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You should watch this movie...
Just returned from the cinema, and this was more than worth the ridiculous amount of money it costs to see a movie these days!! Marvel eat your heart out, the sheer amount of ideas and concepts in this movie are off the chart. <3
Darcy's comment: 'It's playing with the basic concept of premise in the midst of infinity. Also Nietzsche can go f•ck himself.'
I think it's described as a sc-fi drama comedy, which is about right. Also definite HHGTTG vibes. There is a lot of silliness, which is lovely.
(Shorter pitch: Michelle Yeoh + multiverse)
To summarise: It's really, really, clever, but with heart. The advice I picked up was: Read/watch nothing beforehand, go in blind and just get blown away. I will repeat this advice.
ETA: Tried to find it, and yes, it was Neil Gaiman! :)
I just saw Everything Everywhere All At Once. See it in a cinema if you can. See it knowing nothing if you can. Best, most wonderful film I’ve seen in ages. Thank you A24 Films for screening it for me. Thank you to everyone who made it. Thank you Michelle Yeoh for existing. pic.twitter.com/5Gd4UQ6s3z
— Neil Gaiman (@neilhimself) April 17, 2022
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I've never gone into the cinema; except possibly when I was a kid, without having an idea of what I might see. A movie has to intrigue me before I will pay money to see it; got pretty darn good at figuring out which movies I would like; which might be good to take a chance on and which to leave alone. Proud to say I can count on the fingers of one hand the times I got it wrong, and on one of those occasions I've since seen the film again and appreciated it because my life was in a different place.
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Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. (It was late, I was tired.) With hindsight maybe I should just have put 'Douglas Adams'. ;)
I've never gone into the cinema; except possibly when I was a kid, without having an idea of what I might see. A movie has to intrigue me before I will pay money to see it
Makes sense - and considering how rarely we go to the cinema I make sure it's something worth seeing. But this recommendation came via Neil Gaiman (I have now found the tweet & added it to the post), so I took it on trust. :) Plus 'Michelle Yeoh + multiverse' is something I can't pass up.
Proud to say I can count on the fingers of one hand the times I got it wrong, and on one of those occasions I've since seen the film again and appreciated it because my life was in a different place.
Nice!!
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For some reason it takes me too long to remember the letters for something like that; always referred to it as Hitch-hikers :-)
And I did see the movie in the cinema; hated it. THAT was not Marvin!
Try to forget the movie exists, same way I try to forget Paul McGann was ever The Doctor. Doesn't work, but I try ;-)
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Oh I do too, if I'm talking to someone. :)
And I did see the movie in the cinema; hated it. THAT was not Marvin!
This would be one of those times where your guidelines failed you, I presume... Not that I'm a fan of the movie. Mind you, Hitch-hikers feels a bit like Doctor Who? In that there are so many different versions, that none are the definitive one. They all just co-exist in slightly different realities.
Try to forget the movie exists, same way I try to forget Paul McGann was ever The Doctor. Doesn't work, but I try ;-)
Oooh why you no like Paul McGann? I mean, the movie was rubbish, but that's a bit like judging the Fourth Doctor purely on Destiny of the Daleks or something.
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Didn't like the idea of Peter Capaldi as The Doctor; mostly because he'd never done anything (apart from one satirical radio show) that I'd like, but he became the role; saying that as someone who's seen a mere handful of eps and a smattering of scenes.
Of course I didn't like Peter Davison at first; in fact it was his very last story where I finally 'got' the way he was playing the role and, until Matt Smith came along, he became my favorite Doctor.
But that whole God of Pain! thing was a major contributor as to why I got lost from Doctor Who; mean four truly incredibly brilliant characters and actors in the roles of Doctor/Amy/Rory/River and I felt unable to watch it anymore part way through that sixth season.
And the going for the pain was the reason; beyond even the the storyline which I loathed. Fact is Doctor Who has become just another TV show, not something I 'HAD' to watch. Looking back all the elements that drove me away were there in Peter Davison & Colin Baker; even earlier probably, but they had come to drive the show ~ this is only my feelings about it of course.
I can actually remember feeling actual pain at what was happening to Colin Baker; saw him at a small convention before he'd actually appeared onscreen and I don't think I've ever seen anyone so excited about playing a part, but the way the character was written, the stories and the way the BBC were treating him made me so bad for him.
