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elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2007-05-30 07:14 am
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Damn.

You are probably all aware of this already, but just in case, here's some links!

A vigilante group 'Warriors for Innocence' is going around Livejournal, trolling and reporting users/communities with hot button terms listed as interests (like "rape", "incest" and "pedophilia". They are also apparently trolling through userpics) and getting the users/communities suspended. (Might not be just them, btw. But they do appear to be at the center!)

[livejournal.com profile] liz_marcs wrote them a letter and they wrote back (included is her response to them).

Post about [livejournal.com profile] pornish_pixies here, including a letter from LJ (you wanna bitch at someone, bitch at 6A - LJ is just caught in the crossfire and trying not to get sued. *sigh*).

I'll leave you with a link to this post with has a whole load of links. (Including programs for PCs and Mac that'll back-up LJ!)

All I wanted to do this morning was getting a little writing done...

[identity profile] beer-good-foamy.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 07:29 am (UTC)(link)
"Warriors for innocence"

"WARRIORS for INNOCENCE"

Nope. Still sounds like a Simpsons joke, no matter how many times I hear it.

And that whole "I can't tell you which law enforcement agency I'm with" sounds like this religious nut on another forum I'm on, who insists that God talks to him personally and that he has had several meetings with the FBI to inform them of God's will. Tinfoil hat alert.

*shakes head for humanity's sake*

[identity profile] beer-good-foamy.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 08:06 am (UTC)(link)
Everything [livejournal.com profile] liz_marcs states is eloquent; her restraint really is incredible. What really boggles me is that they seem to be aware that they aren't actually targeting actual pedophiles, and that they are still proud of this. Their whole logic is flawed. As if the important thing is to be outraged and to show that you are outraged, not to actually, y'know, help people who have been victimized. No, let's shut down book discussion clubs, fiction archives and rape/incest survivor comms (that last one really is sickening) and tell ourselves we've achieved something. As always, the squeaky wheel gets the grease and everyone's too proud of themselves to see in which direction the wheel is rolling... which is a somewhat clumsy metaphor, but what the hell.

But if you're in the mood for a laugh, that tinfoil post is here.

[identity profile] beer-good-foamy.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 08:40 am (UTC)(link)
Well hopefully LJ will re-instate that one.

I MAY have spoken too soon here, but there were a few comments over at liz's post that suggest this has happened. I really hope I'm wrong, but if the Mrs Lovejoy Brigade are indeed going solely by listed interests rather than actual content, then survivor comms would presumably be in the firing line...

God DOES NOT TALK LIKE THAT! Heck one of the great things about Jesus was that he spoke plainly for all to understand.

Nutso's exact response when I told him the very same thing: "Try someday to get your own real dictation from God, and try to keep up with him." o_O

Y'know, cause, being a prophet involves actually hunting God down and MAKING him tell you things in - quote - "prophetic language and style that hasn't been seen since The Book of Isaiah was written some 2500 years ago."

Oh, the humanity. *snuggles into handbasket, enjoys the ride*

[identity profile] beer-good-foamy.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 08:54 am (UTC)(link)
At the risk of sounding like a total fanbrat, can I just say...

OMGICON!

[identity profile] beer-good-foamy.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 09:35 am (UTC)(link)
I just watched Shaun of the Dead with the cast commentary yesterday... Dylan Moran's sense of humour is something completely unique to this world. If I ever become financially independent or whatever the correct term for "filthy rich" is, I'm going to open a Black Books store myself.

I have quite a few sat around in folders that I could send your way if you like?

I'd love that, thanks a lot! dobrapivo(at)gmail.com. Of course, I'm constantly out of user pic space myself, but I try to rotate...

[identity profile] beer-good-foamy.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 11:19 am (UTC)(link)
Got 'em - thanks a bunch!

(Incidentally, in her latest post, Mrs Lovejoy a/ claims victory for getting "hundreds" of journals deleted, and b/ completely washes her hands of any responsibility for getting "innocent" journals deleted. This moral high ground thing looks like a lot of fun, but the lack of oxygen is starting to show.)

[identity profile] avrelia.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 03:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Why don't those smart folks just shut up LJ and be done with it? There could be pedophiles everywhere!

[identity profile] st_salieri.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 08:07 am (UTC)(link)
This whole thing is crazy. It seems like fandom's getting it from all sides these days.

And to prove what a perv I am, that phrase immediately made my mind go to a Spike/Buffy/Angel threesome. Heh.

[identity profile] st_salieri.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 08:29 am (UTC)(link)
No, you shouldn't feel threatened! I don't feel personally threatened by any of this, but it still makes me sad and worried for fandom's sake. ::hugs::

It's 3:30 am here, I'm trying to finish up a fic chapter to post, and I've been wasting all my energy on the wank all evening.

[identity profile] powerofthebook.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 12:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Sigh.

This is the problem I've got with vigilante justice. They're so damn proud and justified in their own minds that they don't stop to see the whole picture.

I checked out their site, in which they expressed no regret and no responsibility for the innocent (heh) sites that were deleted as well.
I really wish there was a way to hold them accountable for this. If a police officer fired into a crowd of people and hit a bunch of bystanders as well as the suspect, you can bet that officer wouldn't be commended.