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Clara Theory.
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Well, it isn't really mine, it was first suggested by![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
lyricwrites. Personally I go back and forth. It fits (fits very, very nicely), but many things make 4, not just 2 + 2. However, I shall let you make up your own minds.
(Also approx. half of the thoughts supplied by Promethia, although that does not mean she believes in the theory. She has her own prediction post here.)
Note: Please do NOT post spoilers!
Basic theory: Clara is a TARDIS.
Now, it's obvious that Clara is (or is becoming) a 'thing' of some sort. Possibly an egg. But a sentient thing. Just like a TARDIS... And as there is more than a hint of Gallifrey about her, she could be - if not family - then kindred.
My thoughts are as follows (and have evolved, as this reflects. But I'm too tired to edit everything):
- Names are the consequences of things
Her name. She is bright, she is god's power, and she is god's friend (notice that modern!Clara chooses to call herself Oswin, naming herself his friend). If you wanted to give the TARDIS a name that encapsulated her, you couldn't do much better than Clara Oswin Oswald.
- Like a cat
TARDIS-related characteristics:
- and explode into space (<- This fic is now required reading. Beware, it is creepy as hell.) So, will the Doctor have two blue boxes in the future? I... don't think so. What was the first thing we learned about Clara? How did she define herself? "I am Oswin Oswald. I fought the Daleks. And I AM... human. Remember me." Discovering that she had become a Dalek at first freaked her out, and then made her *refuse* to be something she did not want to be. I can easily imagine this being foreshadowing for later, with Clara clinging to her humanity rather than become an multi-dimensional being in a box.
- Chicken or egg
Related to the above point, is there one, original, Clara, who has been copied & had/will have a TARDIS crammed into her somehow (chicken), or is she a TARDIS that has been poured into a carefully designed template (egg)? Only time will tell, although I lean towards both. (With Moffat, it's always best to assume both. Especially if the options are more or less mutually exclusive.)
- "You cannot be upstairs, it's a one-storey building"
We have already had a story about the TARDIS being extracted from her box, and put into a girl. (And I believe there is a novel/Big Finish story about a TARDIS girl?) Anyway - what if someone was trying to do the opposite? Of course a human can't contain a TARDIS without burning up, so whoever-is-pulling-strings parcelled it out into many Claras throughout time & space. This fits with the ideas about all of her having to come together in order to fulfill her purpose/all the Claras being one Clara. Plus - and this is where I tend to get very flaily and hope this theory is correct - the Silence was trying to build a TARDIS!
The Impossible Astronaut (1969):
The Lodger (2010):
This plot point was thrown in twice, yet never touched on again. (Once in S5, once in S6.) As we saw, the proto-TARDIS was not doing well, as in 2010 it was futilely looking for a pilot in the most inane way. It needed *intelligence*. Consciousness. The heart of the TARDIS, after all, is a living mind. (/An eleventh-dimensional matrix folded into a mechanical. Could there be eleven Claras? To go with the eleven Doctors?) Anyway, Clara could certainly be the consciousness/pilot designed to go with the box. And we have now seen Clara 'pilot' the TARDIS through sheer determination...
Now if we look at The Lodger, here's what is said about 'the pilot':
The correct pilot would seem to be someone between a simple human (burns up) and a Time Lord (makes the TARDIS blow up)... Could it be Clara?
In Hide, the Clara mirror was a lost space explorer (= astronaut = spaceship pilot). A granddaughter. Scared and lost.
- Puppet Master
Somewhere there is someone pulling strings. Someone clever enough to steal Amy ("...they were projecting a control signal right into the TARDIS. Wherever we were in time and space."/"Yes, they're very clever") and turn her baby into a human with a 'Timehead'. I figure Omega is a good fit. He's insane enough (as well as intent on revenge) and if you're blowing up the universe (Silence falling), you'd need a TARDIS in order to sit out the explosion/get somewhere else. Plus, Omega stole the [Fifth] Doctor's body and would have the knowhow to blow up the Doctor's TARDIS. Also the Clerics have Omega symbols on their outfits, etc. He'd make a suitably grand villain for the anniversary. However, for now we should probably just go with 'hooded figure', who- or whatever that is. (The alternative theory is that Clara is something created before destruction of Gallifrey. I'm not sure how this would fit with her being a TARDIS.) We have also have the Great Intelligence knocking about (which likes using people), but it just doesn't fit to the same degree. (We have Omega imagery right back to S5...)