Sylvester McCoy was a bit of an outlier; The Doctor as he played him had a sinister air about him; no sense of the pain or loneliness that I remember and he had Ace; his Doctor actually made Bonnie Langford cool, and the Black actor I remembered from a role as a nurse in a series called Angels as a decent attempt to find a replacement for The Brigadier; also had a young (Chinese, I think she was) actor who I would have loved to see travel with The Doctor and Ace.
Think JNT wanted to have a woman follow Sylvester McCoy as The Doctor. Hated the way the show just dismissed Liz Shaw and made her dress in a short skirt; love that Tom Baker insisted that Jo Grant be replaced by an intelligent woman who challenged The Doctor, and we got Sarah-Jane who is almost universally recognised as the favourite/greates companion ever, though S5's Amy/Rory came close and; even though I've never seen a full episode in one case, and only one in the other, I think I would really have liked Bill & Clara, and I KNOW I loved Yaz & Grace (though the latter does not count).
I did like Peri a lot, but she never really got a chance to grow. But, back to Paul McGann I hate, but his Doctor; like Christopher Ecclestone they were just a bad fit as The Doctor; never would have seen Richard E. Grant as The Doctor, but the one story he got to do was good enough to have him become The Doctor.
In the modern incarnation Matt Smith WAS The Doctor almost from the first scene, and Jodie Whittaker WAS the character even faster. Shouldn't really count the first four as I grew up with them, but Tom Baker had the same effect because, even though Peter Davison became my favourite; Tom Baker is the definitive one. You could, in the modern context, put Peter Capaldi & Matt Smith/Jodie Whittaker in those places.
I think David Tennant is the greatest actor of his generation, and undoubtedly the most successful of the modern Doctors, and despite being in three of my favourite eps of the modern era, he just didn't do it for me as The Doctor.
But in all cases, the magic is gone. I do wonder, if the show had continued on during it's 'non-cancellation' whether that would have happened anyway. Something Paula Deming said about Moffat and his writing made me think when I was watching some of the S5 reactions recently; about his 'going for the pain' made me realise that was maybe the biggest factor, in that Doctor Who was written to be a kids show, that adult could enjoy; still is marketed as that, but it's really not a Kid's show anymore; scary would be fine, but pain is something you write for an adult's show.
Anyway, somewhere between Colin Baker and part way in David Tennant's second season the magic died and, because it was Doctor Who, I just didn't notice. Nothing to do with any of the actors, but Paul McGann represents the first time I can recall seeing Doctor Who and thinking, 'this is not Doctor Who'.
It had become a TV show instead of a magical phenomenon.
That same effect has happened with Star Trek. Somewhere, the magic had been Whedon'd and I lost my sense of 'I can't miss this' and 'maybe I'll catch up with it some time.
Woah, that got a bit meta didn't it? If only I could turn my thoughts into stories...
Nina Sosanya for The Doctor! :-)
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Fair nuff. ;) I believe his Big Finish listeners adore him.
David Tennant's Doctor was more a case of the way (how was it you said it?) they were written as The God of Pain!
Yup, he's all over angst. (Or, as someone once put it: 'The Lonely Angel Storm at the Oncoming Fire of the Universe'.) *pets Ten*
Didn't like the idea of Peter Capaldi as The Doctor; mostly because he'd never done anything (apart from one satirical radio show) that I'd like, but he became the role; saying that as someone who's seen a mere handful of eps and a smattering of scenes.
Twelve is interesting, because his era (well, S8 and 9) were very very introspective and Twelve was quite brusque and stand-off-ish (a bit like Six), but underneath he was the sweetest thing, and in S10 he was just lovely. <3 Absolutely one of my favourite Doctors.
And the going for the pain was the reason; beyond even the the storyline which I loathed. Fact is Doctor Who has become just another TV show, not something I 'HAD' to watch. Looking back all the elements that drove me away were there in Peter Davison & Colin Baker; even earlier probably, but they had come to drive the show ~ this is only my feelings about it of course.
It's funny what will hook - or not. Because I have watched Thirteen more or less out of duty. (more further down)
I can actually remember feeling actual pain at what was happening to Colin Baker
He is the only Doctor I have met and I am determined to meet him again - because when we met I hadn't watched any of his episodes yet, but now I have. So I would love to talk to him and tell him how much I enjoyed his era. (And I did!! I love Six.)
