27 June 2006
I think I should probably start this by discouraging people. Because this is terribly, terribly long, very rambly and I’m not sure it all makes sense - also it’s very much a collection of my thoughts, so a lot of it is just opinions and speculation, going over well known stuff (it’s my LJ, I’ll waffle if I want to! *g*).
Another thing that I feel like pointing out, is that as a fan I was always easy to please. I liked Buffy and I enjoyed watching it. I never had any set ideas of where I wanted the show to go or what I ‘needed’ to see happen. I wanted to be taken on a journey and if it suddenly veered of to the left I found it an added thrill. So the argument of ‘but it should have happened in such and such a way instead of what we got’ never made much sense to me. It was never ‘my show’ in that sense (and thank goodness for that because Joss is a far, far better story teller than I could ever hope to be), I was just a grateful viewer.
Now about this post: it ties back to![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
peasant_’s post a few weeks ago, which asked why do some people feel so strongly about soulless redemption? There were a lot of fascinating replies, but rahirah’s comment was possibly the most comprehensive and it just kept going in circles in my head until I began writing my thoughts down, using her comment as a jumping off point (her comments in bold). Thank you Barb! :)
So this is sort of the opposite (an explanation of why I think the soul was so important) so I’m bound to disagree a fair bit I’m afraid. But a lot of it is quite simply because we have different perspectives and want different things from our stories. Having thought about it, I think it comes down to who our Spike is!
Also I vainly tried to impose some sort of structure on this monstrosity: first come my responses to rahirah’s comments and then various musings on the nature of souls and redemption and stuff. If you get to the end I’ll give you a sticker! *g*
( Souls and redemption in the Buffy verse )
Another thing that I feel like pointing out, is that as a fan I was always easy to please. I liked Buffy and I enjoyed watching it. I never had any set ideas of where I wanted the show to go or what I ‘needed’ to see happen. I wanted to be taken on a journey and if it suddenly veered of to the left I found it an added thrill. So the argument of ‘but it should have happened in such and such a way instead of what we got’ never made much sense to me. It was never ‘my show’ in that sense (and thank goodness for that because Joss is a far, far better story teller than I could ever hope to be), I was just a grateful viewer.
Now about this post: it ties back to
peasant_’s post a few weeks ago, which asked why do some people feel so strongly about soulless redemption? There were a lot of fascinating replies, but rahirah’s comment was possibly the most comprehensive and it just kept going in circles in my head until I began writing my thoughts down, using her comment as a jumping off point (her comments in bold). Thank you Barb! :) So this is sort of the opposite (an explanation of why I think the soul was so important) so I’m bound to disagree a fair bit I’m afraid. But a lot of it is quite simply because we have different perspectives and want different things from our stories. Having thought about it, I think it comes down to who our Spike is!
Also I vainly tried to impose some sort of structure on this monstrosity: first come my responses to rahirah’s comments and then various musings on the nature of souls and redemption and stuff. If you get to the end I’ll give you a sticker! *g*
( Souls and redemption in the Buffy verse )
I think I should probably start this by discouraging people. Because this is terribly, terribly long, very rambly and I’m not sure it all makes sense - also it’s very much a collection of my thoughts, so a lot of it is just opinions and speculation, going over well known stuff (it’s my LJ, I’ll waffle if I want to! *g*).
Another thing that I feel like pointing out, is that as a fan I was always easy to please. I liked Buffy and I enjoyed watching it. I never had any set ideas of where I wanted the show to go or what I ‘needed’ to see happen. I wanted to be taken on a journey and if it suddenly veered of to the left I found it an added thrill. So the argument of ‘but it should have happened in such and such a way instead of what we got’ never made much sense to me. It was never ‘my show’ in that sense (and thank goodness for that because Joss is a far, far better story teller than I could ever hope to be), I was just a grateful viewer.
Now about this post: it ties back topeasant_’s post a few weeks ago, which asked why do some people feel so strongly about soulless redemption? There were a lot of fascinating replies, but rahirah’s comment was possibly the most comprehensive and it just kept going in circles in my head until I began writing my thoughts down, using her comment as a jumping off point (her comments in bold). Thank you Barb! :)
So this is sort of the opposite (an explanation of why I think the soul was so important) so I’m bound to disagree a fair bit I’m afraid. But a lot of it is quite simply because we have different perspectives and want different things from our stories. Having thought about it, I think it comes down to who our Spike is!
Also I vainly tried to impose some sort of structure on this monstrosity: first come my responses to rahirah’s comments and then various musings on the nature of souls and redemption and stuff. If you get to the end I’ll give you a sticker! *g*
( Souls and redemption in the Buffy verse )
Another thing that I feel like pointing out, is that as a fan I was always easy to please. I liked Buffy and I enjoyed watching it. I never had any set ideas of where I wanted the show to go or what I ‘needed’ to see happen. I wanted to be taken on a journey and if it suddenly veered of to the left I found it an added thrill. So the argument of ‘but it should have happened in such and such a way instead of what we got’ never made much sense to me. It was never ‘my show’ in that sense (and thank goodness for that because Joss is a far, far better story teller than I could ever hope to be), I was just a grateful viewer.
Now about this post: it ties back to
peasant_’s post a few weeks ago, which asked why do some people feel so strongly about soulless redemption? There were a lot of fascinating replies, but rahirah’s comment was possibly the most comprehensive and it just kept going in circles in my head until I began writing my thoughts down, using her comment as a jumping off point (her comments in bold). Thank you Barb! :) So this is sort of the opposite (an explanation of why I think the soul was so important) so I’m bound to disagree a fair bit I’m afraid. But a lot of it is quite simply because we have different perspectives and want different things from our stories. Having thought about it, I think it comes down to who our Spike is!
Also I vainly tried to impose some sort of structure on this monstrosity: first come my responses to rahirah’s comments and then various musings on the nature of souls and redemption and stuff. If you get to the end I’ll give you a sticker! *g*
( Souls and redemption in the Buffy verse )
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27 June 2006 05:48 pmDear ![[profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
timeofchange.
I wish you a Very Happy Birthday, with everything you could possibly want! Including a SpikeBot who loves housework! :)
timeofchange.I wish you a Very Happy Birthday, with everything you could possibly want! Including a SpikeBot who loves housework! :)
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27 June 2006 05:48 pmDear timeofchange.
I wish you a Very Happy Birthday, with everything you could possibly want! Including a SpikeBot who loves housework! :)
timeofchange.I wish you a Very Happy Birthday, with everything you could possibly want! Including a SpikeBot who loves housework! :)