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Worst thing about Brexit
Is that our leaders are so useless they couldn't organise their way out of a paper bag.
(Was listening to the radio this morning - they talked to a German politician, who said that yes, Britain could stay part of the single market [like Switzerland or Norway], and it would cost exactly the same we had been paying before. WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TAR & FEATHER THE WHOLE OF THE LEAVE CAMPAIGN???)
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Darcy is considering getting a Labour membership, as that way he could have a say in who the new leader would be. Not that Corbyn has left [yet], but he's going to have to. It seems that every hour another shadow cabinet member resigns. Personally I'd like Chukka Umunna to take over - he seems the only one who might be able to face off against Boris in an election. And just imagine - the first black Prime Minister!
Alternatively - Americans, can we borrow Obama? Hold your elections early; Hillary is hyper-competent & more than ready to take the reigns. Then Obama would be able to come over here & sort out the mess. He's used to dealing with idiots after all.
Or, can we put Nichola Sturgeon in charge? (The petition now has 3.6 million signatures...)

(She wants Scotland to block Brexit... I say, let her & Merkel negotiate. More sense than all the rest put together.)
Oh, and I changed my tagline. I'm sure you'll get why.
(Was listening to the radio this morning - they talked to a German politician, who said that yes, Britain could stay part of the single market [like Switzerland or Norway], and it would cost exactly the same we had been paying before. WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TAR & FEATHER THE WHOLE OF THE LEAVE CAMPAIGN???)
Even Baldrick had a fucking plan.
— Stephen Moore (@steve_m10) June 26, 2016
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Darcy is considering getting a Labour membership, as that way he could have a say in who the new leader would be. Not that Corbyn has left [yet], but he's going to have to. It seems that every hour another shadow cabinet member resigns. Personally I'd like Chukka Umunna to take over - he seems the only one who might be able to face off against Boris in an election. And just imagine - the first black Prime Minister!
Alternatively - Americans, can we borrow Obama? Hold your elections early; Hillary is hyper-competent & more than ready to take the reigns. Then Obama would be able to come over here & sort out the mess. He's used to dealing with idiots after all.
Or, can we put Nichola Sturgeon in charge? (The petition now has 3.6 million signatures...)

(She wants Scotland to block Brexit... I say, let her & Merkel negotiate. More sense than all the rest put together.)
Oh, and I changed my tagline. I'm sure you'll get why.
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Obama
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And why can't we have someone over here with just a FRACTION of his sensible calm? /rhetorical question
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Vote Saxon icon?
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I want to live in a world of unicorns too!!!
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LOL!! We'll happily send him over. This is just a Triscuit to him. He's had enough vacay dealing woth Congress methinks *snerk*
*HUGS*
Even Baldrick had a plan...OMFG...
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This is what you get for being stupid - you BROKE the country.
LOL!! We'll happily send him over.
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Even Baldrick had a plan...OMFG...
So unprepared. It kills me.
But I liked the old tagline...!
(Anonymous) 2016-06-27 12:14 pm (UTC)(link)I mean, I know things feel bad, but thay are not Angel bad, you have to admit. And judging by your stuff, I don't think existentialism is a sustainable option for you, not a long-term one at least.
"In the end it's only a passing thing this shadow, even darkness must pass. A new day will come, and when the sun shines it'll shine out the clearer."
On the other hand, yes, listen to the Greek person, who at first had a mini panic attack because of the news -but managed it after careful assessment of things, aka yes, I can still do what I want in the future), who as you have seen is totally sane, not a psychologist, half a generation younger than you, and who politically-philosophically-religiously identifies as a socialist humanist anti-nihilist and a Christian Universalist/Nature-Worshipping/Agnostic hybrid! I'm sure he knows what he's talking about!
P.S. While we are on the subject, something to cheer you up. Oh, and if you want, use it, by all means: Google -> "In which the 12th Doctor is a famous philosopher"
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It's just the head-desk idiocy of the whole thing.