- Family
In Moffat Who everything comes down to family, and Clara being a TARDIS would certainly fit there. ("I'm thinking that all of my sisters are dead" <- the TARDIS would get a sister!) Plus, kissing him wouldn't be icky, which is a plus. Also it'd explain why she calls him 'boy' which is otherwise just a little odd. Mind you, as everyone is usually ALL THE THINGS (like River), I am still clinging to my granddaughter theory, and it wouldn't surprise me if she turned out to be his granddaughter AND the 'pilot' for the Silence's TARDIS...
"I never take the TARDIS into battle"
And here we would have this season's 'time head' line. Not to mention that next week we'll get a journey into the TARDIS. Also... "If he is mad, then this is his madness." And the monks look at the picture of Clara. A mad man with a box... (Ooooh and it could all tie in with The Bad Wolf, which never meant anything except 'random words'. I would LOVE TO DISTRACTION if Rose's [lack of] Bad Wolf imagery came back to be important. Hungry like the Wolf...)
And finally...
After two seasons of people being put in boxes, I think THIS time, the answer will be something different. (It's at this point that I would go into Jekyll parallels, but quite frankly, I think I'll leave that for another time...)
And that's all folks! What do you think?
Well, it isn't really mine, it was first suggested by
lyricwrites. Personally I go back and forth. It fits (fits very, very nicely), but many things make 4, not just 2 + 2. However, I shall let you make up your own minds.(Also approx. half of the thoughts supplied by Promethia, although that does not mean she believes in the theory. She has her own prediction post here.)
Note: Please do NOT post spoilers!
Now, it's obvious that Clara is (or is becoming) a 'thing' of some sort. Possibly an egg. But a sentient thing. Just like a TARDIS... And as there is more than a hint of Gallifrey about her, she could be - if not family - then kindred.
My thoughts are as follows (and have evolved, as this reflects. But I'm too tired to edit everything):
- Names are the consequences of things
Her name. She is bright, she is god's power, and she is god's friend (notice that modern!Clara chooses to call herself Oswin, naming herself his friend). If you wanted to give the TARDIS a name that encapsulated her, you couldn't do much better than Clara Oswin Oswald.
- Like a cat
TARDIS-related characteristics:
- Clara practically has a chameleon circuit, blending in perfectly wherever or whenever she is.
- She is very protective of those in her care.
- Victorian!Clara (unlike anyone else, ever), declared that "It's smaller on the outside", and had tears in her eyes when the Doctor gave her a TARDIS key. Which was a very distinct echo of Amy crying in The Pandorica Opens & The Big Bang - crying because of something that was currently hidden.
- Victorian!Clara claimed to have been born behind the clock face of Big Ben ("Accounting for my acute sense of time") and to have invented fish ("Because I dislike swimming alone"). Not entirely sure what the latter could mean in this context. (People = fish, am stuck from then on.)
- The DNA shaped staircase leading up to the TARDIS.
- The TARDIS dislikes current!Clara, and (like Clara) is slow to trust. The reasons for this specific antipathy I will not even try to speculate on (the TARDIS exists across time and space, what can she see?). More interestingly, the TARDIS mirrored Clara, taking on her form.
Please add to this list.
- and explode into space (<- This fic is now required reading. Beware, it is creepy as hell.) So, will the Doctor have two blue boxes in the future? I... don't think so. What was the first thing we learned about Clara? How did she define herself? "I am Oswin Oswald. I fought the Daleks. And I AM... human. Remember me." Discovering that she had become a Dalek at first freaked her out, and then made her *refuse* to be something she did not want to be. I can easily imagine this being foreshadowing for later, with Clara clinging to her humanity rather than become an multi-dimensional being in a box.
