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elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2006-03-02 09:50 pm

My Buffy history.

Since some people seem to have misunderstood my 'I came to fandom late' as 'I came to Buffy late' (which isn't surprising really, but that's what I get for writing in a hurry), I thought I'd write down how I fell for the show which is something I've wanted to do anyway (not individual characters, although that would be fun, but I just don't have time - or a clear enough memory).


The first episode I ever saw was 'The Witch' (when first shown in the UK, not on re-runs). I remember being very impressed with the clever plot-twists, and really liked the show. Saw quite a few eps from Season 1, including 'Angel' and 'The Pack', but not 'Prophecy Girl'.
Watched most of S2, although somehow missed out on 'School Hard' (and oh boy did I fall over in many kinds of delight when I finally saw it post-S7). Also never saw 'Killed By Death' which remains the only Buffy episode that I have never seen and know nothing about. Now I was spellbound during 'Becoming I and II, but OMG The Angst!!!
I very distinctly remember deciding that I could live without my heart being torn out on a regular basis and didn't watch the show at all during S3!
Gave the show another shot when S4 came round, liked it very much (and no huuuuuge angst anymore), but missed out on 'Hush' and 'Pangs' (saw 'Something Blue' though and loved it). Missed the last two or three episodes of the season for some reason (holiday? Can't remember).
Another very clear memory is reading that the first episode of S5 was 'Buffy vs. Dracula' and thinking that it sounded too silly a premise and didn't tune in. Next week we *did* watch though and were all 'WTF? Buffy doesn't have a little sister!' and got hooked again. And then 'Fool For Love' happened! (Not much to explain, really, except to say that I never missed an episode after.) Watched all of S5 very happily and was very sad when Buffy died, except of course she had to be brought back!
S6... oh now there was OMWF, that blew both of us away. We recorded it (first time we recorded Buffy btw), and Darcy was so impressed that he bought and downloaded the soundtrack the next day! Still have that disk. Remember the end of 'Smashed' stunning me utterly and causing me to curse myself for not recording it, but figured that they couldn't *possibly* keep the show that mesmerising and *still* didn't record the rest of the season. Of course the rest of the season kept me spellbound. And then came the end of 'Grave'... I can't even remember if I thought that Spike wanted the chip out or not. It's all vanished in the huge impact of OMG Spike got his soul!!!!!! Seriously I spent a great deal of time making up all the most wonderful reunions between Buffy and Spike. (OMG SOUL!)
Then came Season 7 and this time I was sat with my finger on the record button. Finally! (It takes a lot for me to care this much about a TV show, I don't obsess easily.) Loved it all, especially 'Beneath You' and 'Touched' of course (I might just have imagined many a way that Spike would find Buffy post-'Empty Places', but 'Touched' far exceeded any fantasies I could have made up and I have no idea how many times I re-watched his speech to her. [/Spuffy-addict]. And then of course came 'Chosen'. I loved, loved, loved the whole LotR feel of it with the big battle etc. And then of course Spike - and then amulet and the flaming hands and then HE DIED!!! They killled Spike! I'm sure I was in shock for days afterwards. They killed Spike! Spike!!! Even Darcy was shocked. And since we had recently acquired broadband I went online to look stuff up. Find out if JM was actually English and so forth. And in the process discovered that Spike was coming back! [insert ginormous relief] Only he was returning on AtS which I had never watched...

Which leads me rather neatly to my AtS history. Before (or after, I forget) 'Chosen' we saw 'Home'. And it was repeated a few times. It was very puzzling to say the least. And since Spike was going to appear on Angel, and Sky One was showing all of Buffy and Angel in re-runs that summer after S7 finished, one ep of each show a day, I started my marathon recording sessions. Every weekday between 10 and 12 I had to be near a TV (which is kinda hard work when you're moving house) or at least able to set a video, and thus I caught up with all that the Buffy-verse has to offer.
Seeing 'Home' first was of course an odd thing, but it made me immensely curious - particularly of Lilah/Wes. Their scene is so intriguing, and the way their feelings were hidden (but obviously deep) made me continually wonder when they'd get together. (And then when they did all teh sex was cut out because it was shown in the daytime. *spork* Still haven't seen it!). Anyway, watching AtS one episode a day (except for weekends) is a very good thing. Only I have the hardest time remembering episode names, since they all blend together. So, by the time S5 began I was pretty much caught up.

