Go Joss!

[elisi]

"How sick am I of Noxon-bashing? Enough to break my rule of silence, certainly. I've had so many people rag on her for aspects of the show I developed, or praise me for things she came up with. She's been a vital part of everything people love about Buffy since she overhauled the halloween script in season two. She's as good a story-breaker as I've ever worked with. And she's a leader.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion, Vmars. You are uninformed and rude. That's mine."

joss

http://whedonesque.com/comments/12711


Damn straight! Thank you Joss!

(Snagged from frelling_tralk)

ETA: This of course also ties in with The Educated Fangirl's Guide To The Spike Wars!

Comments

[sp23.livejournal.com]

Well, I still have a lot of issues with S6, but I blame Joss just as much as Marti because, yes, he had to approve whatever the writers came up with. I also blame Douglas Petrie for the gawd-awful "The Doctor/demon eggs" plot in As You Were.

I'm curious how I'm going to feel about S6 when I finally get to it in my planned rewatch of the series.

[fangfaceandrea.livejournal.com]

I also blame Douglas Petrie for the gawd-awful "The Doctor/demon eggs" plot in As You Were.
word.
He really had an unatural love for all things Riley.

[elisi]

::points to icon::

[fangfaceandrea.livejournal.com]

Heee

It's actually kind of amusing hearing him talk about Riley and his awsome/coolness when he first appears as a soldier on The initiative. The man's such a Fangirl.

[sp23.livejournal.com]

Oh, Dude, really. I was listening to his DVD commentary for whatever Riley episode it was, and you could practically hear him masturbating while he talked about Marc Blucas. I nearly hurled. :)

[elisi]

Ah, I love S6... And AYW is - OK it's bad. Mostly this is because it's so *clumsy*, which annoys me no end. And Spike is not and never was The Doctor, that much is clear at least... (Read peasant_'s excellent analysis!)

Here's to hoping you'll like S6 this time. :)

[sp23.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I'm thinking because I *know* what's going to happen I'll just be able to sit back and watch it to see the twists and turns of everyone's breakdowns without hoping for something that'll never come. I know, though, that I'm still going to fast forward through the interminable and awful runaway magic scene with Willow and Amy in The Bronze in Smashed. And that has nothing to do with wanting to get back to the knocking-down-the-house sex scenes. ;P

[elisi]

I'm thinking because I *know* what's going to happen I'll just be able to sit back and watch it to see the twists and turns of everyone's breakdowns without hoping for something that'll never come
That's the attitude! (And I loved it from the start, so it's easy for me!)

[rahirah]

Quite. Though I think I have more issues with S7 - I see S6 as ambitious but flawed. But while I don't think Marti did a very good job as showrunner, there's not a lot of point in going on about it now. And truly, the buck stops with Joss.

[sp23.livejournal.com]

I had high hopes for season 7, but it just went nowhere, except, and this is a big exception, for the Spike arc. His arc, the way he fought through his madness, fought off the first evil, fought to become his own man (always aided by Buffy. I will give her her props here), made the season worthwhile to me. But for anything else, it just didn't add up to what we'd come to expect from BtVS, I don't think.

[rahirah]

Exactly. Disappointed as I was in the way they handled S/B, from a storytelling perspective I was far, far more disappointed in the way the rest of the characters were left dangling. (And in the way the First Evil plotline just fell apart like wet cardboard.) At least S & B had a story.

[elisi]

*pulls out soapbox*

Now I love S7, and not just because of Buffy and Spike (although that might be my favourite part). I think The First Evil is one of the most interesting villains the show has ever produced (Angelus and The Mayor were more fun of course), because it was a villain inside themselves, thus carrying on the themes and stories from S6 beautifully. And thematically and metaphorically S7 is probably the richest of them all. I re-watched it recently and it was a joy to do so. (That's not to say that there aren't problems, or that sometimes it doesn't falter, but that can be said of all the other seasons too. To take an obvious example, Faith in S3 is all over the place, being pushed into whatever role the writers need her for.)

[elisi]

Oh but I *love* S7 - it is deep and rich and wonderfully textured, and The First is the perfect villain for carrying on the character's journeys from S6. :)