There are few things that can't be fixed with really good fic!

[elisi]

Re. my post about the pre-views... it was just a gut-reaction. I want to like the comics, really truly, I wish I went 'Squee' instead of 'Eeeek', but... Currently I just want the first story to be over so we can get to Faith. Surely a Faith story can't go wrong?

Aaaaanyway, I think I've worked something out - Joss is turning into George Lucas! Not literally of course (what an awful idea!), but he's revisiting a 'verse we thought he'd left. OK so he's doing sequels, not prequels, and they're only comics - but he obviously wants to go back to the originals and fix stuff a little and change bits around and kinda messing up the continuity. Sorry guys - we all know Han shot first. (Actually, I just tried to imagine the new Star Wars films as comics - now there's a scary thought! The best thing by far with the S8 comics is the dialogue, and Mr Lucas can't write it for love nor money!)

Did I have a point there? I'm not sure. My head hurts, but I've had some Toblerone and read some truly excellent fic, so I'll just pimp and let you go enjoy. Comics Schmomics - let Joss play with his shiny new toy - *my* show ended after 7 seasons! Actually, you know what? I think I've moved on. I love Buffy, but the show is over. It's dead and buried and I'm OK with that. Bringing it back just reminds me a leetle of this...

DOC: It's a tricky spell, girl. I can't say for sure your mother will come back exactly like she was. Sometimes these ... things ... get a little off.
DAWN: But she'll still be my mother. Won't she?
DOC: More or less.


So - you should all go read Man's Best Friend by tkp. PG-13, post-NFA, gen-ish, Angel, Spike, Nina, Illyria, and a puppy. Beautifully (and oh so very cleverly) written, funny, poignant, characters that leap off the page and right into your heart... I'm trying and failing to adequately explain how good it is, so just give it a try, OK? Trust me.

Comments

[zanthinegirl.livejournal.com]

Hee-- Joss is turning into George Lucas! That's it exactly! I have to say I'm enjoying the comics so far, but not in any life-changing sense. And I'm trying hard to enjoy thinking about the plot holes without going a little wacky, but (for example) Willow not actually killing Warren is definitely Han shooting second!

Second the rec for Man's Best Friend! Wow! Just, Wow!

[rhiannonhero.livejournal.com]

Willow not actually killing Warren is definitely Han shooting second

*boggles* He's trying to back out of Willow killing Warren???? Holy shit. I've lost respect for him now.

[zanthinegirl.livejournal.com]

It's in the preview/ spoiler for the next episode/ comic! But of course we only have a couple of pages, and so we don't actually know the context. Or if it's really Warren, or if he's telling the truth about the lack of death thing... ::clings to ever fainter hope::

[elisi]

Well not quite... apparently Amy magiced him away in that flash of light when Willow said 'bored now'. He's now a skinless wonder. It's all rather convoluted and bizarre and ridiculous. *shrugs* Joss can say the comics are canon until he's blue in the face, but that still don't make it so!

[owenthurman.livejournal.com]

apparently Amy magiced him away in that flash of light when Willow said 'bored now'

As I point out in my most recent LJ, this is utterly incompatible with the sequence of occurrences in Villains. Willow turns back to Warren and burns him deliberately.

[mikeygs.livejournal.com]

Not to mention Warren being being dead and the First taking is form is pretty freaking important to the whole of the S7 plot.

[elisi]

Well he claims that he is no longer human. Whatever that means. Honestly I just don't care anymore. It's just too ridiculous!

[mikeygs.livejournal.com]

It's very hokey. And lame. That's the worst. Buffy was never lame.

But in the end, it's not real anyway, Jossy McNotcanonpants.

[elisi]

That's the worst. Buffy was never lame.
*nods sadly* I know some people who are all excited about it, but my reaction is just wtf? I'm still praying very hard that it's all some sort of ruse or other, a fakeout, an Ethan-trick... something!

But in the end, it's not real anyway, Jossy McNotcanonpants.
Indeed. See Doc quote.

[elisi]

Hee-- Joss is turning into George Lucas! That's it exactly!
I was very pleased when I thought of that analogy! ;)

Willow not actually killing Warren is definitely Han shooting second!
Yup! The thing is, I don't mind in-show ret-cons (see S4 of AtS), but post-show ret-cons I'm never going to accept.

Wow! Just, Wow!
Wonderful isn't it? And *so* well written! Why can't the comics be that good?

