elisi: Living in interesting times is not worth it (touched by awmp)
elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2005-05-13 02:03 pm

A teeny, tiny thought from 'Touched'

Actually I'm not sure why I'm posting this, since I'm sure everyone else figured this out straight away and I'm just very slow and stupid... but since I have a nasty cold that makes my brain function as badly as a lame snail's I'll write it down anyway.


There was one thing that used to bother me about the Buffy/Spike conversation in 'Touched', since I have this thing about applying logic to everything (a bad, bad thing in the Joss-verse, I know!). It was this line:

SPIKE: "This'll change your tune. I came here 'cause I got something to tell you. You were right. Caleb is trying to protect something from you. And I think you were spot on all the way. I think it's at the vineyard. So? You were right. Buffy?"

I thought: But he wasn't there when she did her big speech and wanted to go to the vineyard. And nobody told him *why* they threw Buffy out when he came back... so how did he know? Then of course I had my *duh* moment and realised that of course she had discussed it with him first, before she told the others.
It also sheds more light on Buffy's conversation with Giles:

BUFFY: "You sent away the one person that's been watching my back — again."
GILES: "We're all watching your back."
BUFFY: "Funny... that's not really what it feels like."


When she later unveils her 'lets-go-back-to-the-vineyard' plan, she knows that Spike would have backed her up no matter what. As it is, she has no one to 'watch her back', just as she said.

(Ok, can someone please tell me if this is really, really stupid, because if it is, I'll just delete it!)

[identity profile] deborahc.livejournal.com 2005-05-16 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Elisabeth??? Picture me slapping myself upside the head! I didn't even realize that you were you! I've been following your "Maybe Someday" with much enjoyment and checking back regularly for updates, but until your greeting off my "Touched" comments I'd never looked past "elisi" to recognize my S3 sister.

And you want to know what's funny? When I mentioned in one of my comments that I'd brought up the inconsistency in "Touched" on the board shortly after the episode originally aired, I spelled out "Soulful Spike Society" for you rather than just abbreviating it as the "S3" so you would know what I was talking about.

Sheesh, how oblivious am I?

Anyway, Well Met. Good to see you. I'm very pleased you're you.

Hope you have a nice visit with the parents.



deborah

[identity profile] deborahc.livejournal.com 2005-05-17 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, now that I've embarrassed myself twice can I just jump in a hole and seal it up after me?

I've only been an infrequent visitor to the S3 in the last year so I'm quite out of touch there, but I do recall a S'cubie named Elisabeth. So, when I read your warm greeting, then saw that your name is Elisabeth and noticed that you have a link to the S3 on your Journal, I added one and one and one and got - red in the face. I felt awful thinking (mistaken identity) you had recognized me but I hadn't recognized you, and leapt to the wrong conclusion.

Can we just forget that I ever made an ass out of myself here?

And Wendy, of course. Please tell her hello for me...I wonder if she's heard about our Patti...