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I am twelve! Twelve I tells ya! But it's fun. *g*
Hello there! Sorry I'm not around much, but RL is rather busy right now I'm afraid - especially since we're at the beginning of a 2 week half term holiday! Expect me to overindulge now and again to keep sane!
Anyhoo, yesterday was fun! As you might remember, I'm following 'Arbitrar Of Quality's reviews of the Buffy verse as he posts his impressions. This weekend it was the turn of 'Primeval' (and later 'Restless' and 'To Shanshu in LA'). The threads started out fairly pedestrian, with people complaining about the season arch and Adam etc. Then someone pulled out this bit from the review:
Seriously, how many times are the good guys going to let Spike live for
no reason other than the actor has a contract? This is getting
ridiculous.
And off they went! (match + dynamite...) There are now... [checks]... 238 comments! Hee! So I spent a good deal of time yesterday aguing with people over Spike - why he was allowed to live, whether it was all the writers fault for being STUPID, or pandering to the audience etc etc. Since I never did this back in the day (what with not knowing that fandom existed) it felt like catching up on something. But - it wasn't just trying to get leopards to change their spots (because that just ain't going to happen, sadly), but something like a long battle for AOQ's opinion. And... we won! (see - told you I was twelve! *g*) he even responded to one of my comments, which makes me extra pleased:
My comment:
> Buffy kills vampires - it's her job description. Spike is the only
> chipped vampire she's ever encountered, hence he's different. The fact
> that she doesn't kill him might be a misjudgement (and Giles clearly
> thinks so), but _she_ obviously doesn't think of Spike as dangerous
> anymore.
AOQ's reply:
That's really the rub, I think. After reading the discussions, you
guys have convinced me that *Buffy* doesn't see Spike as an immediate
threat, and it's not in her nature to kill monsters who aren't
immediate threats. Sme have pointed out that Spike not being able to
attttack humans doesn't mean that he's harmless. Which is true, but
Buffy is very direct-combat oriented, so that's how she sees things.
She's pretty much wrong, but it's consistent with the way she's been
characterized throughout the series so far.
I am soooooo sad! Hee!
But - I have another reason for happiness, in that 'It was... a hello' was nominated at the
in the categories Angel, Buffy and Hero/Heroine.
Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
*dances*
So - even though the house is messy yadda, yadda, yadda, I'm a happy bunny this morning! :)
Anyhoo, yesterday was fun! As you might remember, I'm following 'Arbitrar Of Quality's reviews of the Buffy verse as he posts his impressions. This weekend it was the turn of 'Primeval' (and later 'Restless' and 'To Shanshu in LA'). The threads started out fairly pedestrian, with people complaining about the season arch and Adam etc. Then someone pulled out this bit from the review:
Seriously, how many times are the good guys going to let Spike live for
no reason other than the actor has a contract? This is getting
ridiculous.
And off they went! (match + dynamite...) There are now... [checks]... 238 comments! Hee! So I spent a good deal of time yesterday aguing with people over Spike - why he was allowed to live, whether it was all the writers fault for being STUPID, or pandering to the audience etc etc. Since I never did this back in the day (what with not knowing that fandom existed) it felt like catching up on something. But - it wasn't just trying to get leopards to change their spots (because that just ain't going to happen, sadly), but something like a long battle for AOQ's opinion. And... we won! (see - told you I was twelve! *g*) he even responded to one of my comments, which makes me extra pleased:
My comment:
> Buffy kills vampires - it's her job description. Spike is the only
> chipped vampire she's ever encountered, hence he's different. The fact
> that she doesn't kill him might be a misjudgement (and Giles clearly
> thinks so), but _she_ obviously doesn't think of Spike as dangerous
> anymore.
AOQ's reply:
That's really the rub, I think. After reading the discussions, you
guys have convinced me that *Buffy* doesn't see Spike as an immediate
threat, and it's not in her nature to kill monsters who aren't
immediate threats. Sme have pointed out that Spike not being able to
attttack humans doesn't mean that he's harmless. Which is true, but
Buffy is very direct-combat oriented, so that's how she sees things.
She's pretty much wrong, but it's consistent with the way she's been
characterized throughout the series so far.
I am soooooo sad! Hee!
But - I have another reason for happiness, in that 'It was... a hello' was nominated at the
in the categories Angel, Buffy and Hero/Heroine.
Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
*dances*
So - even though the house is messy yadda, yadda, yadda, I'm a happy bunny this morning! :)
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And although AOQ has odd opinions sometimes, he is very fair and usually looks out for the characters to be consistent - even if that means they're annoying. :)
Btw do you know who made that 'It's all Spike to me' icon? The one with Joss/Espensen/Fury/Petri etc?
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Which is precisely why the character kept coming back like a bad fungus: the swooning female demographic loved his chest and his wry bad-boy attitude.
It wasn't really too hard! *g*
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From: Elisi - view profile
Date: Sun, May 28 2006 8:05 pm
Email: "Elisi" <elis...@gmail.com>
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ntnva? Vg jnfa'g hagvy fur'q xvyyrq gur seng oblf gung Ohssl jrag nsgre
ure. Fb sne Fcvxr unfa'g xvyyrq nalbar. Vs ur sbhaq n jnl ebhaq gur
puvc, fur'q unir gb xvyy uvz - ohg ur unfa'g.
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fur qbrfa'g fgnxr uvz.
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I'm really starting to wonder what language they're in...
Please translate? cause this does seem to happen all over the thread
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From "rotate alphabet 13 places". The simple Caesar-cypher encryption that replaces each English letter with the one 13 places forward or back along the alphabet, so that "The butler did it!" becomes "Gur ohgyre qvq vg!"
There's a de-crypter here:
http://www.rot13.com
People use it to encrypt spoilery comments, since AOQ is very careful not to be spoiled! I found it very confusing as well, until
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And congrats on the nomination.
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And thank you! I'm so pleased that that story was nominated, since I was really trying to say something with it. (And it was a lot of hard work!)
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The AOQ threads are fascinating, aren't they? I haven't plucked up enough courage to wade in yet, but I've been enjoying the discussion. I can't help but get annoyed by some of the comments sometimes, though, so it's probably best that I stay on the sidelines. *g*
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The AOQ threads are fascinating, aren't they?
Absolutely! I finally signed up for the group the other day, since I seem to be doing a fair amount of commenting now... I absolutely can't wait for FFL! :)
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Some fans are just so unreasonable.
Not only Buffy didn't kill Spike but in "Doomed" Xander even saved him!
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I know! And it was such fun! *g*
I'm sure you meant to say 'Willow' re. 'Doomed' (it went something like "We can't kill him - we know him! It'd be ooky!")
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They could have left Spike there...
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I think a fair few of us said exactly that! :)
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