A picture is a thousand words

[elisi]

Here's a photo of the cold, robotic Hillary Clinton who doesn't care about ordinary people. https://t.co/3Za8qO7fGk pic.twitter.com/K2S8XMsSHG

— Geoff Wisner (@geoffwisner) 17 September 2016

And this won't let me embed Huzzah:

Little Miss Flint met both Trump and Obama this year. pic.twitter.com/eH15fElHqw

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) 15 September 2016

Comments

[elisi]

I know Proton has already answered, but since I'm on my lunch...

Hillary's superpowers are that she keeps going and she knows everything. Everyone knows how wonky she is, how she knows every bit of policy to do with anything you can name. Ditto always remembers people's birthdays etc. Plus, 11 hour Benghazi hearing, where she never flagged - it all adds up to Si dominant (IMHO).

She also is most comfortable just getting on with things. Here is a problem, here's how to fix it, let's do it. If someone points out a better way, she is happy to listen & adapt. Te.

Her beliefs and motivations are private, but strong. She doesn't do well with big crowds, but can much more easily connect in small groups/with individuals. Puts her head down and carries on, because she believes she is right. (See her fight for health care.)

Finally, her Achilles heel is her control freakery. Not helped by the fact that she has been hounded by the media for 40 years, she is extremely reluctant to trust others or to relinquish control.

In short, she is the archetypal public servant. Dedicated, hardworking, would like to be left alone to just get on with it, might as well have 'duty' stamped on her forehead. Approval numbers are always going up when she is *doing* a job, and going down when campaigning. My father is an ISTJ (and works in IT), and terribly competent. But really not great with public speaking - not because he's nervous, but because it doesn't come naturally.

Like Proton said, it always seemed almost painfully obvious to me. Plus, ISTJs are not naturally 'warm' in the way that, f.ex, Obama is. Not that they aren't great (my father has a brilliant sense of humour), but they are reserved.

[owlboy]

>>Everyone knows how wonky she is, how she knows every bit of policy to do with anything you can name.

Well... she's a lawyer. That's what they do, lol.

I hate crowds and public speaking and I ain't no introvert.

[elisi]

I fail to see how either of these points discredit my typing...

[owlboy]

1. Cultivated skills don't define your type.

2. Being uncomfortable / awkward in social situations doesn't make you an introvert.

[elisi]

1. True, but how do you know that it's cultivated? It seems to me to be innate.

2. True. But it's not proof she's an extrovert either.

[promethia_tenk]

Cultivated skills don't define your type.
Yes, but transferrable skills do. Yes, other types can cultivate this acute detail-orientedness to accomplish certain things, but when it's your first, instinctive way to attack pretty much everything, that's a dominant function.

[owlboy]

It suggests a decent level of Sensing, but I'm still not seeing how it makes her an introverted Si dom.

I don't care enough about Hillary Clinton to keep arguing about it anyway.

[elisi]

(speak softly & use Promethia_tenk)

[owlboy]

Ok?

[elisi]

x

;)

[owlboy]

I'm well aware of what the phrase is, I don't get why you think it's relevant apart from being deliberately aggravating.

[elisi]

Sorry. But I knew I had Proton to back me up...

(Let me have this one. I convinced the INTP that I was right. Or she convinced herself that I was right. Either way, I can't remember that ever happening before.)

[owlboy]

Your argument for Si still makes no sense, so no

[elisi]

Ditto your argument for ENTJ, so I guess we'll have to disagree. :)

[owlboy]

Someone's in a vindictive troll mood today I guess

bye

[elisi]

:(

Not really. Just tired & a bit sad.

[promethia_tenk]

Owls, I have been avoiding talking to you about Clinton for months for this very reason: you insist on being a pill about it.

[owlboy]

I'm wasn't mad about Hillary, I was mad about my friend using my other friend against me in a ''ner ner ner'' kind of way.

[elisi]

I didn't mean to upset you.

Trust me to do humour wrong. Sorry. :(

[elisi]

'One of Jake Sullivan’s favorite stories about Clinton comes from August 2011, when she was still at the State Department. The recession was over but employment was sluggish, and Obama had asked his Cabinet secretaries to pass along ideas they might have for boosting job creation. Most sent short notes. Clinton submitted a 12-page single-spaced memo. Among the ideas Clinton suggested were an infrastructure bank, speeding up the retrofit of buildings to make them energy efficient, and taking more aggressive steps to curb currency manipulation by China. Complete with references. (“Classic Hillary,” was one reaction from within the White House.)

To map out her 2016 agenda, Clinton created a process akin to a college seminar, complete with required reading. She hauled around issue binders and cross-examined the experts who rotated through Brooklyn to brief her. These included Raj Chetty, a Stanford professor and MacArthur “Genius” fellow who is one of the world’s most influential economists. At a lunch session that lasted several hours, Chetty presented his research about the effects of inequality on children. He spoke about an old federal program that had proved more successful than researchers initially realized, and Clinton “got really excited,” Chetty recalls. She told him she had followed the debate over the program since her time as first lady.'
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