- Chicken or egg
Related to the above point, is there one, original, Clara, who has been copied & had/will have a TARDIS crammed into her somehow (chicken), or is she a TARDIS that has been poured into a carefully designed template (egg)? Only time will tell, although I lean towards both. (With Moffat, it's always best to assume both. Especially if the options are more or less mutually exclusive.)
- "You cannot be upstairs, it's a one-storey building"
We have already had a story about the TARDIS being extracted from her box, and put into a girl. (And I believe there is a novel/Big Finish story about a TARDIS girl?) Anyway - what if someone was trying to do the opposite? Of course a human can't contain a TARDIS without burning up, so whoever-is-pulling-strings parcelled it out into many Claras throughout time & space. This fits with the ideas about all of her having to come together in order to fulfill her purpose/all the Claras being one Clara. Plus - and this is where I tend to get very flaily and hope this theory is correct - the Silence was trying to build a TARDIS!
The Impossible Astronaut (1969):
The Lodger (2010):
This plot point was thrown in twice, yet never touched on again. (Once in S5, once in S6.) As we saw, the proto-TARDIS was not doing well, as in 2010 it was futilely looking for a pilot in the most inane way. It needed *intelligence*. Consciousness. The heart of the TARDIS, after all, is a living mind. (/An eleventh-dimensional matrix folded into a mechanical. Could there be eleven Claras? To go with the eleven Doctors?) Anyway, Clara could certainly be the consciousness/pilot designed to go with the box. And we have now seen Clara 'pilot' the TARDIS through sheer determination...
Now if we look at The Lodger, here's what is said about 'the pilot':
HOLOGRAM:
The ship has crashed. The crew are dead. A pilot is required.
DOCTOR:
You're the emergency crash program. A hologram. You've been luring people up here so you can try them out.
The DOCTOR uses the sonic screwdriver and the hologram changes to that of the little girl, a younger man, then back to the old man.
HOLOGRAM:
You will help me, you will help me, you will help me.
DOCTOR:
Hush! Human brains aren't strong enough, they just burn. You're stupid, aren’t you? You just keep trying.
HOLOGRAM:
17 people have been tried. 6,000,400,026 remain.
[...]
HOLOGRAM:
The correct pilot has now been found.
DOCTOR:
Yes, I was worried you'd say that.
[...]
AMY:
Could you fly the ship safely?
DOCTOR:
No, I'm way too much for this ship. My hand touches that panel, the planet doesn't blow up, the whole solar system does.
The correct pilot would seem to be someone between a simple human (burns up) and a Time Lord (makes the TARDIS blow up)... Could it be Clara?
In Hide, the Clara mirror was a lost space explorer (= astronaut = spaceship pilot). A granddaughter. Scared and lost.
- Puppet Master
Somewhere there is someone pulling strings. Someone clever enough to steal Amy ("...they were projecting a control signal right into the TARDIS. Wherever we were in time and space."/"Yes, they're very clever") and turn her baby into a human with a 'Timehead'. I figure Omega is a good fit. He's insane enough (as well as intent on revenge) and if you're blowing up the universe (Silence falling), you'd need a TARDIS in order to sit out the explosion/get somewhere else. Plus, Omega stole the [Fifth] Doctor's body and would have the knowhow to blow up the Doctor's TARDIS. Also the Clerics have Omega symbols on their outfits, etc. He'd make a suitably grand villain for the anniversary. However, for now we should probably just go with 'hooded figure', who- or whatever that is. (The alternative theory is that Clara is something created before destruction of Gallifrey. I'm not sure how this would fit with her being a TARDIS.) We have also have the Great Intelligence knocking about (which likes using people), but it just doesn't fit to the same degree. (We have Omega imagery right back to S5...)
