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DW 9.05. The Girl Who Died
Sorry this is so late, and scattered/basic. But it’s been a busy week... Mostly I'm just skimming the surface, picking out the main things I can see, without delving below in any kind of detail.
OTOH then Vikings/Norse mythology is stuff I am good with. (Nordic girl here.)
The Girl Who Died
The first thing to note is that we are in a world where stories and dreams have power:
ASHILDR: You're back! All of you! Are all of you back?
NOLLARR: I suppose so, I haven't counted.
HASTEN: I'm back!
(Another, younger Viking hugs the girl.)
ASHILDR: I had a dream you'd all died. It was so real, I thought I'd made it happen.
NOLLARR: Well, if it ever does, I'm sure you'll a find some way to blame yourself.
I'm honestly not sure how to structure this. I want to do subheadings, but everything is connected... If I could contruct my posts in 3D, so I could show you how the connections look in my head, I would.
Ashildr
Her name means ‘Odin’s Valkyrie’ - or, to pick that apart a bit more:
Ashildr combines ‘As’ (god) and ‘Hildr’ (now ‘Hildur’ - it’s a common name in the Faroes), meaning ‘battle’. Hild, a Nordic-German Bellona, was a Valkyrie who conveyed fallen warriors to Valhalla. Warfare was often called Hild's Game.
The Norse gods were known as ‘Asar’ - that's where the 'As' comes from, and it’s the word that’ll mutate to ‘Os’, thus tying Ashildr in with Oswin (= god’s friend), Oswald (= god’s power) and Osgood:
Osgood comes from ‘Asgautr’ - composed of the elements ás ‘god’ + the tribal name Gaut (or Goth). (Gautr can also mean ‘creator’. Which would men that Osgood’s name would be ‘divine creator’. No wonder she doesn’t need a first name!)
So we have these three women, all tied together - and tied to the Doctor - by a shared name. And all of them hybrids in some way... Osgood of course has/had a Zygon double, Ashildr is now part-Mire and Clara... Well, she's probably Dalek-y and also somewhat Time Lord-y (nanobots in the Dalek; jumping into the Doctor's time stream probably left a mark somewhere etc.). We had the image of Ashildr with the Mire head seeing through their eyes, changing what they saw - definitely echoes of Clara inside the Dalek, although much more powerful parallels when we go back to Oswin.
Also, talking about hybrids, then Ashildr was one already:
ASHILDR: 'I've always been different. All my life I've known that. The girls all thought I was a boy. The boys all said I was just a girl. My head is always full of stories. I know I'm strange. Everyone knows I'm strange.'
But the most important part of that speech might be these words:
'But here I'm loved.'
She is strange, and odd - but accepted. Loved. And that is vital, and a lesson more people need to learn.
Tell a different story that's how you win.
('“As above, so below,” the injunction goes - a declaration that manipulating symbols and manipulating objects is, in some sense, the same thing. That a symbol and a thing are in some sense interchangeable.' Phil Sandifer)
Part of me wants to write a ton about Ashildr. The other parts of me are conscious of the fact that a) we only know half her story so far and b) there are only 4 hours until the next episode... So I'll leave it here.
Mind you, the very title 'The Girl Who Died' is all-over Clara.
Clara
First of all, Clara as Hanged Man (for the second time - she's up-side down in the opening shot), once more marking her as someone thinking through life, working out where they're at. ('This is the archetype to meditate on to help break old patterns of behaviour and bad habits that restrict you. The Hanged Man reflects a need to suspend action, and as a result, a period of indecision may be indicated. Decisions or actions that need to be implemented will be postponed, even if, at the time, there is a sense of urgency to act.') Her deep intent on travelling should maybe be seen in the light of this? An overt focus on her 'hobby' as she figures out what she actually wants.
Second, her mirroring. We can see the move from Magician's Apprentice to Witch's Familiar. Missy nearly gets her killed through ruthlessness/insanity, but Clara is a good pupil. We can see how she's absorbed the lessons in her little 'Work out how you're going to win' speech.
She is beginning to work very much like River - trusting him completely to find a way out. Clara's Missy-prompted: 'Because he always assumes he's going to win. He always knows there's a way to survive. He just has to go and find it.' is just another way of stating River's perfectly assured 'There's always a way out'.