Now whilst catching up on AtS (and re-watching Buffy), I travelled about the internet. First things that hooked me were episode reviews: Billie and Hunter Maxin on tvtome (which was originally Scoopme and has now turned into the horrid tv.com with no reviews at all). Billie has her her own site, but I've been unable to locate Hunter Maxin's stuff. Does anyone know where it is? Also found BAPS, and this guy (whom I'd completely forgotten until I began writing this)! I had a great routine going where I'd watch the days episodes and then go online to read all the various reviews.
At some point I decided to dip my toe in the fanfic waters to see if it was for me. I'm fairly sure the first one was from BAPS but I can't find it. It wasn't very spectaular anyway, just your standard Spike-shanshues-post-Chosen (although with a little help from the resources at W&H) and he and Buffy are blissfully happy. But it was quite well written and the voices very spot-on, so I decided to look around. Which was how I found AllAboutSpike. And my fate was sealed. Especially since the first fic I found was [livejournal.com profile] spikewriter's The Watchers' Diaries: The Apocrypha which was fabulously written, spellbinding and showed just how much it was possible to do with fanfic. Went on to devour everything she'd ever written and she pretty much set the benchmark for writing standards in my head. Also found Kimi, Colleen, Kallysten (whose Sire&Childe saga *completely* ruined my lenten fic-abstinence)(this was spring 2004 btw), Ginmar and... [livejournal.com profile] wisteria_!
[livejournal.com profile] wisteria_ is important, because her site had a link to her Livejournal. And on her Livejournal she had a post extolling the wonders of [livejournal.com profile] the_royal_anna's post on Chosen. So clicked on the link and got knocked over completely. She'd managed to formulate all the things I knew was there but was unable to pinpoint. I went on to run around all of her LJ, finding other gems. AtS S5 was of course showing at the time and she'd written lots of reviews/analysis and basically I was inhaling her stuff as quickly as I could find it. After a couple of months I finally picked up my courage and wrote to her (it was Weds. 26th May 04) and she replied the very same day being sweetness itself. Proceeded to stalk her LJ (which pretty much became a sort of blue-print in my head of how a LJ should be) and slowly ventured further out. Found [livejournal.com profile] fer1213 (and discovered her fic), [livejournal.com profile] sdwolfpup (and discovered this weird thing called 'vids'), [livejournal.com profile] molly_may (and spent man rainy days reading through all her Buffy-reviews), [livejournal.com profile] buttersideup (and bonded over S7 love, urging her on to write an essay! *g*). Probably more, but those are the ones I remember. Also that summer I began my first fic - I'd been thinking that it would be fun to see what would have happened if Riley had turned up during AtS S5 and encountered Spike, but my searches only led me to slash (ick. I've been known to read the occasional S/A piece, but Spike/Riley is unfathomable to me). [ETA: Am now a major Spangel fan - and slasher generally - but *still* can't fathom Spike/Riley. Or Spander for that matter.] And then the more I thought, the more I got little scenarios popping up in my head, including dialogue etc, so in the end I began to write it down. Sent it off to Anna chapter by chapter and she was impossible sweet and encouraging.
Then finally on 2nd of October I took the plunge and set up an LJ for myself, slightly worried that I wouldn't have much to say. [With hindsight: Bwahahahaha! I've not shut up since, but you don't seem to mind] (My First Post, should you be interested.) 6 days later [livejournal.com profile] lillianmorgan started hers and by some divine providence found me - and thus much bonding and daily talk was born! :)

That's pretty much it I think. A few months after getting my LJ I posted my Intervention essay which gave me a sudden influx of friends, and then I began writing more fic which people also seemed to enjoy. And here I am - much too busy, but attached to this place like a limpet! Oh, and [livejournal.com profile] poshcat - you were the very first person who ever lurked in my journal (here. And I'm fairly certain that this was the first post of yours that I ever read. And this was the post that made me friend you! ;)

Nothing more to say, except I've not seen 'Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been' or 'Where The Wild Wild Things Are'. Know what happens, but haven't seen them. I'm sort of saving them up - my little pieces of unseen Buffy-verse. All seen now. *sigh* Still have most of the commentaries to listen to though.

ETA: Darcy has his say.

And now I have no time for answering comments... ah well, I promise to get back to you all!

[identity profile] gamiila.livejournal.com 2006-03-02 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Well - I came to BtVS fandom even later: I came in halfway through Crush...but the next ep proved disappointing and so I didn't watch again until I happened to catch Intervention, and then I was hooked. Ordered all the videos, got caught up, got onto the 'net, met some wonderful people, went to America, watched AtS S5...and then sort of left the active fandom. ;-)
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[personal profile] kathyh 2006-03-02 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
You're viewing history is *completely* different from mine. We were very dull and got hooked by the very first episode when the BBC first started showing it. Then we got in a bit of a muddle when Sky One started showing Season 2 episodes before the BBC had reached that point and after that it was plain sailing straight through! I think we must have started recording it some time in Season 2 as well.

