Not meta, just thinking with pictures.

[elisi]

My thoughts are too jumbled to be put in any kind of order yet.





Clara mirrors everywhere. Except I feel like this:



My meta is... broken. No, that's not right. Fragmented. I can only see in pieces. This is very frustrating.

Comments

[purplefringe.livejournal.com]

it was S5 that did that incredible THING that I still can't define

Yep, same here. It was then I discovered the amazing meta essays by goldenmoonrose, which made me start to see all the amazing Moffat-meta. I can't even remember how I found them now (probably via who_daily) but they were the turning point.

this episode had this GIGANTIC Clara metaphor - who was a [great-great-great]granddaughter.

Mmmmmm, true. But she could also be a River metaphor (as you say - if in doubt - River!) but I don't see how that works either...

[elisi]

Yep, same here. It was then I discovered the amazing meta essays by goldenmoonrose
And I found promethia and we've not stopped talking since... (remember goldenmoonrose too!)

Mmmmmm, true. But she could also be a River metaphor (as you say - if in doubt - River!) but I don't see how that works either...
Definitely Clara, with echoes of River (impossible astronaut in white), but mostly Clara.

[purplefringe.livejournal.com]

An impossible time-travelling astronaut in white, trapped in a forest in a separate universe, where time is collapsing and everything is backwards (Fear turns out to be Love, three minutes is an Eternity) and obscured by mist (/shadows), a woman who sends a plea for Help across time and space until it reaches the Doctor, psychically (well, empathically, but whatever), a cry for help that reaches across time and space through the power of Love and Family ('Cry for help - with a kiss?") - how can we not think of River?

[promethia_tenk]

I think one of the most interesting things about this season for me is how over-lapping the symbols have all become? I mean, Amy and River did a decent bit of symbol-sharing between themselves, but this season it's like every episode can be read multiple different ways. There's a huge amount of River/Clara overlap, and a decent amount of River/Clara/Amy overlap. And this is in addition to the copious amounts of Doctor/Clara mirroring and the always-present Doctor/River flip-flop.

Who was the woman frozen in the pond? Who does the leaf belong to? Who holds all the songs and all the stories? Who was lost? Who is the trapped time traveler, who is the psychic, and who is the professor? Who is jumping and who is catching and who is falling? Who is a ghost? Who is in heaven and who is in hell? Who killed all the Daleks? And (I suspect relevant) who made the whole universe blow up?

At a guess, the answer is something like "all of the above."

[elisi]

Of course everything is River, but as this season is centered around Clara, River is a secondary mirror? flowsoffire has a great post here about River mirrors, but that all needs reflecting back onto Clara to see what it means now...

[purplefringe.livejournal.com]

Mmm, I saw that post, it's a bit wonderful! But I think Promethia's comment here sums it up - ALL OF THE ABOVE. We are definitely in a hall of mirrors, and I keep walking into things and can't see straight any more.

[elisi]

Can't see the forest for the trees...