(Also see my 'Missy & River are her Evil Stepmother/Fairy Godmother' thoughts in my previous meta.)
Third - spacesuit. It's the 'Waters of Mars' spacesuit again. (I'll get back to this in my Doctor section.) Last it appeared was 'Hide', which had all the mirrors ever. There, Eleven was showing it off, and Clara said it made her eyes hurt. (This time she shows it off herself.) Then, she grasped something fundamental about the Doctor as he stepped through human history ('We're all ghosts to you'), but now she has - a) scattered herself over his time line, and b) in many ways learned to see the world through his eyes. ('Oh, Clara Oswald what have I made of you?' the Doctor asks.) There's a fascinating short post here, looking at how the Doctor and Clara have almost swapped places here, when it comes to the Dr/companion dynamic.
I think abossycontrolfreak is onto something with her idea that Clara is going to become some kind of mythical figure. She is still human, yes, but there is all this talk of hybrids, and her mirrors are (have always been) the Doctor, Missy, River. She is a quantum creature, a hybrid [symbolically] from the start, a Companion apart.
Also, speaking of the spacesuit, her whole speak & spiel was pure Doctor, talking her way out of the situation. She claimed to *be* him in Death in Heaven, and she does a pretty good job...
The Doctor
So, Odin. First of all, this, because I realised that maybe not everyone has seen 'Monty Python and the Holy Grail' and thus would not get the reference...
Also, I want to just briefly acknowledge the pure and utter craziness of the plot, and its resolution. <3 <3 <3 Darcy was spluttering going 'Electric eels don't do that!' and I was laughing, saying how this is the show that reverses the polarity of the neutron flow, AND THEN THE DOCTOR SAID THAT EXACTLY AND I NEARLY DIED.
Please take as a given that I loved all the silliness, the daftness, all the little touches. Instead of flailing I shall focus on mythology and mirrors.
Because oh, Odin... The two fake Odins. Except one wasn't a fake - or rather, his lie had layers. They both pretended to be a Norse god, but in reality the Mire leader was merely a warrior, whereas the Doctor can - in many ways - lay claim to god-hood of his own...
I like this website's summary of Odin:
Odin is one of the most complex and enigmatic characters in Norse mythology, and perhaps in all of world literature. He’s the chief of the Aesir tribe of deities, yet he often ventures far from their kingdom, Asgard, on long, solitary wanderings throughout the cosmos on purely self-interested quests. He’s a relentless seeker after and giver of wisdom, but he has little regard for communal values such as justice, fairness, or respect for law and convention. He’s the divine patron of rulers, and also of outcasts. He’s a war-god, but also a poetry-god, and he has prominent transgender qualities that would bring unspeakable shame to any traditional Norse/Germanic warrior. He’s worshiped by those in search of prestige, honor, and nobility, yet he’s often cursed for being a fickle trickster.
[...]
Whatever their social stature, the men and women favored by Odin are distinguished by their intelligence, creativity, and competence in the proverbial “war of all against all.” Whether such people become kings or criminals is mostly a matter of luck.
I'm sure the Doctor-y parallels are pretty obvious. ;) Also his wife, Frigg, is described as a goddess associated with foreknowledge and wisdom - which is so delightfully River-y that I'll just leave it here. :)
There is the one-eyed thing (I finally love the sunglasses!) - the 'real' Odin gave up an eye in exchange for wisdom. (Whole story here. We can also see this as another parallel to Davros, with his Third eye, giving up conventional sight. Plus, Dorium Moldovar as Mimir is amusing me now.)
Over 170 names are recorded for Odin. These names are variously descriptive of attributes of the god, refer to myths involving him, or refer to religious practices associated with the god. This multitude of names makes Odin the god with the most names known among the Germanic peoples. Here are a few that I picked out as particularly fitting with the Doctor:
- 'Father of men' (or of the age/world)//'Allfather'. Again, we see him as a father figure, this ties in with how he steals Davros’ seat in the opener, where of course Davros is ‘the father of all Daleks’.
