season 5. After the Fall and Aftermath have been pretty cool. Buffy 8 has been a little all over, but I still enjoyed it. To be honest, it was what they wrote into the last comic (30) that got me really excited..

[flake-sake.livejournal.com]

that.

[zanthinegirl.livejournal.com]

I've long since stopped buying them, and only vaguely follow the "character development" these days. But I didn't see that coming. Actually? Obama makes more sense :D

11 & Amy are adorable is what I've seen so far. OK, OK, he's not 10 and she's not my Donna, but I'm starting to bend...

[avrelia.livejournal.com]

I am sure it will all make perfect sense at the end. Angel is, of course, only pretends to be evil in order to thwart evil plans of Spike...

XANDER: So, when you gave him my neck to chew on, why didn't you clock him before he had a chance to clock you?

ANGEL: I told you. I couldn't make the first move. I had to see if he was buying it or not.

XANDER: A-and if he bit me, what then?

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Joss = REACHING (I would say desperate but if Allie is to be believed Joss planned this all along. So... reaching. Honestly, "plot twist" screams some sort of Alt or reset button. Still ::headdesk::)

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Agreed.

[lynnenne]

Ok, I admit I stopped reading the Buffy comics after the first issue and have only been keeping up by reading the reviews that you and others have posted. But - doesn't Twilight want all the Slayers dead?

[beer-good-foamy.livejournal.com]

Pretty much, yeah. He's killed a bunch of them. None of them were major characters, though, so it's possible they don't really count.

[beer-good-foamy.livejournal.com]

Also, just a thought...

Allie promised that Whedon had plans to reconcile both versions to make a cohesive Buffyverse. "I talked to Chris [Ryall] at IDW last night, and I'm going to talk to him today to reassure him that it all connects and it's all going to jibe. That's one thing we wanted to reassure him of and to make clear. This isn't going to be some big conflict with the IDW continuity. It's all going to be made to work."

I thought this sounded familiar.

FANS: Explain yourself.

JOSS: I said no.

FANS: What is the meaning of this negative?

JOSS: It means 'no'.

FANS: But the entire Buffyverse will be destroyed.

JOSS: No! 'Cos this is what I'm gonna do - I'm gonna rescue it. I'm gonna save Angel from being a pointless superhero comic, and then I'm gonna have Buffy save the Earth, and then just to finish off, I'm gonna wipe every last STINKING vampire out of the world!

FANS: But you have no plot! No competent artists! And barely any readers left!

JOSS: Yeah! And doesn't that just scare you to death?

FANS: Joss is initiating hostile action!

...of course, the Doctor's plan didn't actually work the way he thought it would.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

FANS: But what about X, Y, and Z in the story? What about continuity!

JOSS: Screw continuity.

FANS: But what about logic.

JOSS: Screw logic.

FANS: But...

JOSS: It's genius, I tell you. You may not want it, but it's what you need. Trust me, in time, you'll see my the genius.

[rahirah]

They clapped their hands very hard and said, "I do believe in souls, I do believe in souls, I do, I do, I DO believe in souls!"

[rahirah]

A+, would LOL again!

[adoxerella.livejournal.com]

You know, I think every comic I have ever cared about has been hit with the the stupid stick.

I can not begin to fathom how they are planning on taking Angel from where he is in his current arc and making it jive with him trying to kill all the slayers and have him still be Angel. Add the 'us' to the name and it fits more, especially with all the ways Twilight has been screwing with Buffy the whole time.

Still even with my bits of bitterness over how Buffy and company treated the Fang Gang in Season 5 and AtF, I still can't see Angel's character going there. Unless they came after his kid.

[elisi]

LOL!

*has brainwave*

Are we saying that there is some kind of connection between Angel and Twilight?

(It's funny how this icon just does not stop being appropriate!)

[elisi]

My feelings exactly! (This made me laugh though.)

[elisi]

LOL! :D

[elisi]

So I assume IDW took care to make sure their story fit into the continuity of the story Joss was already telling with that character.
Yeah... I'm afraid I am one of those of little faith, who assumes nothing. It's still funny though.