[rhiannonhero.livejournal.com]

I totally agree with you about Buffy being over. Someone you linked to said in their post, "I want to hear what Joss has to say." And, well, I don't. Ha! I thought he told the story and now he should walk away. I almost think of the comics as fanfic--where Joss is a fan of his own universe.

[elisi]

And, well, I don't. Ha!
Heh. I'm mildly curious, which is why I've been reading, but it really is like glorified fanfic. And honestly I've read fanfic that's far superior. Still - some of it's fun! *g* ::points to icon::

[tkp.livejournal.com]

Thanks so much for the rec. I'm having so much fun with it that I'm glad others are too.

I've been wanting to put together meta for *months* about the nature of canon and about how a creator can say something's canon as much as he likes but if the fans don't glom on it's not *their* canon and if other fans do like the new stuff fandoms can split and have separate canons for branching fandoms; my main support for this theory was George Lucas and his little...projects. The thing was, I thought some of the dialogue *was* good in the OT. I mean, who you calling scruffy-looking?

But anyway so far I'm *really* liking the comics. I've only read the first two. I'll be upset if Willow didn't kill Warren, but right now I'm busy having faith. Oooh, and I'm waiting for the Faith arc, too!

[elisi]

I'm having so much fun with it that I'm glad others are too.
Oh I know that feeling! :) And it was totally my pleasure - I love pimping.

I've been wanting to put together meta for *months* about the nature of canon
Blue Sand! *g* Or the comics are like the apocrypha. And I've got high hopes for Faith. :)

my main support for this theory was George Lucas and his little...projects.
Great minds think alike?

The thing was, I thought some of the dialogue *was* good in the OT. I mean, who you calling scruffy-looking?
I'm not saying it was all terrible. But Joss' special talent is sizzling dialogue, and Lucas's can fall rather flat when left to his own devices.

[ruuger]

Joss is turning into George Lucas! Not literally of course

Or is he?!!!!



... I really have no excuse, except that I already had Paint Shop Pro open. And I had a really long day at work.

But if Joss is Lucas, then who's Jar Jar?

[elisi]

... I really have no excuse, except that I already had Paint Shop Pro open. And I had a really long day at work.
Those are perfectly good excuses! *sporfles*

But if Joss is Lucas, then who's Jar Jar?
Andrew!

Also - why can't I spell? *facepalm*

[ringthebells]

Oh, the Doc quote is perfect!!!

[elisi]

Thank you. I was very pleased with it myself. ;)

[avrelia.livejournal.com]

Joss is turning into George Lucas

Aaaaah! ::runs away::

That's probably the reason why I can't bring myself to read comics (I am saving them though!) yet. It's too dangerous for my sanity, already on precarious balance due to hormons and work...

[elisi]

It's too dangerous for my sanity, already on precarious balance due to hormons and work...
Well so far you've not missed anything. Except a hysterical 3some fantasy, but there are plenty of those in fic. Go read the stories I've pimped - they'll be good for you! :)

[jamalov29.livejournal.com]

You know like I said I would read the beginning of the fic you highly recommended , by girlpire ? I meant to do so yesterday but then I decided to also try Man 's best friend , and I did enjoy greatly the first two chapters.
I agree with your opinion : it's beautifully written , a lovely combination of humor and feelings that go deeper . Her dialogs are superb and convincing.
I like Spike and Angel bantering , it reminds me of the show. Her Nina's voice is nice , too.

It just felt 'bizarre' to read about Spike not thinking of Buffy. :) I'm going to post a litle something about my impressions.

Girlpire' s fic will be next on my list.

[elisi]

I meant to do so yesterday but then I decided to also try Man 's best friend , and I did enjoy greatly the first two chapters.
Well I can't fault you for that! Truly wonderful story, and poor Angel is just so... I hesitate to use the word 'broken', but he's just out of kilter. And the writing puts that across so very beautifully.

It just felt 'bizarre' to read about Spike not thinking of Buffy. :)
Well there is at least one mention in chapter 3! :)

And I saw your post - might reply later if I can find the time and sort out my thoughts. It's a complicated topic.

Girlpire' s fic will be next on my list.
*bounces* I'm really, really looking forward to seeing what you think. I mean the Spuffiest of Spuffy writers, rahirah, got a Spangel shipper to like her Bangel smut... everything is up in the air! ;)