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elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2011-11-20 04:55 pm
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I HAD A POST ABOUT EoT AND LJ ATE IT!!!! (We - well mostly the Cherub - watched it at lunchtime.)

Impish Girl on Ten's rant after the four knocks (I transcribed it word for word):

"If I was ever a Doctor or a Companion I wouldn't want to end my time like that - with a fit and a paddy."

Mostly my post was about how MISERABLE the Doctor is throughout. It can understand WHY (and I like EoT), but it's a bit of a drag. (Esp in the light of S6. But I have meta brewing on the whole thing, so I shall leave that part alone for now.) Plus the plot makes even less sense than I remember. I mean... stuff just happens. It's amazing, really, particularly all the stuff with the Doctor's mother. It makes NO SENSE. But it's sweet, so I don't really mind. I just marvel.

Finally, then Darcy's reaction to "This song is ending. But the story never ends" never fails to entertain, because he physically recoils from the screen and flails as if to ward off great evil. He obviously manages to wipe it from his mind every time he sees it, but then he has to cope with hearing it anew, and the horribleness of it always gets to him. *is amused*

Anyway, then there is DARLING ELEVENTY and happiness and joy and Geronimoooo! <3


(Just realised that what EoT needed was Spike (or River, since she is the Spike of the 'verse) to stand around and go 'Drama queen!' and/or 'Dear God, you're hard work young!' at all of Ten's histrionics.)
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[personal profile] promethia_tenk 2011-11-20 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, what's the deal with the Doctor's mother talking to Wilf? How does she do it? WHY? How do the Naismith's know about the Master returning? Why is Wilf the only one who can remember the dreams? Why does Rassilon narrate, and from what point in his personal timeline does he do so? I just... It's not MD levels of bad (the continuity is fine), it's just a lot of random stuff tied together.
All excellent questions that I'm pretty sure have no answer. Actually, it might be fun to compare to that little Eleventy skit that the grade schoolers wrote. Which was similar in its making no sense but then also funny.

(Also the EPIC EPIC ANGST is sort of undercut by the fact that... he's not really DYING, y'know? He's going to be FINE. It's such a storm in a teacup. But then Ten always ate up ALL his drama-flakes.)
Still does not bother me as badly in EoT as it does elsewhere. Probably because you know it will stop soon.

If actual angels had appeared at that point and helped the Doctor on his final STRUGGLING walk I wouldn't have been the least surprised.
See, he wasted them on Voyage of the Damned.

MORE CHEESE GROMIT?
HE'S FORGOTTEN THE CRACKERS!
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[personal profile] promethia_tenk 2011-11-20 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Even Rusty, in one of the commentaries, talked about how Rassilon just stands there while Ten points his gun one way and the other. If he'd just killed him (what with having that nifty glove at his disposal), he could have won ten times over...
Lol--and that is why I like Rusty. And, just as a rule of storytelling, the number one reason the good guys ever win is that their enemies are even bigger idiots than they are.

Oh yes. And even at the time, when I was TERRIBLY SAD that Ten was leaving, I was hurrying him on, telling him to just get on with it and die already, because quite frankly I just wanted to put him out of his misery, y'know?
Of course.

Actually, I put off watching EoT for months because I'd grown so sick of the season four/specials ~angst and every single thing I'd read on LJ was talking about how horrible EoT was. The actual episode proved kinda anti-climactic compared to fandom's take on it *g*

Ah but they were rather brilliant there, carrying him up to heaven. I mean the bridge...
I can't tell you how long I've been waiting for the perfect opportunity to use this:

unimpressed

But does he LIKE crackers?
WHO KNOWS! But he's forgotten something! Also, he does go to the moon later . . .
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[personal profile] promethia_tenk 2011-11-21 02:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Long live the idiots?
: P

I was very fond of EoT, yet I knew I was in a TINY minority. (I don't need stuff like plot or logic. Esp not with the heaps of shippiness around...
Basically one of my favorite fannish rants ever (about the threatened death of one of my favorite characters ever) culminates with "Fuck story logic, I need Laura Roslin!" I had to agree. We were not disappointed on either count (though generally I held BSG to a higher standard than that /sheepish).

It is certainly perfect. But what's it from?
Lucille Bluth, from Arrested Development. Perfection in the form of drunken, self-absorbed contempt ; )

Someone should write a story where Eleven meets the mad robot fridge thing they find.
=DDDD <3 <3 Although perhaps something not easily conveyed just in writing?
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[personal profile] promethia_tenk 2011-11-23 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Fuck Story Logic indeed. (To me, Ianto WAS Torchwood. So when he died, the show died too...)
Well, if it's any consolation, by the end of BSG I found myself wishing that Roslin had died earlier and thus been saved what she and the show both became. Which, I seem to recall you expressing something similar w/r/t MD.

[identity profile] sensiblecat.livejournal.com 2011-11-20 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes! There should have been angels so he could be more Hamlet than Hamlet! And his mother should have taken poison and fallen down dead right there for those of us who didn't get the point first time around.

I remember particularly disliking the embarrassing, gratuitous Obama references, too.

[identity profile] 10littlebullets.livejournal.com 2011-11-22 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
*snaps fingers* That's what Vale Decem reminds me of! Once upon a time in choir I got to sing Tomas Luis de Victoria's setting of 'O Vos Omnes,' which is gorgeous and murderously difficult and for some reason Vale Decem brings back memories of it, especially (by utter musical coincidence, I swear) the middle section that goes "Peoples of the earth, attend and see if there be any sorrow like unto my sorrow."

...I would probably go to hell if I fanvidded Ten's man!pain to Renaissance sacred music, wouldn't I?

(Edited because I cannot remember names, ever.)
Edited 2011-11-22 23:04 (UTC)