- 'Delight of Frigg'/'Dweller in Frigg's Embrace' (just ‘cause I like it. River. <3)
- 'Father of Magical Songs'
- 'Wise One', concealer
- Wanderer or Wayweary
- Deceiver/Riddler
- Swift in Deceit, Swift Tricker, Maddener, Wise in magical spells
- God Protector
- Hooded, Masked One
There are so many! Also lots about war. But the name thing is important. (See A Good Man Goes to War and every instance of 'Doctor Who?')
However, as people know, he's also the god of the dead, his Valkyries collecting the [most worthy] warriors fallen in battle, bringing them to Valhalla. Also:
His mastery of necromancy, the magical art of communicating with and raising the dead, is frequently noted.
(This makes Under the Lake/Before the Flood relevant! Dead/resurrected people are a theme. Hurrah. It also ties in with Missy's storyline & the Nethersphere, and Danny. Bringing people back is not a good thing.)
Here, however, he literally becomes Odin; a god, raising the dead...
And of all the things I was expecting this season, this wasn't it:
You can see the Pompeii episode as foreshadowing for Water of Mars, if you like (the Doctor and Donna end up as literal 'household gods' to the Roman family they save), but to revisit the Doctor's Victoriousness now? Oh, I'm THRILLED. (RTD themes revisited by Moffat are like my favourite thing in the world.)
Because although people grow and learn, their flaws do not change. And oh, these two scenes echo each other beautifully:
CLARA: You did your best. She died. There's nothing you can do.
DOCTOR: I can do anything. There's nothing I can't do. Nothing. But I'm not supposed to. Ripples, tidal waves, rules. I'm not supposed to. Oh. Oh!
[...]
DOCTOR: To remind me. To hold me to the mark. I'm the Doctor, and I save people.
(He shouts at the sky - at the Time Lords?)
DOCTOR: And if anyone happens to be listening, and you've got any kind of a problem with that, to hell with you!
~
ADELAIDE: But you said we die. For the future, for the human race.
DOCTOR: Yes, because there are laws. There are Laws of Time. Once upon a time there were people in charge of those laws, but they died. They all died. Do you know who that leaves? Me! It's taken me all these years to realise the Laws of Time are mine, and they will obey me!
[...]
ADELAIDE: Is there nothing you can't do?
DOCTOR: Not any more.
But the difference is that this time the Doctor knows enough, has come far enough to see himself clearly.
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He's not going to go off like Ten did... But he still made the same kind of mistake.
Going back to the idea of hubris as one of the key-words for this season, and Clara & Twelve as Ten and Rose, we can see Twelve 'saving' Ashildr very much in the light of Rose saving Jack. Done out of the best of motives, but using power not quite within their control... And it looks like Ashildr will not be as forgiving as the good Captain. (I've tried to stay away from spoilers, so please don't tell me everything that'll happen tonight!)
OTOH then Vikings/Norse mythology is stuff I am good with. (Nordic girl here.)
The first thing to note is that we are in a world where stories and dreams have power:
ASHILDR: You're back! All of you! Are all of you back?
NOLLARR: I suppose so, I haven't counted.
HASTEN: I'm back!
(Another, younger Viking hugs the girl.)
ASHILDR: I had a dream you'd all died. It was so real, I thought I'd made it happen.
NOLLARR: Well, if it ever does, I'm sure you'll a find some way to blame yourself.
I'm honestly not sure how to structure this. I want to do subheadings, but everything is connected... If I could contruct my posts in 3D, so I could show you how the connections look in my head, I would.
Her name means ‘Odin’s Valkyrie’ - or, to pick that apart a bit more:
Ashildr combines ‘As’ (god) and ‘Hildr’ (now ‘Hildur’ - it’s a common name in the Faroes), meaning ‘battle’. Hild, a Nordic-German Bellona, was a Valkyrie who conveyed fallen warriors to Valhalla. Warfare was often called Hild's Game.
The Norse gods were known as ‘Asar’ - that's where the 'As' comes from, and it’s the word that’ll mutate to ‘Os’, thus tying Ashildr in with Oswin (= god’s friend), Oswald (= god’s power) and Osgood:
Osgood comes from ‘Asgautr’ - composed of the elements ás ‘god’ + the tribal name Gaut (or Goth). (Gautr can also mean ‘creator’. Which would men that Osgood’s name would be ‘divine creator’. No wonder she doesn’t need a first name!)
