elisi: Edwin and Charles (I love you (Chosen) by earth_vexer)
elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2004-12-08 12:43 pm

More squee! And a Spuffy thought!

Well, Christmas has obviously come early, because yesterday someone gifted me with more icon-space! Thank you so much anonymous benefactor! LJ-fairy? Christmas-fairy? Or... ::looks suspiciously at Anna and her magic wand::

Today we went to Impish Girl's pre-school/nursery to see their nativity play! Anyone who hasn't seen 25 3-year olds doing this hasn't lived! They were all just so cute!! And afterwards there was tea and cakes, and because about half the children are asian, and parent's brought the refreshments, I had Christmas cake and onion bhajis (sorry about spelling).

But - I also have a little thought to share:



Spuffy Thought

Now I doubt I'm the first one to notice this, but I felt like sharing anyway! We all know that heartbreaking moment:

Buffy: "I love you."
Spike: "No you don't."

I'm one of those who think that yes she meant it and yes he believed her. (See this post by [livejournal.com profile] the_royal_anna and this FitB by Kimi: The Way It Works - set just post-Chosen).

But that's not what I'm going to talk about. Because I discovered that there was a precedent for 'I love you' / 'No you don't'! And also that in this scene the denial doesn't mean disbelief. Let me show you - this is from the alley scene in 'Dead Things:

Spike: "You're not going in there."
Buffy: "I have to do this. Just let me go."
Spike: "I can't. I love you."
Buffy: "No, you don't."
Spike: "You think I haven't tried not to?"
Buffy hauls off and punches him in the face. Spike goes flying back into a couple of garbage cans, against the wall of the next building.
Buffy: "Try harder."

Buffy's denial is most certainly an instruction - a command even. And how interesting that this exchange comes at one of their lowest points and the mirror scene at their highest! I just liked the symmetry. Now go discuss! ;-)

kathyh: (Kathyh Spuffy)

[personal profile] kathyh 2004-12-08 07:18 am (UTC)(link)
Fascinating observation. You are gradually persuading me to seeing the "No, you don't" as an instruction *g*.

The nativity play sounds delightful, and the Christmas cake and onion bhajis sounds...interesting.

kathyh: I made this (Kathyh English)

[personal profile] kathyh 2004-12-08 09:11 am (UTC)(link)
Before you sweep out I meant to say thanks for the icon pimpage *g*.
kathyh: (Kathyh Spike poetic)

[personal profile] kathyh 2004-12-08 10:42 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I'll pimp you up and down LJ! Your icons are just so pretty!

A blushing thank you. And it's nice to have my own pimp *g*.

And I wanted to ask - do you have all your icons stashed away somewhere?

No, I don't. The icon making just started as a bit of entirely self-taught fun and has turned into an obsession. Up until now I hadn't thought of stashing them all together but I have been wondering about it recently. I might try and sort my Memories out to include them, but it's only the more recent ones that are anywhere good enough to bother with and those are here and here. There are some Highlander and some Lord of the Rings mixed in there too.