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elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2016-06-27 09:25 am
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Worst thing about Brexit

Is that our leaders are so useless they couldn't organise their way out of a paper bag.

(Was listening to the radio this morning - they talked to a German politician, who said that yes, Britain could stay part of the single market [like Switzerland or Norway], and it would cost exactly the same we had been paying before. WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TAR & FEATHER THE WHOLE OF THE LEAVE CAMPAIGN???)



(with thanks to [livejournal.com profile] beer_good_foamy

Darcy is considering getting a Labour membership, as that way he could have a say in who the new leader would be. Not that Corbyn has left [yet], but he's going to have to. It seems that every hour another shadow cabinet member resigns. Personally I'd like Chukka Umunna to take over - he seems the only one who might be able to face off against Boris in an election. And just imagine - the first black Prime Minister!

Alternatively - Americans, can we borrow Obama? Hold your elections early; Hillary is hyper-competent & more than ready to take the reigns. Then Obama would be able to come over here & sort out the mess. He's used to dealing with idiots after all.

Or, can we put Nichola Sturgeon in charge? (The petition now has 3.6 million signatures...)



(She wants Scotland to block Brexit... I say, let her & Merkel negotiate. More sense than all the rest put together.)

Oh, and I changed my tagline. I'm sure you'll get why.

[identity profile] beer-good-foamy.livejournal.com 2016-06-27 09:03 am (UTC)(link)

Even Baldrick had a fucking plan.

— Stephen Moore (@steve_m10) 26 juni 2016

[identity profile] sueworld2003.livejournal.com 2016-06-27 09:39 am (UTC)(link)
Brilliant! :D

Obama

[identity profile] empresspatti.livejournal.com 2016-06-27 09:28 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a Hilary supporter, but ZOMG, I am going to miss this President. I feel so lucky to have had a president that is so intelligent, articulate, calm and who governs from such a place of compassion. One of a kind.

[identity profile] flowsoffire.livejournal.com 2016-06-29 12:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Many a country could use that these days, I think—some intelligent, balanced, long-term leadership. *lives in a world of unicorns*

Vote Saxon icon?

[identity profile] flowsoffire.livejournal.com 2016-07-05 07:27 am (UTC)(link)
Let's all ride off into the sunset and leave all the mess behind =P

[identity profile] flowsoffire.livejournal.com 2016-07-09 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
Belgium sounds very good! :D (Though I have no clue where the political situation is there nowadays, as long as they've got a government and their own populists aren't munching away at everything it should do XD)
Edited 2016-07-09 05:29 (UTC)

[identity profile] a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com 2016-06-27 11:15 am (UTC)(link)
I think (since Scotland and Ireland voted to stay IN), they should let them. Bout time those guys got a break - and it would be a hardcore lesson to Britain (I know, I know, I'm feeling mean).

LOL!! We'll happily send him over. This is just a Triscuit to him. He's had enough vacay dealing woth Congress methinks *snerk*

*HUGS*

Even Baldrick had a plan...OMFG...

But I liked the old tagline...!

(Anonymous) 2016-06-27 12:14 pm (UTC)(link)
It is an admirable stance; but in your case it's also needlessly difficult and lesser than you, you are one step above, beyond, how can I put it. Don't let just this plunge you into anti-nihilism. Not only that, in any case.
I mean, I know things feel bad, but thay are not Angel bad, you have to admit. And judging by your stuff, I don't think existentialism is a sustainable option for you, not a long-term one at least.

"In the end it's only a passing thing this shadow, even darkness must pass. A new day will come, and when the sun shines it'll shine out the clearer."


On the other hand, yes, listen to the Greek person, who at first had a mini panic attack because of the news -but managed it after careful assessment of things, aka yes, I can still do what I want in the future), who as you have seen is totally sane, not a psychologist, half a generation younger than you, and who politically-philosophically-religiously identifies as a socialist humanist anti-nihilist and a Christian Universalist/Nature-Worshipping/Agnostic hybrid! I'm sure he knows what he's talking about!


P.S. While we are on the subject, something to cheer you up. Oh, and if you want, use it, by all means: Google -> "In which the 12th Doctor is a famous philosopher"


Re: But I liked the old tagline...!

(Anonymous) 2016-06-27 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not a descent into darkness - see my next post. Or the one I'm about to write.
Oh, I understand. I just wanted to go “there, there”, because I don’t like people being sad.

It's just the head-desk idiocy of the whole thing.
“Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”

And it's my life (EU national living in the UK) and my children's lives (how will this affect their future? My eldest might like to study in Belgium, will that be possible?)
It’s natural to worry of course, but I wouldn’t panic. Like you had said, at least *you* have options. And it might just be more difficult, I wouldn’t go for “impossible”.
(I was disappointed too at first, in the opposite way, as a person who possibly wants to study, work and live in the UK; but then I thought : “well, the US isn’t in the EU either and you’re not ruling it out as an option, so why the UK? And what were people doing *before* the UK became a member? They were still able to go. Suppose every country you wanted *was* still in the EU and you were Japanese for instance: not as easy; but you wanted it, you’d raise money, you’d fill ALL the damn paperwork, you’d still be able to go.” And I’m cool now, but I understand that for every individual it’s different, especially if one takes into account the frustration of it happening where you live, seeing people you know being stupid, seing people choose based on delusions, and not being able to vote too).

Most Leave voters voted the way they did because of a mixture of lies and 'protest voting' that they thought wouldn't matter, and how the country is now split in half and everyone's angry.
Yeah, I mean even if people actually want or do a *good* and beneficial thing, it’s infuriating when they do it for the wrong reasons. That goes double when it probably isn’t that good after all and everyone ends up at each other’s throats.

[identity profile] bogwitch.livejournal.com 2016-06-27 01:44 pm (UTC)(link)

I was considering joining the Labour party as well, but it seems a bit silly doing that now when no one seems to have a clue.


I like Jeremy, but if we are going to have a general election soon then we need someone with broader appeal alas.

[identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com 2016-06-27 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
The problem is that a good guy who appeals to Labour Party members because he stands for what they stand for is a lovely idea - but you need someone to appeal to the people who don't automatically vote Labour - and he isn't that sort of person.

You get the impression that you could sit by this vaguely familiar person in the pub, agree with more or less everything he says - and next day you still wouldn't recognise him when he appeared on TV.

[identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com 2016-06-27 06:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, at least one government thought to make plans to prepare for a possible UK exit from the EU...

A quote from a long article on Manx.net;

"In April this year the Council of Ministers published its first interim report on the potential consequences of Brexit for the Island, with contributions from across Government.

The second report was issued last week, setting out how a new relationship between the UK and the EU might function, as well as explaining how other small European jurisdictions manage their relationships with the EU."

[identity profile] geekslave.livejournal.com 2016-06-28 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
I'd gladly lend you Obama if we could. He wouldn't suffer any bullshit from some of these fools.

Stacey

[identity profile] geekslave.livejournal.com 2016-06-29 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
Expect him in 7-10 business days ;)

Stacey