So we have these three women, all tied together - and tied to the Doctor - by a shared name. And all of them hybrids in some way... Osgood of course has/had a Zygon double, Ashildr is now part-Mire and Clara... Well, she's probably Dalek-y and also somewhat Time Lord-y (nanobots in the Dalek; jumping into the Doctor's time stream probably left a mark somewhere etc.). We had the image of Ashildr with the Mire head seeing through their eyes, changing what they saw - definitely echoes of Clara inside the Dalek, although much more powerful parallels when we go back to Oswin.
Also, talking about hybrids, then Ashildr was one already:
ASHILDR: 'I've always been different. All my life I've known that. The girls all thought I was a boy. The boys all said I was just a girl. My head is always full of stories. I know I'm strange. Everyone knows I'm strange.'
But the most important part of that speech might be these words:
'But here I'm loved.'
She is strange, and odd - but accepted. Loved. And that is vital, and a lesson more people need to learn.
Tell a different story that's how you win.
('“As above, so below,” the injunction goes - a declaration that manipulating symbols and manipulating objects is, in some sense, the same thing. That a symbol and a thing are in some sense interchangeable.' Phil Sandifer)
Part of me wants to write a ton about Ashildr. The other parts of me are conscious of the fact that a) we only know half her story so far and b) there are only 4 hours until the next episode... So I'll leave it here.
Mind you, the very title 'The Girl Who Died' is all-over Clara.
First of all, Clara as Hanged Man (for the second time - she's up-side down in the opening shot), once more marking her as someone thinking through life, working out where they're at. ('This is the archetype to meditate on to help break old patterns of behaviour and bad habits that restrict you. The Hanged Man reflects a need to suspend action, and as a result, a period of indecision may be indicated. Decisions or actions that need to be implemented will be postponed, even if, at the time, there is a sense of urgency to act.') Her deep intent on travelling should maybe be seen in the light of this? An overt focus on her 'hobby' as she figures out what she actually wants.
Second, her mirroring. We can see the move from Magician's Apprentice to Witch's Familiar. Missy nearly gets her killed through ruthlessness/insanity, but Clara is a good pupil. We can see how she's absorbed the lessons in her little 'Work out how you're going to win' speech.
She is beginning to work very much like River - trusting him completely to find a way out. Clara's Missy-prompted: 'Because he always assumes he's going to win. He always knows there's a way to survive. He just has to go and find it.' is just another way of stating River's perfectly assured 'There's always a way out'.
(Also see my 'Missy & River are her Evil Stepmother/Fairy Godmother' thoughts in my previous meta.)
Third - spacesuit. It's the 'Waters of Mars' spacesuit again. (I'll get back to this in my Doctor section.) Last it appeared was 'Hide', which had all the mirrors ever. There, Eleven was showing it off, and Clara said it made her eyes hurt. (This time she shows it off herself.) Then, she grasped something fundamental about the Doctor as he stepped through human history ('We're all ghosts to you'), but now she has - a) scattered herself over his time line, and b) in many ways learned to see the world through his eyes. ('Oh, Clara Oswald what have I made of you?' the Doctor asks.) There's a fascinating short post here, looking at how the Doctor and Clara have almost swapped places here, when it comes to the Dr/companion dynamic.
I think abossycontrolfreak is onto something with her idea that Clara is going to become some kind of mythical figure. She is still human, yes, but there is all this talk of hybrids, and her mirrors are (have always been) the Doctor, Missy, River. She is a quantum creature, a hybrid [symbolically] from the start, a Companion apart.
Also, speaking of the spacesuit, her whole speak & spiel was pure Doctor, talking her way out of the situation. She claimed to *be* him in Death in Heaven, and she does a pretty good job...
So, Odin. First of all, this, because I realised that maybe not everyone has seen 'Monty Python and the Holy Grail' and thus would not get the reference...