And then of course Spike - and then amulet and the flaming hands and then HE DIED!!! They killled Spike!

I think I would have been hysterical if I hadn't known he was coming back on AtS at that point... Sometimes being spoiled is easier on the nerves!

[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2006-03-02 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Halloween hooked me

[identity profile] zimshan.livejournal.com 2006-03-02 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Aww, I love hearing the history of everyone's Buffy beginnings. You started alot earlier than I did though. Yet you still missed ones in between. Now I don't feel so bad. Hilariously enough, my first episode was 'The Freshman'. I remember missing a bunch of episodes in S4 and then seeing 'Restless' and thinking it was the stupidest hour of tv ever. Like I said, hilarious. I watched everything quite casually until 'Fool For Love'. And even then I missed a eps in between. But 'Beneath You' was what did me in for life. :D

I'll never forget watching the end of 'Chosen'. I knew the news of Spike coming over to Angel. But as soon as I saw him dying, I was convinced it was some big huge rumor Joss put out just so the death would be more shocking. I was devastated. Thinking back on it now, it really is quite funny. Silly me.

[identity profile] poshcat.livejournal.com 2006-03-02 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
What a great post! But you still need to say how you came upon fandom! Name names, baby. ::loves::

[identity profile] petzipellepingo.livejournal.com 2006-03-02 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Oddly enough the very first show I ever watched was School Hard and I remember being highly entertained by the new villain Spike and his sickly girlfriend. I also remember being totally unimpressed by Buffy's boyfriend Angel who seemed lame and useless in that episode.
I guess timing really is everything.
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[personal profile] gillo 2006-03-03 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
I watched the first episode on a Thursday ate 6.45 on BBC2. I was hooked from the moment Darla vamped out, and the theme tune just grabbed me - the contrast between the organ bit and the rest struck me as wonderful. We've never had Sky, so I had to wait till the Beeb put stuff on - and I was so thankful when they started their late night repeats without the cuts.

[identity profile] avrelia.livejournal.com 2006-03-03 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Such a lovely story! and yes, first time going "to look stuff up" at the INternet - scary moment, but defining as well for the fan.

I remember how I went to find out who Anya was, because I wasn't sure she was real - she talked in a strange manner. ;)

[identity profile] pluckyantihero.livejournal.com 2006-03-03 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
I love exchanging stories like this!! Hope you don't mind, but I'm going to tell mine. I came to this fandom much much later than you.
About three or four years ago, I was channel surfing and came across a Buffy rerun. The only full episode I had seen in its original run was "Earshot" and, although I had enjoyed it as popcorn, I hadn't been hooked. This rerun I caught was actually the last, oh, five minutes of "Out of My Mind". I'm sure you all know the scene I'm referring to. WELL. It was totally love at first sight for me and Spike. I've never fallen so hard and fast for anything in my life save oxygen. I bought a ton of video tapes and began recording every single episode. I jumped on the internet and began researching. I spoiled myself silly which is a shame but oh well. I simply had to get more of this Spike fellow!! It took me a while to warm up to the rest of the characters (which is odd cause I'm sucha heroine addict). By the time the reruns started for season seven, I was watching AtS season five. I was buying as much Buffy merchandise as I could and just gobbling up fanfiction.
And that's how I became the well-adjusted person that I am today. The end.

[identity profile] asta77.livejournal.com 2006-03-03 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
I watched 'Welcome to the Hellmouth' and my Sarah Michelle Geller issues (I had watched her on 'General Hospital' and she did her job too well - my hatred of her character spread over to her) ccoupled with boredom made me tune out immediately. I actually gave the show another try with season 4 when I decided to watch 'Angel' and 'Buffy' came on immediately before. I was a casual viewer for all of that season. Found out a friend of my was a closeted fan ;) just as season 5 began and, so we could each have someone to talk to about it, I started watching more intently. Spike's declaraction of love to Buffy in his dream/nightmare in 'Out of My Mind' got me to pay even closer attention (I had a suspicion he was in love with her and I love to be proved right ;). Like all good Spike lovers, 'Fool For Love' got me completely hooked and made me venture onto the internet looking for information about the show, actors, etc. Season 6 brought me to posting online and introduced me to the world of spoilers...for better and worse. ;p

