So what now? (Tea. The answer is tea. The whole country is drinking a LOT of tea.)

[elisi]

Brexit: Theresa May's deal is voted down in historic Commons defeat

(Not that I expected this to pass, but ye gods, the incompetence of... everything.)

ETA: Nice summary:

Whatever the results, there are now three options - leave the E.U. with no deal (most of parliament doesn’t support this), remain in the E.U. as is (most of parliament doesn’t support this without a mandate from the country), renegotiate a deal (no one believes it’s possible) /8

— Tom Coates (@tomcoates) January 15, 2019

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[beer_good_foamy]

So what now?

The King John Appreciation Society will celebrate no longer being #1 in the Worst British Government charts?



I'm so sorry. Not that we're doing too well ourselves at the moment, but... Jesus Christ, this is a mess.

[beccaelizabeth]

*icon*

[elisi]

Nice one! :D

[elisi]

The King John Appreciation Society will celebrate no longer being #1 in the Worst British Government charts?
Good point!

I'm so sorry. Not that we're doing too well ourselves at the moment, but... Jesus Christ, this is a mess.
Yeah, and we are STILL heading for a cliff. *hands*

[yourlibrarian]

I think that's everyone's question. Also just had to +1 for Evil Abed gif :)

[elisi]

I couldn't NOT use Evil Abed. I even have the darkest timeline in my tags...

[lokifan]

It's honestly terrifying how shit everyone is at this, even the people I don't want to do well.

[elisi]

I mean, I have to give Theresa May kudos for just CARRYING ON, because I can't believe she's still standing, but other than that... *shakes head*

[promethia_tenk]

Well. At least your subject line is funny.

[elisi]

Thank you! :)

[shadowkat]

So everyone is just drinking tea? LOL!. Well, apparently the US govt and the UK govt are neck n'neck for biggest cluster*%^. We're over five weeks into a government shutdown...the Air Traffic Controllers are eyeing the exit ramps as are the TSA agents (both of which have not been paid in weeks). Although you have a movie about it, we haven't gotten there yet.

So..Look on the bright side, you aren't alone?

We're drinking a lot of tea too. At least I am. Can't bloody do coffee.

[elisi]

So everyone is just drinking tea? LOL!.
Well we drink tea ANYWAY. But it does help.

We're over five weeks into a government shutdown...
Yeah, we're just watching that with a sort of horrified fascination. Like - how long can it go on???

Although you have a movie about it, we haven't gotten there yet.
TV movie, but yeah. I think your Bad Guys are just too OTT, it'd never work on screen.

So..Look on the bright side, you aren't alone?
I just wish we weren't trying to outdo each other with stupidity. Like, that just seems such a pointless endeavor. *sigh*

[shadowkat]

It does help not watching the news, and just reading the headlines...or blurbs. Sort of easier to take in print. Also, a bit like watching through ones fingers.

Yeah, part of VICE's problem is its a satire about Dick Cheney, but currently our government just is more satirical than anything produced ever.

They might be able to do a movie on all this in about twenty years after it's over, assuming we survive.

How long can the shut-down possibly go on...?

I'm wondering the same. My US passport expires next month, I need to get it renewed, also need to do my taxes and hopefully get a refund. (Although these problems pale in comparison to people who have gone without a paycheck for months and are working without pay. I have coworkers whose spouses are at either working without pay or home on furlough.) Both of those are handled by federal workers on furlough or working without pay. Also the city that I live in has over 400,000 federal workers. It's going to shut down the Federal Courts sometime soon -- they only have enough in reserve to make it to the end of the month.

Keep in mind though -- it's a bit different for us than most countries...since we're the United "States" of America...emphasis on "STATES". The State governments are doing fine. Fire, police, hospitals, infrastructure, state courts, fine.

Also, there's something they could do...if the Senate Republicans could get their proverbial heads out of their asses, which is override the President's veto. You need a majority of the House and Senate to override a veto. That's the only way out -- that doesn't cave to the 2 year old currently throwing a temper tantrum in the white house.

[elisi]

It does help not watching the news, and just reading the headlines...or blurbs. Sort of easier to take in print. Also, a bit like watching through ones fingers.
Yeah, that's my method too. Also there is SO MUCH OF IT. :(

Yeah, part of VICE's problem is its a satire about Dick Cheney, but currently our government just is more satirical than anything produced ever.
They keep something lower than rock bottom, it's amazing. (And horrifying.)