Also, I want to just briefly acknowledge the pure and utter craziness of the plot, and its resolution. <3 <3 <3 Darcy was spluttering going 'Electric eels don't do that!' and I was laughing, saying how this is the show that reverses the polarity of the neutron flow, AND THEN THE DOCTOR SAID THAT EXACTLY AND I NEARLY DIED.
Please take as a given that I loved all the silliness, the daftness, all the little touches. Instead of flailing I shall focus on mythology and mirrors.
Because oh, Odin... The two fake Odins. Except one wasn't a fake - or rather, his lie had layers. They both pretended to be a Norse god, but in reality the Mire leader was merely a warrior, whereas the Doctor can - in many ways - lay claim to god-hood of his own...
I like this website's summary of Odin:
Odin is one of the most complex and enigmatic characters in Norse mythology, and perhaps in all of world literature. He’s the chief of the Aesir tribe of deities, yet he often ventures far from their kingdom, Asgard, on long, solitary wanderings throughout the cosmos on purely self-interested quests. He’s a relentless seeker after and giver of wisdom, but he has little regard for communal values such as justice, fairness, or respect for law and convention. He’s the divine patron of rulers, and also of outcasts. He’s a war-god, but also a poetry-god, and he has prominent transgender qualities that would bring unspeakable shame to any traditional Norse/Germanic warrior. He’s worshiped by those in search of prestige, honor, and nobility, yet he’s often cursed for being a fickle trickster.
[...]
Whatever their social stature, the men and women favored by Odin are distinguished by their intelligence, creativity, and competence in the proverbial “war of all against all.” Whether such people become kings or criminals is mostly a matter of luck.
I'm sure the Doctor-y parallels are pretty obvious. ;) Also his wife, Frigg, is described as a goddess associated with foreknowledge and wisdom - which is so delightfully River-y that I'll just leave it here. :)
There is the one-eyed thing (I finally love the sunglasses!) - the 'real' Odin gave up an eye in exchange for wisdom. (Whole story here. We can also see this as another parallel to Davros, with his Third eye, giving up conventional sight. Plus, Dorium Moldovar as Mimir is amusing me now.)
Over 170 names are recorded for Odin. These names are variously descriptive of attributes of the god, refer to myths involving him, or refer to religious practices associated with the god. This multitude of names makes Odin the god with the most names known among the Germanic peoples. Here are a few that I picked out as particularly fitting with the Doctor:
- 'Father of men' (or of the age/world)//'Allfather'. Again, we see him as a father figure, this ties in with how he steals Davros’ seat in the opener, where of course Davros is ‘the father of all Daleks’.
- 'Delight of Frigg'/'Dweller in Frigg's Embrace' (just ‘cause I like it. River. <3)
- 'Father of Magical Songs'
- 'Wise One', concealer
- Wanderer or Wayweary
- Deceiver/Riddler
- Swift in Deceit, Swift Tricker, Maddener, Wise in magical spells
- God Protector
- Hooded, Masked One
There are so many! Also lots about war. But the name thing is important. (See A Good Man Goes to War and every instance of 'Doctor Who?')
However, as people know, he's also the god of the dead, his Valkyries collecting the [most worthy] warriors fallen in battle, bringing them to Valhalla. Also:
His mastery of necromancy, the magical art of communicating with and raising the dead, is frequently noted.
(This makes Under the Lake/Before the Flood relevant! Dead/resurrected people are a theme. Hurrah. It also ties in with Missy's storyline & the Nethersphere, and Danny. Bringing people back is not a good thing.)
Here, however, he literally becomes Odin; a god, raising the dead...
And of all the things I was expecting this season, this wasn't it:
You can see the Pompeii episode as foreshadowing for Water of Mars, if you like (the Doctor and Donna end up as literal 'household gods' to the Roman family they save), but to revisit the Doctor's Victoriousness now? Oh, I'm THRILLED. (RTD themes revisited by Moffat are like my favourite thing in the world.)
Because although people grow and learn, their flaws do not change. And oh, these two scenes echo each other beautifully:
CLARA: You did your best. She died. There's nothing you can do.
DOCTOR: I can do anything. There's nothing I can't do. Nothing. But I'm not supposed to. Ripples, tidal waves, rules. I'm not supposed to. Oh. Oh!