Sylvester McCoy was a bit of an outlier; The Doctor as he played him had a sinister air about him; no sense of the pain or loneliness that I remember and he had Ace
Oh I love him. And he reminds me mostly of Eleven, tbh. Eleven is older and sillier, but they both have that thing of playing the clown while plotting eleven-dimensional chess at the same time.
love that Tom Baker insisted that Jo Grant be replaced by an intelligent woman who challenged The Doctor, and we got Sarah-Jane who is almost universally recognised as the favourite/greates companion ever,
Four had brilliant companions throughout - Sarah Jane, then Leela, then Romana. All of them top-tier! (Not to say anything against any other companions, I love them all. But Four was such a force of nature, he needed companions to push back.)
Something Paula Deming said about Moffat and his writing made me think when I was watching some of the S5 reactions recently; about his 'going for the pain' made me realise that was maybe the biggest factor, in that Doctor Who was written to be a kids show, that adult could enjoy; still is marketed as that, but it's really not a Kid's show anymore; scary would be fine, but pain is something you write for an adult's show.
I'd not lay that at Moffat's feet - RTD was definitely the one to trowel on the pain. S5 and S6 both had wonderfully happy endings. Mid S7 was sad because the Ponds died/left, but then Clara came on board and when she 'died' she got her own TARDIS and a girlfriend. Bill also 'died' and then carried on happily.
All that said, then yes, the show often gets too grown-up. Although having suffered through the Fifth Doctor's last season, then I can't say it's a new thing. (I know everyone loves The Caves of Androzani, but I disliked it vehemently. Most of it was just straight up depressing.)
but Paul McGann represents the first time I can recall seeing Doctor Who and thinking, 'this is not Doctor Who'.
Poor Eight. But then the movie was awful...
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Sad really, as Jodie Whittaker WAS The Doctor even faster than Matt Smith; only two since the new incarnation ~ except for Richard E. Grant I suppose, that felt like the character I loved.
See this is really weird, because I 100% agree that Jodie embodies the role effortlessly. But it's sort of the opposite of this?
'Of course I didn't like Peter Davison at first; in fact it was his very last story where I finally 'got' the way he was playing the role and, until Matt Smith came along, he became my favorite Doctor.'
It's not that I dislike her - it's just that her Doctor just feels 'off'. Like she is from a couple of universes over. She's a Doctor, but not the one I've been watching for the past however many years. I wish I could have seen someone else write for her, they might have made her somehow... fit. It's a shame, but I simply don't really care about her the way I wish I did.
Woah, that got a bit meta didn't it? If only I could turn my thoughts into stories...
Yeah, mammoth comment!!
Nina Sosanya for The Doctor! :-)
Hear hear! Fifteenth Doctor sounds good, yes?
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Though it IS weird to realise that the middle-aged dad is played by Indiana Jones' annoying sidekick from Temple Of Doom. I don't want my childhood's child actors to be my age now.
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Yes, this! Everything was wonderful.
Michelle Yeoh rocks. Literally.
I C WAT U DID THAR! :D
Though it IS weird to realise that the middle-aged dad is played by Indiana Jones' annoying sidekick from Temple Of Doom. I don't want my childhood's child actors to be my age now.
Petition to stop time?
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Got the DVD for that as soon as I saw it on sale.
Have downloaded copies of both now; both very different films one set on the last day before the outbreak of war in 1939; the other set in the early days of cinema, before The Great War; at least the US joining the fray.
The Fall is by far the more spectacular, but they're both incredible films, though not as widely known as they deserve.
kerk
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Had never heard of either. I shall keep a lookout, thank you!
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It is so good. :)
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*HUGS*
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First time; at least after this post, that I heard of the movie (knew Michelle Yeoh had a movie out, but knew nothing other than that) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXpzSS5cEIU
Not watched it as I have no way of seeing the movie; legally anyway.
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And there's another one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HfjZzKVI7o
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I just want to sort of sit with it, if that makes sense?
However I am glad others are enjoying it also. :)
Not watched it as I have no way of seeing the movie; legally anyway.
I am sure there will be ways and means, at some point!