- Family
In Moffat Who everything comes down to family, and Clara being a TARDIS would certainly fit there. ("I'm thinking that all of my sisters are dead" <- the TARDIS would get a sister!) Plus, kissing him wouldn't be icky, which is a plus. Also it'd explain why she calls him 'boy' which is otherwise just a little odd. Mind you, as everyone is usually ALL THE THINGS (like River), I am still clinging to my granddaughter theory, and it wouldn't surprise me if she turned out to be his granddaughter AND the 'pilot' for the Silence's TARDIS...
"I never take the TARDIS into battle"
And here we would have this season's 'time head' line. Not to mention that next week we'll get a journey into the TARDIS. Also... "If he is mad, then this is his madness." And the monks look at the picture of Clara. A mad man with a box... (Ooooh and it could all tie in with The Bad Wolf, which never meant anything except 'random words'. I would LOVE TO DISTRACTION if Rose's [lack of] Bad Wolf imagery came back to be important. Hungry like the Wolf...)
And finally...
After two seasons of people being put in boxes, I think THIS time, the answer will be something different. (It's at this point that I would go into Jekyll parallels, but quite frankly, I think I'll leave that for another time...)
And that's all folks! What do you think?
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Well I'm guessing it's the same one (Silence Falling) - we still don't know WHY the TARDIS blew up... (And that could well fit with a future!Doctor/shadow!Doctor/Valeyard being the hooded figure)
Thought: the Doctor and River are two poles of a disturbance. In both season finales so far, the universe ends when they are kept apart. I'd always assumed that the universe would survive the Doctor revealing his name because River would be there to "absorb" it, basically, and thus, ironically, the Silence would ultimately succeed in their goal of preventing whatever damage the revelation of the Doctor's name would have caused, but through love rather than death.
*nods a lot* "There's only one reason I would ever tell anyone my name. There's only one time I could..." It seems something very *private* rather than something *dangerous*. Ooooh, you know what it is? It is MAGIC! (Do you like The Shakespeare Code? I always thought it a little silly, but it is redeeming itself by leaps and bounds):
And River knows the power of words. You were going very good places.
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It freaks me out sometimes (in a good way) how much Moffat Who folds back in on the show's themes in the most unexpected of ways.
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I used it in My Immortal to help tie together the 'verses, since Buffy is all MAGIC and DW is all SCIENCE! There's also a nifty bit in Doctor Who and the Daemons.
It freaks me out sometimes (in a good way) how much Moffat Who folds back in on the show's themes in the most unexpected of ways.
Mmmmmm, Wolf.
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Absolutely. Mmmmm, what we were saying about the Doctor not being defined by anyone, and therefore being infinite? What is a name but a definition?
The problem is, I can think of plenty of reasons why the Doctor wouldn't want anyone else to know his name because of the consequences to him. But from what we've heard, it rather sounds like he's more concerned about the consequences to everything else. I'm having a hard time thinking what on earth that could be about. If knowing the Doctor's name is dangerous to, say, the entire universe, then truly he is a god.
Hmmmm, unless, as some have speculated, he used his name to seal off the Time War, and having it known would unleash it again. That could all tie together rather neatly. We've certainly had enough references to the Doctor as a warrior going around. Strategically it makes a good deal of sense: he seals off every Time Lord in the lock, which means that there is no one but him left in the universe who knows his name, so all he has to do to protect the universe from the Time War is to never mention his name again . . . which means that the act that made him Rusty's Lonely God really did make him a lonely god, with the power to destroy the universe on his lips and never able to be truly known to another soul for the rest of his life.
But if the Doctor has to be the Lonely God in order to preserve the peace he's won for the universe, what is Moffat doing in unmaking the Lonely God? How do you open the lock without unleashing hell?
Oh god . . . I think I just argued that the Doctor is Angel *headdesks repeatedly, while choking on laughter*
Not that that wouldn't explain a few things, mind.
Ooooo, and about names as definitions, as a soul, basically: is the Doctor, then, the Lonely God because he replaced his name with *waves hands around* that?
Actually, I really like this *g*
Except the Angel part. Though I guess if Moff got bored of fixing Rusty, he could decide to fix Joss too. I would be fine with that.
