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elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2012-12-01 10:51 am
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It's time to decorate...

...and to panic about Christmas cards. (I'm hoping that by some miracle I'll get most of them done this weekend. It's not very likely, but I can hope, right?)

Anyway, here's the BBC Christmas trailer:



(The only downside is that it rather destroys my Oswin theory, but oh well. C'est la vie. I trust the Moff to be clever.)

Favourite youtube comment:
'CLARA. THE DOCTOR IS MARRIED. NO KISSING HIM. BAD DALEK.'
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[personal profile] promethia_tenk 2012-12-01 03:07 pm (UTC)(link)
'CLARA. THE DOCTOR IS MARRIED. NO KISSING HIM. BAD DALEK.'
*dies* Something tells me I am going to be shouting "bad Dalek!" at the screen whenever Clara does anything I don't like from now on.

I had a similar immediate though to you re: "well, that kills that theory . . ." And then came "oh god, I don't even know if it does" *buries face*

moffat what?

Where do the exact boundaries of acceptable accidental time travel incestuousness lie? Cause I don't want to find out, but I don't exactly trust Moff not to show me anyway.

[identity profile] ladymercury-10.livejournal.com 2012-12-01 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Does the Doctor even consider kissing, like, a thing? I feel like if someone tried to tell him, no, you're only allowed to snog people you're allowed to have sex with, he wouldn't understand why those two things necessarily had to be connected at all. :P
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[personal profile] promethia_tenk 2012-12-01 06:53 pm (UTC)(link)
My favorite response to all that goes to Cinderbella: "Maybe someone should bake them 'sorry you accidentally wrote incest cookies' or something."

Thing is, we know people will write Eleven/Clara and I just want to yell STOP, HAVE YOU LEARNED NOTHING?!?!?
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[personal profile] eve11 2012-12-01 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Star Wars got away with it...
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[personal profile] lokifan 2012-12-04 01:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh, yeah. Plus the River reveal came between when I signed up for [community profile] femslash11 and requested Amy/River (among other things) and when the posting dates came. I was on the edge of my seat - thank God I got a brilliant rare-fandom fic instead of Amy/River!

[identity profile] a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com 2012-12-01 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
This was cute, lol!! Thank you for sharing this!! *Giggles*

*Twirls in delight!*

[identity profile] masakochan.livejournal.com 2012-12-01 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
'CLARA. THE DOCTOR IS MARRIED. NO KISSING HIM. BAD DALEK.'

LOL. Though, the amount of people, on tumblr and elsewhere, who are going "Ooooh- River's gonna be piiiiissed." has me thinking- how on earth are people thinking that those two are monogamous? O_o

IDEK- I'll just be over in a happy corner shipping Clara with River, because while I can see her flirting with the Doctor- it's easier imagining her with a crush on River.

[identity profile] lyricwrites.livejournal.com 2012-12-02 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
Though, the amount of people, on tumblr and elsewhere, who are going "Ooooh- River's gonna be piiiiissed." has me thinking- how on earth are people thinking that those two are monogamous? O_o

In fact, there's a certain amount of canonical evidence that they're not, such as the Pond Life short with Mata Hari in it. (Incidentally, am I the only one who thinks that incident probably ended with Mata Hari, River, and an extremely trussed up Doctor? Who would find a very, very creative way to get back at River for it, of course—which might have been her plan all along.)

But, all that to the side, River knows him. Which means that she knows perfectly well that he gets accidentally engaged, and accidentally obsessed over, and accidentally who-knows-what. He'll swear up and down that none of it was actually his fault, it's all down to humans having emotions in various nonsensical directions. She's probably used to it. In fact, she's probably had to rescue him from a harem or two. I don't think a mere kiss would faze her in the slightest.

[identity profile] lyricwrites.livejournal.com 2012-12-02 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
So, that's definitely Clara, then? Because the clip went by so fast I wasn't sure if it was her or Jenny. (Naturally, I wouldn't be a fan of breaking up the Vastra-Jenny relationship, but I can think of plenty of other reasons for the kiss. And even some ways for it to actually get them together.)

Either way, though, I'm convinced of several things: that the Doctor's relationship with Clara is going to be grandfatherly, that Clara's status/existence/species/temporal origin/whatever is going to be complicated, and that the Doctor's reaction to the kiss is going to include delightful amounts of awkward and flail.

[identity profile] lonewytch.livejournal.com 2012-12-02 10:10 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmm. I had the same theory. When I meta'd the eps, there was a lot that pointed in that direction, towards her being related to him. So much.

We only see a tiny bit of the kiss. If it's just a big smacker on the lips (like he gave Rory in Dinosaurs) and is done in an amusing way rather than romantic interest way, then the theory still stands, because I think that would be "acceptable" if she turned out to be related. If it's a snog though, I think it rules out the theory for sure. :(

I think River and 11 are most likely polyamorous, so it doesn't bother me as a River/11 shipper at all. I can tell that i'm going to want to write Clara and 11, and will be tempted by Clara/11, but like promethia said...oh god what if i do it and then she turns out to be his granddaughter.