If competence is a kink, then this stupidity is the opposite.
And it's my life (EU national living in the UK) and my children's lives (how will this affect their future? My eldest might like to study in Belgium, will that be possible?), the fact that most most Leave voters voted the way they did because of a mixture of lies and 'protest voting' that they thought wouldn't matter, and how the country is now split in half and everyone's angry.
And for what?
I'm trying to be zen, but beneath it all, yes, I'm still furious. Goodness knows the EU isn't a shining city on the hill (as you will well know, and their treatment of Greece was horrible), but if we have to leave, couldn't it at least be with some dignity? Rather than the shambles we have...
/end rant. Apologies
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(Anonymous) 2016-06-27 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)Oh, I understand. I just wanted to go “there, there”, because I don’t like people being sad.
It's just the head-desk idiocy of the whole thing.
“Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”
And it's my life (EU national living in the UK) and my children's lives (how will this affect their future? My eldest might like to study in Belgium, will that be possible?)
It’s natural to worry of course, but I wouldn’t panic. Like you had said, at least *you* have options. And it might just be more difficult, I wouldn’t go for “impossible”.
(I was disappointed too at first, in the opposite way, as a person who possibly wants to study, work and live in the UK; but then I thought : “well, the US isn’t in the EU either and you’re not ruling it out as an option, so why the UK? And what were people doing *before* the UK became a member? They were still able to go. Suppose every country you wanted *was* still in the EU and you were Japanese for instance: not as easy; but you wanted it, you’d raise money, you’d fill ALL the damn paperwork, you’d still be able to go.” And I’m cool now, but I understand that for every individual it’s different, especially if one takes into account the frustration of it happening where you live, seeing people you know being stupid, seing people choose based on delusions, and not being able to vote too).
Most Leave voters voted the way they did because of a mixture of lies and 'protest voting' that they thought wouldn't matter, and how the country is now split in half and everyone's angry.
Yeah, I mean even if people actually want or do a *good* and beneficial thing, it’s infuriating when they do it for the wrong reasons. That goes double when it probably isn’t that good after all and everyone ends up at each other’s throats.
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And as I say in the post - leaving isn't the worst thing in the world, but the fact that those in charge seem a) completely unprepared and b) unable to get their shit together doesn't bode well.
(Sorry, tired. And I guess this is highlighting the ways in which I *am* a foreigner. My Scandinavian sensibilities feel affronted. Not that Scandinavia is a shining beacon of course. But the UK keeps drifting further towards US behaviour, which is unsettling...)
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I was considering joining the Labour party as well, but it seems a bit silly doing that now when no one seems to have a clue.
I like Jeremy, but if we are going to have a general election soon then we need someone with broader appeal alas.
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I'd say, the more members with a brain, the better. Mind you, it'll cost you £1.20 a month...
I like Jeremy, but if we are going to have a general election soon then we need someone with broader appeal alas.
Same here. I like his principles, and his quiet conviction. But he'd be steamrolled if he came up against Boris, and the press has been hostile since the second he got the job. :(
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You get the impression that you could sit by this vaguely familiar person in the pub, agree with more or less everything he says - and next day you still wouldn't recognise him when he appeared on TV.
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Miss M has just discovered his instagram (yes, Corbyn apparently has an instagram account), and is thrilled by how adorable it is.
But he's not a leader. At least, not the kind we need right now.
I should probably go find out more about Chukka Amunna. from what I've seen I like him, but I don't know much about where he stands on anything. But he seems to have strong convictions, and I can see him standing up to the Tories.
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A quote from a long article on Manx.net;
"In April this year the Council of Ministers published its first interim report on the potential consequences of Brexit for the Island, with contributions from across Government.
The second report was issued last week, setting out how a new relationship between the UK and the EU might function, as well as explaining how other small European jurisdictions manage their relationships with the EU."
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Well done!! So, why did it never occur to Boris... No wait, don't answer that.
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