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elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2010-08-20 06:43 pm
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I don't understand.

So, I read the Riley one-shot.

Overall I liked it, esp liked the interactions between Riley and Sam - that all worked very well. As did the parts with Angel and Whistler except...

He has to choose between Buffy and the world. There's lots of panels devoted to Angel not wanting to turn Buffy into a helpless pawn, and that's all very good. BUT. I thought the whole point of this Twilight thing was the fact that the world was destroyed as they created a new reality? So... how does this work? If he 'chooses the world' and pushes Buffy towards becoming Miss Glowy Twilight and so forth, he creates the circumstances in which the world is ultimately destroyed, yes? And they get their happily ever after, ergo - choosing the world ultimately means *not* choosing the world + getting the girl...

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND!!!

I mean, what's the alternative? He says in issue Twilight #whatever that he did his best to 'minimise' deaths etc, but what could be worse than destroying the whole world and letting the demons back in? I don't get it. Whistler says that if he tells her what's going on they'll 'lose the war side by side, very romantic' and the world will still be destroyed, but by what? If *they* are the catalyst... *throws hands up*
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[personal profile] shapinglight 2010-08-20 06:05 pm (UTC)(link)
What? You were expecting this to make sense?

[identity profile] infinitewhale.livejournal.com 2010-08-20 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)

Not only that, but I guess the PTB = The Universe? But the Universe is the one that wants it destroyed. If Whistler isn't straight-up lying, I don't see how it makes sense.

[identity profile] infinitewhale.livejournal.com 2010-08-20 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)

Oh, I know. He's perfectly happy to accept what's happening and doesn't seem very shocked by the fact that the world is ending.

And if you have seen the preview pages for 36, it's pretty much hinted that Angel knows *something* is going to happen to that world because he's supposed to be taking Buffy out of it. Or something.

[identity profile] infinitewhale.livejournal.com 2010-08-20 06:52 pm (UTC)(link)

I know, it makes no sense whatsoever. The more you think about it, the worse it gets.

[identity profile] beer-good-foamy.livejournal.com 2010-08-20 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, if Whistler is evil and Angel is insane...

[identity profile] beer-good-foamy.livejournal.com 2010-08-20 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
"the universe is evil?"

Well, yeah, that was the plot of #34, wasn't it? Sentient, evil, and deeply stupid.

[identity profile] infinitewhale.livejournal.com 2010-08-20 07:16 pm (UTC)(link)

And perverted.

[identity profile] zanthinegirl.livejournal.com 2010-08-21 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
It's a Moebious Strip of wtf-ery...

I haven't read the comic, but I love that line. It may will be recycled in RL...
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[identity profile] moscow-watcher.livejournal.com 2010-08-20 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
My guess is that Whistler lies to Angel. Or maybe Meltzer and Jane Espenson have different views on what happens in the season. Melzer admitted in an interview that he had written his arc very long ago, before the first issue had been published.

[identity profile] avrelia.livejournal.com 2010-08-20 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I just think that heroin is bad.

[identity profile] avrelia.livejournal.com 2010-08-20 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
My powers of fanwanking totally fail me in regards of comics. I cannot make any sense of it without invoking the drug abuse

[identity profile] paratti.livejournal.com 2010-08-20 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Logic & Whedon products = Not mixy things?
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[personal profile] rahirah 2010-08-20 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
It's very simple:

Angel is really dumb.
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[identity profile] ubi4soft.livejournal.com 2010-08-21 08:32 am (UTC)(link)
No, he's not. He's just upset that the mask is ruining his hair.

[identity profile] avamclean.livejournal.com 2010-08-21 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
The only good thing that's come out of season 8 for me was a plot bunny that had Buffy as the God of the Supernatural'verse.

And I blame you for that bunny since it was one of your reviews of the comics that birthed it. *nods* I gave up on season 8 after the Fray storyline. I would have given up sooner, but I like Fray. :)
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[identity profile] ubi4soft.livejournal.com 2010-08-21 08:36 am (UTC)(link)
It's the same logic with Giles: he didn't tell Buffy about the watcher's myth but he was actively looking for an item capable to kill a god.
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[identity profile] stormwreath.livejournal.com 2010-08-21 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
As best I can work it out, the world is going to be destroyed-and-reborn anyway, regardless of what happens. The question is who gets to be the shaper/guardian deity of the new one.

Whistler and Angel seem to think it's best for everyone if Buffy gets the honour, even if she personally wouldn't want it. Hence the dilemma: "You can do what she'd want, or you can do the right thing."

There probably will be a third alternative, but that's something Buffy will have to triumphantly discover on the last page of the penultimate issue.
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[personal profile] next_to_normal 2010-08-21 02:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I am imagining smoke coming out of your ears as you typed this post. :)