They might be able to do a movie on all this in about twenty years after it's over, assuming we survive.
*crosses fingers*

Also, there's something they could do...if the Senate Republicans could get their proverbial heads out of their asses, which is override the President's veto. You need a majority of the House and Senate to override a veto. That's the only way out -- that doesn't cave to the 2 year old currently throwing a temper tantrum in the white house.
Well I haven't looked at the news all day, so maybe this is what's happening? Either way, good luck with it all.

[shadowkat]

Well I haven't looked at the news all day, so maybe this is what's happening? Either way, good luck with it all.

Not yet. The Doofus won't back off the dumb wall, he throws proposals including the wall, they throw proposals that don't include the wall. The problem is we have a guy who came from a family owned construction/real estate development company in charge. His idea of negotiation is -- if you don't agree with this one thing -- I'll walk away. No compromises. Which you can do with a family run business. You can't do it in a democratic government. Meanwhile the Republican Senators and Congressmen are terrified of overriding, because they could lose their base. So they are basically having a stare down contest or contest of wills, waiting to see who gives up first. Trump is convinced that everyone will forget the shutdown and praise the fact that he stood firm, meanwhile the newly elected Congress is determined not to let him have that wall no matter what. Neither side will compromise on the stupid wall. I sort of wish they'd allow it, have it fail miserably, and then have the American people sue Trump to repay the 5 Billion out of his pension, speaking fees, and paid security detail.

[elisi]

I sort of wish they'd allow it, have it fail miserably, and then have the American people sue Trump to repay the 5 Billion out of his pension, speaking fees, and paid security detail.
Good idea, except he doesn't have that kind of money. He's a really terrible businessman...

[shadowkat]

Yep, he has 150 bankrupticies...every time it falls through he declares bankruptcy. That's not going to work here. I'm predicting impeachment hearings in late 2019, early 2020. And it will be much worse than Watergate.

[elisi]

And it will be much worse than Watergate.
Uh-huh. I can't wait.

[shadowkat]

I'm just hoping it doesn't tank our economy along with it. But something tells me it's going to.
2019 is going to a really hard year.

[elisi]

I hear ya. The government is driving our economy off a cliff and we can just watch and hope that someone stops them before it's too late. :(

[shadowkat]

LOL! Our governments appear to be in a race to see who can do it first. At this point, it's a toss-up, on who will win.

[elisi]

Like a real-life Upper-Class Twit of the Year!

[sea_thoughts]

A huge and much deserved defeat for a party that has put its own survival ahead of the country’s best interests.

[elisi]

Uh-huh.

Can we just, like, rewind the past two-three years?

[sea_thoughts]

Can't rewind, we can only go forward, but with hope and determination to do better this time. *raises fist*

[elisi]

*looks at political landscape*

HOW???

/rhetorical question

[classics-lover.livejournal.com]

I kind of hope Gerry Adams is hanging up his chef's apron, going out to his Man Cave, and making a few molotov cocktails...

But I'm a hateful cynic who grew up in the Troubles and actually remembers shit like Omagh, which has conveniently slipped the memories of ALL THE TORIES.

*shrugs*

I'm sure there will either be a dissolved United Kingdom or a United Ireland at some point.

[elisi]

But I'm a hateful cynic who grew up in the Troubles and actually remembers shit like Omagh, which has conveniently slipped the memories of ALL THE TORIES.
*points to icon* It's SO WEIRD. No actually, they just don't care.

I'm sure there will either be a dissolved United Kingdom or a United Ireland at some point.
And it gets closer with every terrible decision...

[gillo]

Yup. About a litre this evening.

We live in interesting times. Far too bloody interesting.

But I heard today that I passed my dissertation. :-)

[elisi]

Only one reply to that:

The good things don't always soften the bad things, but vice versa, the bad things don't necessarily spoil the good things or make them unimportant.

So well done you and congratulations! \o/

[ragnarok-08.livejournal.com]

Yup, I couldn't agree more.

[elisi]

Tea is good though.

[bogwitch.livejournal.com]

If I was in charge of delivering Brexit, I would cancel it and promise the country that the process would restart when there is some kind of sensible consensus of what we actually want from the process. Like what she should have done in the first place.

Obviously that would probably never happen...

[elisi]

The saddest thing is that the referendum was only advisory. They had (have) zero obligation to deliver anything. :(