[...]
DOCTOR: To remind me. To hold me to the mark. I'm the Doctor, and I save people.
(He shouts at the sky - at the Time Lords?)
DOCTOR: And if anyone happens to be listening, and you've got any kind of a problem with that, to hell with you!
~
ADELAIDE: But you said we die. For the future, for the human race.
DOCTOR: Yes, because there are laws. There are Laws of Time. Once upon a time there were people in charge of those laws, but they died. They all died. Do you know who that leaves? Me! It's taken me all these years to realise the Laws of Time are mine, and they will obey me!
[...]
ADELAIDE: Is there nothing you can't do?
DOCTOR: Not any more.
But the difference is that this time the Doctor knows enough, has come far enough to see himself clearly.
(x)
He's not going to go off like Ten did... But he still made the same kind of mistake.
Going back to the idea of hubris as one of the key-words for this season, and Clara & Twelve as Ten and Rose, we can see Twelve 'saving' Ashildr very much in the light of Rose saving Jack. Done out of the best of motives, but using power not quite within their control... And it looks like Ashildr will not be as forgiving as the good Captain. (I've tried to stay away from spoilers, so please don't tell me everything that'll happen tonight!)
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Because of responsibilities and the fact we don't have a time machine to put commitments on hold.
Poor Amy. Running while pregnant would be difficult. Rory should have found some mode of transport for Amy instead of just running off with the Doctor. Maybe a segway?.
I'll never agree with the end of Roses storyline but if RTD wants me to believe that Rose and TenToo are like two peas in a pod, then thats the only logic I can find out of it. I think I've have read too many fics where Tentoo runs off to find Donna or Alt Donna.
RTD was considering doing a spin off with Rose: Defender of the Earth at one stage but rejected the idea. Probably because it would have focused on Rose in the other dimension with Tentoo. Which would mean David Tennant would have had to commit to it as well. Too bad. It could have been an opportunity to see Rose develop into a mature woman. But I get why it didn't pan out. He could have done a cartoon version of it. They did that with K-9.
If Rose have had to deal with Twelve, I don't think she would have been attracted to him especially when he was so grumpy. Could you have imagine her reaction if she had seen the Doctor regenrate into a woman?. Moffat has made it canon since the Master became Missy.
Rose + Mickey, Adam, Jack = Nine Jealous.
Ten + Sarah Jane & Reniette = Rose Jealous.
I think Moffat was trying to make Clara's reaction to the Doctors regeneration a little different by implying that she did flirt with Eleven but will tease him over other women like Tasha Lem the galantic nun. She was also exposed to the Doctors biology compared to Rose like in "The Day of the Doctor".
She also had her doubts and didn't give up on their partnership. But once they re-established their friendship, it was Clara going overboard with being the Doctor that became the source of conflict.
In regards to Wesley, I only meant his interaction with Gunn in general.
(1) Personality clash.
(2) Fighting over Fred.
The conflict with Angel was way more serious. I did not like the whole false prophecy trope that made Wesley look misguided. I guess there had to be some source of major fall out within the group. He suffered a cut throat for it. They did a similar story line on "Xena".
I didn't like the rapid aging trope so Connor could sleep with Cordelia when not that long ago she was bottle feeding him. I only kept watching for how the characters would deal with the situation. Then Jasmine came along.
Any feedback from you is fine by me. Whenever you have the time.:)
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I should probably have marked that as a rhetorical question... ;)
Poor Amy. Running while pregnant would be difficult. Rory should have found some mode of transport for Amy instead of just running off with the Doctor. Maybe a segway?
LOL. Although they're not very safe... I'd not recommend it for a pregnant woman.
I'll never agree with the end of Roses storyline but if RTD wants me to believe that Rose and TenToo are like two peas in a pod, then thats the only logic I can find out of it. I think I've have read too many fics where Tentoo runs off to find Donna or Alt Donna.
Well, he was never attracted to Donna... The main issue, I think, would be the one
It could have been an opportunity to see Rose develop into a mature woman.