[identity profile] cindergal.livejournal.com 2006-03-03 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I think it was just me who misunderstood. ;-) And I always love to hear how people got into the show. I watched a few episodes of S1, then watched steadily in S2. I really got hooked at Surprise/Innocence, though. I remember thinking, OMG, they just turned the love interest into an evil killer! Who does that? And he's so much cooler this way! ;-) That, combined with my Spike/Dru love meant I was hooked. :-)

I did stop watching for awhile during S3 and S4 - We moved and no longer could get the WB, and then when I finally could tune in, I was not enamored of the Initiative thing and stopped watching again. I had a newborn and kind of forgot about the show, then read in TV Guide one day something about the daring plot line that had Spike falling in love with Buffy. What? Spike? Evil Spike, whom I adored? That's when I entered internet fandom in an effort to catch up on Season 5. And the rest, as they say, is history. :-)

[identity profile] zanthinegirl.livejournal.com 2006-03-03 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
Very interesting-- what a great topic!

I started watching in late season three. I had a couple of friends who were hooked, and had been telling me how wonderful and how well written "Buffy " was, but I'd seen the movie and wasn't tempted. Then I was in the hospital for a while, and bored of of my mind. My friend Kirk loaned me some video tapes of season 3, and i was hooked. Of course, I forced him to explain at length just who all these people are, and what they were doing! I have to admit that it was Oz who really had me hooked. I was very upset when he left (and I still can't believe Willow picked Tara over Oz! Oz! yes, I need to let it go :D) and a little bored with Adam, so i was kind of hit or miss late season 4 and season 5. I'd actually never seen "Fool for Love" until season 7 was on!

I watched "Bargaining" to see how they were going to bring back Buffy, and I think I either watched or recorded every episode after that (except "Beneath me" when my power went off and my tape didn't record!)

I'm with you on watching chosen; I watched with a bunch of friends from work and we were all spoiled. We kept having to reassure ourselves that Spike wasn't real, sincerely dead. "They're bring him back for Angel next fall"! We still sniffled!

[identity profile] zanthinegirl.livejournal.com 2006-03-06 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
lucky you for having RL friends to share the show with. :)
Sure, if you define "share" as "drag into fandom kicking and screaming"! They still remind me of that!

A lot of my co-workers were/are big Buffy fans. I think night-shift in ICU tends to draw a certain type of personality, plus we tend to be up at weird times. At the hospital I worked at in the mid 90s right after college we'd get together and watch "Highlander".

I actually liked the movie too, but I'll admit my fondness was mainly for the silly parts and I knew Peewee Herman wasn't coming to the series...
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[personal profile] molly_may 2006-03-03 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, I knew some of this, but...you've never seen "Killed By Death"??? But it's good! Okay, it's not great. But there's Angelus and Xander and Cordelia stuff to love. And I also didn't realize that you had never seen "School Hard" until after S7, which I imagine was a huge treat.

[identity profile] earth-vexer.livejournal.com 2006-03-03 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I just wrote a longish comment and LJ ate it. :( Let's try that again.

I don't think I could compose as detailed a history as you've done. Clearly your memory is far better than mine. *g* I do recall, however, that I was also introduced to LJ through [livejournal.com profile] _wisteria's fic site (or it might have been [livejournal.com profile] herself_nyc...). And lurking at the morethanspike forum and following fic recs from there is what introduced me to fic.

As for Buffy itself, I resisted watching for the first two seasons for reasons that had only to do with my perception of the show. I thought the movie looked lame and figured that the show's treatment of vampires would be much too superficial for my tastes. I was very much into Anne Rice at the time and measured all vampires against hers. Not anymore. ;)

The other reason is that in Canada the show was aired on the kids TV station YTV. No way was I going to watch a TV show for kids. *g* But, as it happened, I accidentally caught a repeat (probably Passion, Innocence, or Surprise) during the summer after season 2, and realized how completely wrong I had been. I was hooked.

I watched every single episode that YTV repeated that summer, and tried not to miss any more if I could help it. It took a long time before I finally saw School Hard (YTV never repeated it), and it wasn't until I bought the DVD set that I saw all of season 1.

And even though I was very very skeptical that the Angel character could carry his own series, I saw every single Angel ep as they aired, too.

I'm sort of saving them up - my little pieces of unseen Buffy-verse.
Oh, how I envy you. I wish I had bits of unseen Buffyverse. :D

[identity profile] fotada.livejournal.com 2006-03-03 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Great post! Wow, what a memory! I honestly can't remember specifically what episode I first saw. I'm pretty sure it was late in Season 6, because I remember being intrigued by Dark!Willow sucking the words out of the pile of books and into her skin. (And for that reason, I never really liked early season Willow too much, because it seemed very fake since I already knew what a badass she could really be.) FX was also showing reruns of the series, so I started watching those sporadically as well. And then I started taping the episodes, then buying the DVDs, and so on.