(Do you like The Shakespeare Code? I always thought it a little silly, but it is redeeming itself by leaps and bounds):
I rather do, yes. Well, I thought for Rusty Who it was well above par, and I loved the ideas in it, especially about words having a math-like power. Not to mention that it does contain the single funniest joke of the entire Rusty run (aaaaannnnd . . . 47 academics just punched the air).
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Actually, I still find this line endlessly entertaining:
The world doesn't end because the Doctor dances!
Oh, Rose . . . *shakes head* Sweet, naive child.
It has. Twice. And counting.
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Well then he went off and 'danced' with Madame de Pompadour, and I think she learned her lesson. >:)
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The immediate flaw that occurs to me is, if the Doctor used his name to seal off the Time War, why wouldn't he be more concerned about the Master coming back? I presume the Master would know his real name. And the Doctor sealing off the Time War with his name seems like the sort of thing the Master would know/be able to guess. The Master was certainly interested enough in the Doctor's involvement in the Time War.
Though, if it comes down to it, I am in favor of hand-waving Rusty's continuity if it'll make the right symbolic sense within the current show. I'm sure one could come up with something.
Plus: getting to circle back on EoT wtih River in the Master's spot. Don't tell me you don't want to see that.
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♥ ♥ ♥ (Also this would fit with Hooded Figure being future!Doctor of some kind - he has the outfit! And could hack his own dreams, once presumes - and the sudden focus on Skaro/Time War in Asylum.)
why wouldn't he be more concerned about the Master coming back? I presume the Master would know his real name. And the Doctor sealing off the Time War with his name seems like the sort of thing the Master would know/be able to guess. The Master was certainly interested enough in the Doctor's involvement in the Time War.
Well, the Master ran away from the War. The last thing he'd want would be to unleash it. Both of them have massive issues with their home, and the rules that Gallifrey imposed. So if the Master knew the Doctor's name (Master: "He sealed the rift at the Medusa Cascade single-handed."/Evelina: "Even the word "Doctor" is false. Your real name is hidden. It burns in the stars of the cascade of Medusa herself.") then he'd probably be the safest person in the world. The Master - above all - seeks self-preservation. Hence, no danger. (I'm not sure he does, though. You've read 'the naming of things' right? I think his name would be too private.)
Though, if it comes down to it, I am in favor of hand-waving Rusty's continuity if it'll make the right symbolic sense within the current show. I'm sure one could come up with something.
'In the end, a television series which embraces both the ideas of parallel universes and the concept of changing time can't *have* a continuity error. It's impossible.' Moffat
Plus: getting to circle back on EoT wtih River in the Master's spot. Don't tell me you don't want to see that.
*incoherent* (Does that make Clara Wilf? *g*)
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I bow to your superior knowledge, here.
*incoherent* (Does that make Clara Wilf? *g*)
I hope so. She would be fucking adorable in reindeer antlers.
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Mind you, I don't think the Master knows. If he did, he'd have used it against him long ago. (Not in the dangerous way it now is, but just generally.)
I hope so. She would be fucking adorable in reindeer antlers.
This needs to happen.
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I guess it does!
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Miracle.
That's not just like getting a spoiler that in the future he will be that close to somebody again. That's like getting a spoiler that in the future he will be free of this entire bind that he's put himself in. That's like earning a Shanshu. That's like Oswin erasing allllll the Dalek's memories.
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Mind you, now I'm wondering how it all gets fixed and what will replace his name and then, well, Clara presumably. With her leaf or story or magic sparkles.
Pretty please Santa Moff?
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<3 <3 <3
Mind you, now I'm wondering how it all gets fixed and what will replace his name and then, well, Clara presumably. With her leaf or story or magic sparkles.
I'm still feeling like Clara saves everything and the Doctor saves Clara. She is getting saving the world lessons, after all. And she is a dying and resurrecting god (probably). And they keep mirroring her with the Doctor. And wouldn't it be a nice way to bring the Amy/Doctor parallel journeys full circle if he essentially does for Clara what Amy did for him in TBB? Ooooooo, remembering! He's supposed to remember. Though, also, River really wasn't happy about him wasting regeneration energy, which makes me wonder.