Mmmmm. This is one of my alltime favourite fics, written before Journey's End, obviously: Signature Piece. (One of my other favourites is this one: Five times the Doctor tried to get rid of Rose Tyler (and one time he succeeded) (which is very tongue-in-cheek.)
Could you have imagine her reaction if she had seen the Doctor regenrate into a woman?. Moffat has made it canon since the Master became Missy
Please tell me you have seen 'The Curse of Fatal Death'? (It's from... 1999, and although a comedy piece something every Whovian ought to watch. Moffat at his finest.)
I think Moffat was trying to make Clara's reaction to the Doctors regeneration a little different by implying that she did flirt with Eleven
Jenna once broke everyone's hearts by saying that Clara realised she was in love with the Eleventh Doctor the moment before he regenerated.
She also had her doubts and didn't give up on their partnership. But once they re-established their friendship, it was Clara going overboard with being the Doctor that became the source of conflict.
Yup.
I did not like the whole false prophecy trope that made Wesley look misguided.
Ah, but was it false? Angel DID kill his son. (I do love that show... <3)
And yeah, the Cordelia mess. Apparently Joss got angry with Charisma for getting pregnant. :(
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I put a question mark because I couldn't think of another mode of transport besides a wheel chair. There are all sorts of motorized/personalized vehicles around and yet none of them are one hundred percent safe. In Australia NSW, hover boards are banned
I saw a montage of people, including police who fell off a segway. If I had to use one I would be wearing a helmet and navigating it very slowly. In the "Runaway Bride" commentary, David Tennant was complaining that he wasn't allowed to use the key for the faster setting when riding the segway.
Ten just wanted a mate after what happened with Martha. While Donna was too busy stating how much he wasn't his type:
*He* is too skinny for words. You give him a hug you get a paper.
*... I mean, you're just a long streak of nothing, y'know, alien nothing!
I read a fic where Donna mistakes TenToo for the original Doctor and all he wanted was to hug her one last time before he went back to Rose. I think TenToo would miss having Donna in his life.:(
Is the Comic Relief scenario of regeneration canon?. I knew of it but I've never seen it properly. Did it have Jennifer Saunders in it?.
I figured Clara fancied Eleven but I didn't think it went that far. They made fun of it in "The Caretaker".
Clara assumed the responsibility of the hard choices was up to the Doctor and he was too harsh sometimes. I wonder what would have happened in "Kill The Moon" if it was written with Eleven?. When Clara came around to Twelves way of thinking she did a one eighty because:
(1) She was addicted to traveling on the TARDIS.
(2) She couldn't handle losing Danny.
Did Angel kill his son?. I don't remember that bit. Do I need to rewatch?. I thought Connor lived?.
That's unfortunate to hear about Charisma's pregnancy. Maybe Joss though that Cordelia being impregant twice didn't fit with his plans?. But it would be hard for Charisma to avoid pregnancy unless she was under contract.
On the show "Bones" they had to speed up the unresolved sexual tension between Booth and Brennan after Emily Deschanel became pregnant.
In the old series Mary Tamm, who portrayed the first Romana left on her own accord because she became pregnant.
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This is the problem with writing... You can't get any inflections in!
In Australia NSW, hover boards are banned
In the UK, you're only allowed to use them 'on private land', not on roads or pavements. (And a teenager was killed last week, I think, when his hoverboard took him under a bus.)
In the "Runaway Bride" commentary, David Tennant was complaining that he wasn't allowed to use the key for the faster setting when riding the segway.
No wonder. Although I know the staff use them in Copenhagen airport (inside!), which seems a brilliant idea - there's no traffic, and the place is huge.
I read a fic where Donna mistakes TenToo for the original Doctor and all he wanted was to hug her one last time before he went back to Rose. I think TenToo would miss having Donna in his life.:(
Oh yes. Hang on... Romantic (With A Lowercase R) (TenToo/Rose with brilliant Doctor/Donna friendship.)
Is the Comic Relief scenario of regeneration canon?. I knew of it but I've never seen it properly. Did it have Jennifer Saunders in it?.
Well Doctor Who doesn't have a canon, but since it's incompatible with the TV show, I guess it's AU. Very very funny, and of course written before the show returned. And no, not Jennifer Saunders, but Joanna Lumley and Julia Sawalha. <3
I figured Clara fancied Eleven but I didn't think it went that far. They made fun of it in "The Caretaker".