[elisi]

Makes about as much sense as anything else in S8
A fact which makes me very happy. ;) And you're probably right - they'll shoehorn in a happy ending...

Personally I think I'll go re-watch CoE.

[elisi]

I liked After the Fall (and have the comm to prove it! *g*), and *loved* Asylum, Shadowpuppets and Spike: AtF. Otherwise... not my cup of tea. But I'm glad that there are people out there who enjoy the story. I hope I've not harshed your squee too much. I just can't help mocking, sorry.

[elisi]

Actually? Obama makes more sense :D
Obama, I think, would have chosen a cooler name. ;)

11 & Amy are adorable is what I've seen so far. OK, OK, he's not 10 and she's not my Donna, but I'm starting to bend...
My feelings too. And there's this big EMPTINESS right now, so to fill up that Doctor-shaped hole...

[elisi]

Heeeeeee!

Credit where credit is due though - Spike is a bonafide Good Guy these days. Underdeveloped, maybe, and often ignored, but not evil. (Also this! *g*)

[shapinglight]

I'm beginning to think that Cheryl the Bangel 'shipper's insistence that while Angel's been human in A: AtF, Angelus has been off doing other stuff will prove to be right after all.

Yes, it's desperate reaching from someone who refuses to accept there's any real connection between Angel and Angelus, but it's beginning to look like the only thing that makes sense.

Well, not sense. But you know what I mean.

[elisi]

He makes RTD look positively restrained... Which are not words you can write very often!

[elisi]

What this story needs - right now - is a Doctor! :)

(Seriously - so much win!)

[elisi]

You know, I think every comic I have ever cared about has been hit with the the stupid stick.
Makes me happy that I stopped reading Elfquest actually. 'Cause I *loved* that.

I can not begin to fathom how they are planning on taking Angel from where he is in his current arc and making it jive with him trying to kill all the slayers and have him still be Angel.
Oh it's simple, they'll just reverse the polarity of the neutron flow... (which I suppose is Who-speak for getting rid of his soul! *g*)

Unless they came after his kid.
Now there's an idea. (If Joss has to balls to kill Connor for good, I shall be much impressed. But I don't think he'll go there. Still, even a threat would be *some* kind of motivation. *shakes head*)

[elisi]

Well, not sense. But you know what I mean.
LOL! Yes, I know what you mean. Or maybe he just went insane?

I really ought to do a bit of Buffy re-watch before this ridiculous circus kills the love I have for the show...

[velara.livejournal.com]

Oh no, you haven't. Not a problem on the mocking. Sometimes I read some of the Buffy 8 and go... WTF? I'm very interested to know how this will work out in continuity. I didn't get shadow puppets or asylum yet, and I probably should... but yeah, AtF - Angel and Spike, both were awesome. And actually, now that I think about it.. I can kinda see where Aftermath may end up leading towards season 8 Buffy... kindof.

[elisi]

Oh no, you haven't. Not a problem on the mocking.
Oh good! :)

Sometimes I read some of the Buffy 8 and go... WTF? I'm very interested to know how this will work out in continuity.
Me too! (Not that I read them, but I glance at other people's reviews from time to time.)

I didn't get shadow puppets or asylum yet, and I probably should..
Oh you really really should! Shadow Puppets is fun, but Aslum is probably the best comic I've read so far (out of all the BtVS/AtS ones). Very dark, but absolutely excellent.

And actually, now that I think about it.. I can kinda see where Aftermath may end up leading towards season 8 Buffy... kindof.
Well, you never know...

[kitmarlowescot2.livejournal.com]

How in hell can Twilight be Angel ?
Oyy...and the battles of Spuffy vs Bangel begins again. Screw Buffy, I just want the boys to be together. I hope to God they won't touch Spike at all !!!!

[elisi]

How in hell can Twilight be Angel ?
Beats me, but apparently it's going to make sense.

*takes deep breath*

*cracks up laughing*

Nothing in those comics have made sense so far, don't know why they're suddenly so worried about explaining things.

Oh, and yes - a LOT of us a praying that Spike will escape The Curse of s8. I'm not optimistic, but he *does* have his own series now...