elisi | I never knew this...

"I met more discrimination as a woman than for being black. Men are men," she once said.

That doesn't surprise me. I do remember Shirley and suspect that a lot of the reason why she was forgotten was that she never got as much media attention at the time as she deserved. Even today one can see how the media dismisses, right from the start, candidates they think have no chance of winning. The early coverage of Sanders' candidacy was downright insulting. It wasn't until he started making public appearances and drawing big crowds that they had to backtrack a bit, though they still focused more on his appearance than his politics.

This part though, I didn't know:

Shirley Chisholm survived several assassination attempts

I was pretty young at the time of her campaign

That doesn't surprise me.
Me neither. :(

I do remember Shirley and suspect that a lot of the reason why she was forgotten was that she never got as much media attention at the time as she deserved. Even today one can see how the media dismisses, right from the start, candidates they think have no chance of winning.
I really wish Andrew Sullivan was still around...

though they still focused more on his appearance than his politics.
Good thing he's not a woman, I suppose. Which is a sad thing to have to say. (My next post might interest you, considering how it'll be about how entrenched sexism is in society, although it'll focus on Torchwood.

And I'm sadly not surprised that they tried to kill her. Us women must be very dangerous.

Has he retired completely? I knew he was going to stop being an independent blogger but I assumed he was going to do some less demanding work.

Possibly, yes. Sanders has acknowledged there's a big push to make Elizabeth Warren his running mate. I do think she might be doing equally well but it's hard to say. The key time is when the ballot box is open -- will that enthusiasm translate to votes?

I look forward to your post!

Although my memories of her campaign are non-existent, she was still in government until I'd graduated high school. Although there were assassination attempts against presidents later, it seems like the mid 60s to 70s were a big time for that here against political figures and reformers. Given she had three strikes against her I suppose it would almost be more surprising if none had occurred.

Has he retired completely? I knew he was going to stop being an independent blogger but I assumed he was going to do some less demanding work.
Well, I don't know what he's doing, but dammit, I wish he'd weigh in on the current election cycle.

The key time is when the ballot box is open -- will that enthusiasm translate to votes?
That's always the question... And to be honest, I'll be happy with Hillary. Anyone not a Republican can run the country from where I'm sitting.

Given she had three strikes against her I suppose it would almost be more surprising if none had occurred.
Yeah, sad but true.

(Oh and post posted. In case you're curious.)

Years ago, I went to my cousin's college graduation and Shirley Chisholm with the guest speaker. She so impressed me that when she ran for President I voted for her although I knew she'd never win.

Years ago, I went to my cousin's college graduation and Shirley Chisholm with the guest speaker.
!!!!! I am very impressed with *you*!

It was sooo much better than my guest speaker (Clifford Wharton) who almost put me into a coma.

I still remember the chap who spoke at Darcy's graduation. Can't remember his name, but it was a good speech.

I've heard about Shirley Chisholm, and she sounds like she was ahead of her time, especially in those days. She was quite remarkable.

She really was. Am hoping more people will become aware of her.

I recently heard about Shirley Chisholm from a local news program. I wish it had made more coverage. I did Modern history in high school and the main topics were about the Israeli-Palestinian Peace Process or the JFK Assassination.

The things they cover in history are... very odd. I wish they could be broader.

If Aboriginal history was taught in Australian schools on a wider scale, maybe there would be less racism and ignorance of Indigenous culture and diversity. I'm only aware of some historical events because I'm curious to understand why there is still an issue. It's mainly left up to the government to make up for the past.

If Aboriginal history was taught in Australian schools on a wider scale, maybe there would be less racism and ignorance of Indigenous culture and diversity.
This is true everywhere. When people don't know history, they're bound to repeat is. :(

I'm left to believe that some people just want to stay arrogant. They feel threatened by immigrants that come here legally. Yet they don't think about how this country was colonized partly by convicts who were guilty of petty crimes from the British government.

There is always a debate every year during Australia Day, whether it is really Invasion Day. Those who are open-minded, tend to say its a bit of both.

There is always a debate every year during Australia Day, whether it is really Invasion Day. Those who are open-minded, tend to say its a bit of both.
Hmmm. Interesting. And I can see why.

Adam Hills acknowledged his convict roots and his able to be open minded on topics like this.

I adore Adam Hills.

Me too!. I have been a fan of his since he was just a relatively unknown Australian stand-up comedian. Before he started swearing on "The Last Leg".:D

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Lucky you! :)

I make a big deal about the swearing because Adam was known as the "nicest" stand-up comedian. But I guess you can't do a "rant" like he does without getting passionate about it.

Sorry I have strayed away from the original topic. I always do that.:)

I make a big deal about the swearing because Adam was known as the "nicest" stand-up comedian.
Ah, I see. And yes, being passionate often involves swearing.

Sorry I have strayed away from the original topic. I always do that.:)
*points to icon*

"... being passionate often involves swearing"

Yes. Like in sport or in another activity that two people can share....:D

Indeed! :)

I had to go there.:D

Tennis use to be known as the "Gentlemen's Club" and look at what's happened?. I know they must be under pressure to "perform" but sometimes I think they can get carried away.

Now how do I go back to the original topic?. Maybe I'll just stop now?.:(

I had to go there.:D
Naturally!

And sorry for vanishing, busy week! Have practically forgotten the conversation, sorry. Head full of fic/meta... And I've yet to get back to your other comments.

That's okay. Whenever your ready. I figured that if I forget something than I'll probably mentioned it in another post. You know how my conversations tend to go.:)

Aye aye! :)

Wow..I didn't know about her!! It was the time before I was truly political. Wow. That sucks all around.

Well, she did a lot of good. Here's to her memory!

Boy, this brought back memories. Yes, I definitely know about Shirley Chisholm. My sixth grade teacher, Miss Hartwell, who was also my first black teacher, left our school because she was going to work with Shirley Chisholm. I didn't know at the time that she was going to work on the campaign, which was announced a few weeks after Miss Hartwell left.

What I remember so powerfully, though, was that I thought it amazing and wonderful that a woman was running for president, that a woman was willing to say, "I can" when the men were saying, "You can't." She's also the only presidential candidate I ever met because the campaign did do a visit to our city and Miss Hartwell made certain my parents and I were invited to an event. We were introduced and I wished her luck, told her I thought it would be amazing if she won and she thanked me. It was nothing special, but my former teacher had wanted some of her students to have the chance to meeting this inspiring woman.

She and Barbara Jordan were childhood idols for me because these were women who did when the conventional wisdom was that women should be the support and ornament for the man.

My sixth grade teacher, Miss Hartwell, who was also my first black teacher, left our school because she was going to work with Shirley Chisholm. I didn't know at the time that she was going to work on the campaign, which was announced a few weeks after Miss Hartwell left.
That's incredible. Must have felt like touching history.

It was nothing special, but my former teacher had wanted some of her students to have the chance to meeting this inspiring woman.
I'd say it was definitely special. And I think your teacher definitely succeeded in inspiring her students.

She and Barbara Jordan were childhood idols for me because these were women who did when the conventional wisdom was that women should be the support and ornament for the man.
*nods* I'm currently rereading Gaudy Night (for goodness knows which time). It was published in 1935, and although it's set in a women's college, there is very much a through-line of women either becoming scholars or getting married. The two are not compatible.

I had never heard of this woman! I feel slightly ashamed.

Blame the school system? Or the media?

She probably wouldn't feature much in the UK education system so I'll blame the media.

Good choice.

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