elisi: Edwin holding a tiny snowman (S8 Buffy by dreamer1104)
elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2007-04-07 10:09 am
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More reviews.

So, I finally got myself a S8 icon (by [livejournal.com profile] dreamer1104) - but then this is by a mile my favourite scene so far.

Anyway, more linkage - quite a lot of musing about feminism etc.:

Brief thoughts by [livejournal.com profile] kathyh.
Deep thoughts by [livejournal.com profile] molly_may.
Deep thoughts by [livejournal.com profile] thedeadlyhook.
Response to the Deep Thoughts by [livejournal.com profile] stormwreath. (Now with nifty icon! Check it out! *g*)
Summary and analysis by [livejournal.com profile] moscow_watcher.
Thoughts by [livejournal.com profile] ibmiller.

ETA3: Nifty comparisions between comic and show images. ([livejournal.com profile] stormwreath again!) (Who is the mystery guy...?)

ETA: Saw that this post was rec'd in The Herald, so here are previous links:

Review by [livejournal.com profile] stormwreath
Review by [livejournal.com profile] yourlibrarian.
Review by [livejournal.com profile] aycheb.
Very funny review by [livejournal.com profile] shapinglight.

I think the best things about the comics is how we're all reading them, and thus discussing the same topics. Yes there's bitching about the art, but most of the posts delve a lot deeper. Even if Joss might disappoint, fandom does not.

Actually - a thought on the whole feminism thing. Both [livejournal.com profile] molly_may and [livejournal.com profile] thedeadlyhook comment on how all the men (even Andrew!) seem to be cool and in charge, whereas the Slayers are just a bunch of girls that need someone to lead them. And Buffy is all tied down and helpless...
I think (as [livejournal.com profile] thedeadlyhook said) that this is where the comic format is really awkward. One issue is only about 1/4 of an episode, so in effect we have only just seen half of ep. 1 of S8 - and if there's anything that usually happens in ep 1 it's Buffy faltering, doubting herself etc - and then turning around to save the day at the end. So I'm stubbornly holding out hope that at the end of issue 4 Buffy will be The Hero, showing the rest of them how it's done.

ETA: I was going to make more points, but [livejournal.com profile] stormwreath made a lot of them already. So I'll go sit in the lovely sunshine.

Also I want Andrew's daft speech to have some sort of meaning - clothes make the man? Don't judge by appearences? Guess I'll have to wait and see, but the thing takes up an awful lot of space for no apparent reason.


Also a Happy Birthday to [livejournal.com profile] azdak and [livejournal.com profile] sarahlynnl! Hope you had/have fabulous days! :)

[identity profile] aycheb.livejournal.com 2007-04-07 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry if I gave the impression any personal slight was intended. Raised by wolves. Argumentative wolves. All I'm questioning is whether the particular interpretation of what we've been left with that you're not loving is the only possible one.

[identity profile] thedeadlyhook.livejournal.com 2007-04-07 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sure it's not the only interpretation - as I've said before, I think it's likely that this is a setup bound to be reversed later. My gripe is in the issue to issue timing, and the fact that in order to get a typical "episode," we apparently have to sit through a lot of images of Buffy, and the other women, not being shown as particularly empowered. As a whole story, I'm sure it'll come across differently... but that doesn't help my reaction to what I see now.

Ironically - and I think someone's pointed this out above - Andrew's blather about Lando's outfit in Empire Strikes Back is all about judging by appearances, but I'm still not sure what I'm supposed to draw from that one, because isn't the point there that Andrew thinks Lando didn't look cool, while I'm fairly sure that the filmmakers felt that he did look cool in that movie.