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elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2005-02-18 08:51 pm

Some random S7 Spuffy thoughts

Did some Buffy watching tonight... my wonderful husband took the children round to the grandparents’ house, and then once there decided that they might as well stay there for tea. Cue hours of blissful peace for me. :)

Oh, and I’ve decided that my husband will from now on be known as Mr Darcy... this was [livejournal.com profile] lillianmorgan’s suggestion after seeing our wedding photos, and it fits rather well. He’s wonderful, but when it comes to fandom stuff he gets rather snooty, so ‘Mr Darcy’ will serve very well!

Anyway... on to the scattered thoughts...



Watched ‘Sleeper’ which is one of those near-perfect episodes that I just never tire of. Not much to say really, except that this marks the turning point Spuffy-wise. Up until this episode Buffy is very stand off-ish. It takes her a good while to tell anyone about Spike’s soul and to get him out of the basement. And whereas some just take this as proof that she’s a cold hearted bitch, I think this is quite simply because she’s scared. When it comes to Spike it was always the lack of a soul that prevented her from loving him, from treating him properly. It was her standard response to any suggestions that it could ever work. And then suddenly he takes that excuse away. There is no reason why she shouldn’t be able to love him or be with him, and I think she’s terrified. Because it could all very suddenly be very real.
So until Sleeper she keeps her distance and barely even talks to him. Until she finds out that he might be killing again. The last words of the episode are:
Buffy: “I have to get close to Spike.”

Now I also watched the Spuffy bits of ‘Potential’ and ‘The Killer In Me’. In ‘Potential’ the attraction between Buffy and Spike is very obvious (and is made very obvious): the way she tries to look at his injuries and the Potentials thinking it’s ‘hot’, the way she tries to convince herself that it’s ‘totally over’ when she’s supposed to be counselling Amanda, that line about Spike’s crypt being ‘comfy’... her mind is so going places it shouldn’t.

In ‘The Killer In Me’ on the other hand, she’s caring for Spike. The scene where he’s lying on the cot, and they’re trying to figure out what to do... it has to be one of the sweetest moments in the whole of the season. *sigh* and *sniff*

Also watched the very beginning and end of ‘First Date’, and what always strikes me is the end of the fight - Buffy kills the demon and then rushes to Spike’s side. Not Xander, who was the one she came to save and who got stabbed. No she goes to Spike first, and only after making sure that he’s ok does she worry about Xander. And Wood picks up on this straight away! That little triangle of looks at the end...

Not to mention that Buffy actually admits to needing Spike later on - and this of course refers back to the beginning of the episode, and Buffy’s conversation with Giles. Now, I love their talk - it starts out being about Buffy’s decision to remove the chip, but very quickly turns into a discussion about Buffy and Spike and their relationship. And Giles very obviously thinks that this is Angel all over again... Buffy is making decisions with her heart and not her mind (as she admits to Spike). And my favourite line? “I want more for you.” Giles very obviously sees the relationship as a long-term one, and in this case there is no curse to stop Buffy from committing to something in the future. The seeds for LMPTM are planted right here!

Basically I just love the quitness of S7 Spuffy - it's all in the looks and the touches and the small things. The way Buffy always turns to Spike first... the way they finish each other's sentences... I'm just a sappy, romantic shipper. :)

Ok, will stop now and go downstairs to be snuggle with Mr Darcy. Sorry about spelling mistakes etc, but this was written very quickly and mostly for my own benefit.

[identity profile] zanthinegirl.livejournal.com 2005-02-20 07:13 am (UTC)(link)
What struck me while watching the season 7 DVDs was how well it all flowed together. I remember being a little irritated at the time by what seemed to me to be choppy storytelling; but viewing all the episodes one after the other they worked much better. I agree re: Spike and Buffy's growing relationship. My roommate at the time was in the process of being converted to the wonder of BTVS, and hadn't seen much of anything beyond the first season. We usually watched season 7 episodes together, and i was always pointing out Spuffy moments-- she started out leaning BA. I think she'd pretty much moved to the light by the end of the series; she took the big Angel kiss very hard!

[identity profile] zimshan.livejournal.com 2005-02-21 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Although alot of people have said that S3 flowed the best, IMO no season flowed as nicely as S7. The character progression was just amazing, and I loved every minute of it. I think it was Joss who said in one of the commentaries that the whole season was like one long series finale. So lucky that he got a chance to do something like that...to bad the same was able to be done in Angel...

[identity profile] zanthinegirl.livejournal.com 2005-02-21 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm... It's been a long time since I watched season three. That's the season I started watching, and I watched the whole thing back when the DVDs came out, but it's one I don't actually own. I recently bought season two (found it in a used record store) and have been re-watchng that; I've noticed a LOT of themes from season three and even 4-5 in that one. And I have to say that the The mayor is probably my favorite villain!

I agree though re: season 7. I was pleasantly surprised at how well it all flowed together. I haven't bought Angel 5 yet; I'm actually debating going out this afternoon and picking it up. Frankly this conversation is giving me a mental excuse; MUST see how well that one flows!