Front and center, the character of Spike was what ultimately got me hooked on the show. Fool For Love!!! I started surfing the net looking for info on this guy James Masters or Marsden or something, and stumbled onto stories featuring Buffy and Spike having hot, hot sex. Before this, I had honestly never heard of fanfiction before. I remember reading the stories and thinking, "I don't remember seeing that episode!!" And the stories had all these odd phrases and acronyms attached to them: B/S, h/c, Bangel, Spuffy, slash, etc. I had *no* idea what any of that meant! Finally it clicked that these were stories written by fellow fans of the show. And like you, I discovered LJ because one of the writers kept a journal. And where this obsession with Buffy stops, nobody knows.
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[personal profile] jerusha 2006-03-03 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm always interested to hear how people came to the fandom. I didn't start watching until after S6, although that was partly because we didn't get UPN and partly because I tended to lose interest after S3. My roommate was the one who got me hooked. I think she fell in love with Spike first, and then introduced me to fanfiction. Heh. I think I've outstripped her, as far as obsessions go.
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[personal profile] jerusha 2006-03-06 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
What's not to love about Spike? Seriously, I've never understood people who say that they don't like him. It boggles my mind. *g*

As for being a writing machine, there's something to be said for being single and without kids. I'm amazed at people who manage to have a family and write!

Darcy is watching you...

[identity profile] rowlocks.livejournal.com 2006-03-10 01:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Now honestly, I’ve got to say a couple of things about this, because this is where two worlds diverge completely!

First, I introduced E to the world of Buffy, oh yes I did. I was a fan of the original film long before all this nonsense started! And yes, I know, darling almighty Joss didn’t like it, but tough luck – it was a triumph of early 90’s magic realist cinema, and vies with ‘Dude, where’s my car?’ for the title of ‘Best Film Ever’. So anyway, when the TV show came out, I recall we were apprehensive about it being any good, but it turns out that it was, and anyway, Sarah Michelle Gellar.

Second, I don’t quite get all this ‘first I liked it, then I didn’t want to watch it, then this was confusing, but we liked such and such, so we started watching it again, and then I turned into a drooling fruitcake’! I always liked the show, always enjoyed it, and always felt it made a good evening’s entertainment, and I can’t ever remember either of us expressing any particularly deep consideration of this until the beginnings of E’s transformation into a victim of psychotic fandom.

Anyway, I do still love the show, and despite the snarling obsessive gremlin that has joined our marriage, it has not completely consumed the woman I met a decade ago and innocently shared a bit of light entertainment with. I live in the eternal hope that one day it will be that again.

D

[identity profile] garfpooky.livejournal.com 2007-03-27 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I watched Buffy on and off during high school/early college, and after having seen the whole series from beginning to end, I realized I caught a lot more episodes than I thought I did. :P It's just such a great show...action, adventure, comedy, romance. They deal with so much, but without being overly dramatic. ("Grey's Anatomy", for example, has so much going on...I keep watching to see what's next, but sometimes it feels like there's TOO much going on.) I'd never really gotten into fandoms for anything really. I had never read a single word of fanfic until just this week when I discovered your LJ. :P I had always thought, if it wasn't canon, then it was a moot point. But with Buffy and Spike...their relationship had so much potential and left me wanting so much more that I gladly welcomed fanfic to fill in the gaps. It's been a good time so far. :) (The aforementioned fic was your "Maybe Someday," btw, which I enjoyed immensely. :D)

[identity profile] garfpooky.livejournal.com 2007-03-28 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
*big grin* Thanks for all the recs! :D I just got my hands on the Angel DVDs yesterday and am excited to be back in the Buffyverse. :P

OMG! You mean I was your 'first'? *tries and fails to find expression that fits* Just... wow. Can I ask how you found me? /curious
Indeed! I have you to thank, or blame, lol, for introducing me to the wonderful world of fanfic. :) I don't remember the exact route I took to finding your journal, but I'm pretty sure it started with the spuffyicons community b/c I spent a lot of time there last week going through the archives. So if you're a member and made a post, I probably clicked on your username. If not, then maybe you made a comment and I clicked on your username. If you've never been to the community at all, I probably clicked on another member's username and they were connected to you somehow, lol

And I'm just about to start on the sequel to that story as a matter of fact!
!!! :D