It was just a way to stab us all in the back. ;)
I wonder what would have happened in "Kill The Moon" if it was written with Eleven?
Hmmmm. Good question. I think it's one of those episodes that's just fundamentally a 'Twelve' story.
Did Angel kill his son?. I don't remember that bit. Do I need to rewatch?. I thought Connor lived?.
Well he cut his throat and wiped his memories. (Yes, he lived. But 'killed' can be may things. The prophecy at the end of S4 said that one of the companions would die, which turned out to be Donna...)
But it would be hard for Charisma to avoid pregnancy unless she was under contract.
You can't contract people not to get pregnant. :( And obviously it's awkward from a story perspective, but life happens...
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Julie Gardner was also doing "The Runaway Bride" commentary and she was focused on the safety issues of the segway. The way David Tennant was thinking of the segway as something fun, reminds me of my brother who gets excited over new toy cars. Despite the fact that he actually drove all sorts of cars as a valet when he worked in a hotel. Boys and their toys.
A man was fined for riding his hover board back and forth on his driveway. Although I saw in my local shopping mall that they are still selling this product. I guess someone didn't give them the memo. My brother was considering getting one until I showed him the news story of how dangerous it is. At the moment he uses a small scooter for short distance travel when he is not driving his car.
In Australia the reason for why hover boards are banned is because those who ride them cannot engage with pedestrians safely. We also have issues with how bike riders engage with motor vehicle drivers in traffic. There still seems to be a "us" versus "them" mentality.
The main concerns are:
(a) A bicyclist cannot keep up with the speed of the traffic with motorist
(b) Bicyclist are not obligated to the road rules like registration or other technical terms.
(c) A motorist may not have a visual of an oncoming bicyclist.
A woman was struck down by a bicyclist running a red light and all he got was a measly $64.00 fine. He didn't have to pay for her medical bills which included dental work and her rehab for other injuries. She still has to work through a report with the police. If she had been hit by a car, the motorist would have been made fully accountable.
A bicyclist was killed after someone opened their car door which pushed him against a moving truck. I still see people disregard these safety measures when they open their car door.
So once again more rules have to be implemented because people are still not getting the message about road rules. Its not just about etiquette, its also about life and death. It is disappointing when people are impatient and create road rage instead.
That's why as a pedestrian I'm quite paranoid about crossing the road and double check before I open my door to get out of a car. I almost got run over once because a motorist did not indicate. I had right of way!.
Wow. I've come a long way from just talking about Amy Pond trying to avoid running because she was heavily pregnant.
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How delightfully organised! :)
Boys and their toys.
Indeed.
My brother was considering getting one until I showed him the news story of how dangerous it is. At the moment he uses a small scooter for short distance travel when he is not driving his car.
I can't see the attraction, personally. (But then I like walking...)
We also have issues with how bike riders engage with motor vehicle drivers in traffic. There still seems to be a "us" versus "them" mentality.
Oooh yes.
So once again more rules have to be implemented because people are still not getting the message about road rules. Its not just about etiquette, its also about life and death. It is disappointing when people are impatient and create road rage instead.
*nods*
I almost got run over once because a motorist did not indicate. I had right of way!.
But they're bigger... :(
Wow. I've come a long way from just talking about Amy Pond trying to avoid running because she was heavily pregnant.
I think my rambling icon needs to get another use. (And I've had that since they released a preview clip from Vampires of Venice - from that scene - before S5 even started. I loved it so much I had a friend make an icon, but the image quality isn't great since there were no proper screencaps.)
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My brother is a bus driver now. So he goes on small walks just to get exercise. The scooter came in handy when his car broke down and he had to leave it at work. I worry for his safety when he finishes work after dark.
It is one thing for someone to almost run me over with their car. But it is quite another to give me a look like I'm some crazy pedestrian?.
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I am EXCELLENT at putting a positive spin on things!
But it is quite another to give me a look like I'm some crazy pedestrian?
Well, here's to hoping they don't kill someone before realising that pedestrians are people too...