But say the Doctor's name is revealed and the Time War is opened. Could Clara re-seal it? Presume that she is a relative. One of her names is "god's power." And if she is a relative, does she then have the Doctor's name? *snaps* A bit like Buffy being able to seal the rift that Dawn's blood opened because they have the same blood. And there would be a nice quasi-karmic thing, there: for the Time War to stay sealed, the Doctor must remain the Lonely God. If Clara exists, then he's not the Lonely God anymore, so her existence must be the cause of the time lock opening (hints that she will be the one to ask the question) and the price of closing it again would have to be her life.
Mmmmm, in Rings of Akhaten, she objects to running away when Grandfather begins waking up because "I caused this." She was the one who encouraged Merry to perform.
And then if Clara got sealed into the time lock, could the Doctor recall her out of it? The mechanics of that sound an awful lot like TBB--the Doctor did say that the cracks couldn't seal all the way without him on the other side, and yet Amy was able to recreate him out of her memories.
Somehow Clara will have to be scattered and/or reconstituted (quite possibly both?). River will do something. Music will be involved, somehow. And magic sparkles.
So I'm sure it will go nothing like that, but I feel like those are the important factors, anyway . . .
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This is kind of this running thing about other people having to sacrifice and be steadfast and give and give and give for the Doctor, and what does he say to Clara? "I wish I was more like that." Wouldn't it be good for him to have a chance to give back?
ETA: icon ; )
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And I love this icon so much. <3
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I'm still feeling like Clara saves everything and the Doctor saves Clara. She is getting saving the world lessons, after all. And she is a dying and resurrecting god (probably). And they keep mirroring her with the Doctor. And wouldn't it be a nice way to bring the Amy/Doctor parallel journeys full circle if he essentially does for Clara what Amy did for him in TBB? Ooooooo, remembering! He's supposed to remember.
Run, and remember. If she gets all exploded, does he remember all the different pieces into existance? Also I can't help but notice that she's now died TWICE (whilst saving the day) - maybe what he is currently learning is to save *her*?
Though, also, River really wasn't happy about him wasting regeneration energy, which makes me wonder.
Yeah, she didn't take that well. Also I wonder if we'll see more of the 'Don't let him see the damage' aspect...
But say the Doctor's name is revealed and the Time War is opened. Could Clara re-seal it? Presume that she is a relative. One of her names is "god's power." And if she is a relative, does she then have the Doctor's name? *snaps* A bit like Buffy being able to seal the rift that Dawn's blood opened because they have the same blood. And there would be a nice quasi-karmic thing, there: for the Time War to stay sealed, the Doctor must remain the Lonely God. If Clara exists, then he's not the Lonely God anymore, so her existence must be the cause of the time lock opening (hints that she will be the one to ask the question) and the price of closing it again would have to be her life.
Yup, that all hangs together. I'm guessing River will be pivotal in some way too. After all, he *trusts* her, and I'm not sure he trusts Clara.
Mmmmm, in Rings of Akhaten, she objects to running away when Grandfather begins waking up because "I caused this." She was the one who encouraged Merry to perform.
Nice catch. She's not as volatile as Amy, but she very much believes in seeing out the consequences of things. This is good. No running away.
And then if Clara got sealed into the time lock, could the Doctor recall her out of it? The mechanics of that sound an awful lot like TBB--the Doctor did say that the cracks couldn't seal all the way without him on the other side, and yet Amy was able to recreate him out of her memories.
Aaaaand, now I'm suddenly writing crack!fic in my head wherein the Doctor remembers the Master back into the universe...
Somehow Clara will have to be scattered and/or reconstituted (quite possibly both?). River will do something. Music will be involved, somehow. And magic sparkles.
Yes, yes, yes and yes. :)
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'No, we don't walk away. But when we are holding onto something precious we run. We run and run, fast as we can, and we don't stop running until we are out from under the shadow.'
If she gets all exploded, does he remember all the different pieces into existance?
Or does he remember all the different pieces back together? These kind of mechanics where the way Amy and Rory ended up with all their disperate lives together in their heads.
Also I can't help but notice that she's now died TWICE (whilst saving the day) - maybe what he is currently learning is to save *her*?
*claps* Of course! "Under my protection. -The Doctor" <---Somebody pointed out that after that episode aired that it seems like a stupid idea for the Doctor to be splashing his name around when he's supposed to be laying low, but it is like he's signing on to a new identity. And he can't stay an anonymous nobody forever, we know, at least.
Yeah, she didn't take that well. Also I wonder if we'll see more of the 'Don't let him see the damage' aspect...
Hmmmm, maybe "the damange" is gonna come out. Everybody has breaking points.
I'm guessing River will be pivotal in some way too. After all, he *trusts* her, and I'm not sure he trusts Clara.
Good point. Hmmmm, the beacon between the worlds? You could say that the Doctor and Clara are trapped in parallel universes right now--emotionally if not literally.
Nice catch. She's not as volatile as Amy, but she very much believes in seeing out the consequences of things. This is good. No running away.
Also interesting, taking Merry as a mirror for Clara, to think over the different interpretations of whose "fault" it was that the old god woke up. Merry thinks it is hers (because she did it wrong) and then the Doctors (for leading her off her destined path). The Doctor says no, she was chosen for this role, but this was just the time for the god to wake up. She shouldn't sacrifice herself just because someone put her up to it. Still, Clara seems like somebody who wouldn't argue about whether it was fair or right that she would wind up in the position like that but would step up anyway because she wanted to help.
Aaaaand, now I'm suddenly writing crack!fic in my head wherein the Doctor remembers the Master back into the universe...
*snerk*
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(Plus the universe exploded and he's already fixed that as well, so he probably reckons that he's got his bases covered.)
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Indeed. Doctor Who!
Hmmmm, unless, as some have speculated, he used his name to seal off the Time War, and having it known would unleash it again.
I absolutely love this. And we know he used his name to seal the rift in the Medusa Cascade...
. . which means that the act that made him Rusty's Lonely God really did make him a lonely god, with the power to destroy the universe on his lips and never able to be truly known to another soul for the rest of his life.
That is so perfect it MUST be true.
Oh god . . . I think I just argued that the Doctor is Angel *headdesks repeatedly, while choking on laughter*
*dies laughing* But mind you, Ten WAS Angel, with extra angst. I have the meta to prove it.
Ooooo, and about names as definitions, as a soul, basically: is the Doctor, then, the Lonely God because he replaced his name with *waves hands around* that?
Soooooo good.
Except the Angel part. Though I guess if Moff got bored of fixing Rusty, he could decide to fix Joss too. I would be fine with that.
Don't think Joss is fixable...
aaaaannnnd . . . 47 academics just punched the air
:)
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*dances* Yes, he did. Actually, did Madame du Pompadour mention that? I know she wonders after his name and says it's "more than a secret."
That is so perfect it MUST be true.
It's the first idea I've had where I feel like it's really bringing together most (all?) of the major strings going on? And it's got some nice, circular, self-referencing symbolic mechanics to it--always a good sign *g* God, this show . . . it is like a drug.
*dies laughing* But mind you, Ten WAS Angel, with extra angst. I have the meta to prove it.
Oh, I know ; )
Don't think Joss is fixable...
Lol! You may have a point, there.
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That's all she says. It's Evelina (Fires of Pompeii) who talks about his name being in the stars... (I put that in a comment somewhere.)
It's the first idea I've had where I feel like it's really bringing together most (all?) of the major strings going on? And it's got some nice, circular, self-referencing symbolic mechanics to it--always a good sign *g* God, this show . . . it is like a drug.
Thisssssss. And yes, I finally feel like I've got some solid ground. Even if it later turns out to be wrong, at least the principal pieces should be OK. Om nom nom show.
Lol! You may have a point, there.
He just likes to stab people in the back. And I don't think he'll ever change...