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A picture is a thousand words
Here's a photo of the cold, robotic Hillary Clinton who doesn't care about ordinary people. https://t.co/3Za8qO7fGk pic.twitter.com/K2S8XMsSHG
— Geoff Wisner (@geoffwisner) 17 September 2016
Little Miss Flint met both Trump and Obama this year. pic.twitter.com/eH15fElHqw
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) 15 September 2016
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<3
Although yes, it's easy to see where Trump got it from. Even so, there is definitely something wrong with him. Many guys grow up without fatherly love. They don't all turn into compulsively lying narcissists.
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However, from all accounts (from people who know her, or have met her) she is a genuinely warm and caring person, and it's deeply annoying that the media keep pushing a different agenda. She can be smart and wonky and focussed on the job AND be kind & caring at the same time. Women contain multitudes.
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Darn, must run, but will be back.
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Hillary's superpowers are that she keeps going and she knows everything. Everyone knows how wonky she is, how she knows every bit of policy to do with anything you can name. Ditto always remembers people's birthdays etc. Plus, 11 hour Benghazi hearing, where she never flagged - it all adds up to Si dominant (IMHO).
She also is most comfortable just getting on with things. Here is a problem, here's how to fix it, let's do it. If someone points out a better way, she is happy to listen & adapt. Te.
Her beliefs and motivations are private, but strong. She doesn't do well with big crowds, but can much more easily connect in small groups/with individuals. Puts her head down and carries on, because she believes she is right. (See her fight for health care.)
Finally, her Achilles heel is her control freakery. Not helped by the fact that she has been hounded by the media for 40 years, she is extremely reluctant to trust others or to relinquish control.
In short, she is the archetypal public servant. Dedicated, hardworking, would like to be left alone to just get on with it, might as well have 'duty' stamped on her forehead. Approval numbers are always going up when she is *doing* a job, and going down when campaigning. My father is an ISTJ (and works in IT), and terribly competent. But really not great with public speaking - not because he's nervous, but because it doesn't come naturally.
Like Proton said, it always seemed almost painfully obvious to me. Plus, ISTJs are not naturally 'warm' in the way that, f.ex, Obama is. Not that they aren't great (my father has a brilliant sense of humour), but they are reserved.
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Well... she's a lawyer. That's what they do, lol.
I hate crowds and public speaking and I ain't no introvert.
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2. Being uncomfortable / awkward in social situations doesn't make you an introvert.
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2. True. But it's not proof she's an extrovert either.
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Yes, but transferrable skills do. Yes, other types can cultivate this acute detail-orientedness to accomplish certain things, but when it's your first, instinctive way to attack pretty much everything, that's a dominant function.
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I don't care enough about Hillary Clinton to keep arguing about it anyway.
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;)
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(Let me have this one. I convinced the INTP that I was right. Or she convinced herself that I was right. Either way, I can't remember that ever happening before.)
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bye
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Not really. Just tired & a bit sad.
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Trust me to do humour wrong. Sorry. :(
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To map out her 2016 agenda, Clinton created a process akin to a college seminar, complete with required reading. She hauled around issue binders and cross-examined the experts who rotated through Brooklyn to brief her. These included Raj Chetty, a Stanford professor and MacArthur “Genius” fellow who is one of the world’s most influential economists. At a lunch session that lasted several hours, Chetty presented his research about the effects of inequality on children. He spoke about an old federal program that had proved more successful than researchers initially realized, and Clinton “got really excited,” Chetty recalls. She told him she had followed the debate over the program since her time as first lady.'
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I was re-thinking my typing of Clinton the other day, btw, by comparing her to Martha Stewart. I think Clinton is an ISTJ after all. Martha, who is definitely an ESTJ, for all her icy, perfect, corporate queen of dominance thing, she knows how to work with Ne (did you hear that she and Snoop Dog are going to have a cooking show together? The Atlantic had to write an article about why she's awesome. Also, if you're ever having a bad day, search for Martha Stewart and Conan O'Brien. Actually, no, the world is a scary place right now, just watch this immediately. Trust.) But you never really see Martha Stewart touch anything Fi-related.
Clinton, conversely, had always been reserved, but has really been able to turn on the Fi-appeals this election cycle. She's got that classic, awkward, inferior-Ne reaction to whimsey, though. And, like many an ISJ, she makes a great subject of a Ne joke--you know that all the best memes around her were created by other people, and that she's kind of the bemused onlooker. So, yeah, ISTJ.
The upshot of all of this, of course, is that the Clinton campaign should hire Martha Stewart as a personal image consultant for Hillary.
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ETA: forgot to lol @ 'fuck-clump.'
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- Overall slippery car salesman vibe
- Third Way politics is basically what happens when you give a soppy liberal a conservative S-ish work ethic
- They based Peter Florrick on him for a reason
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Does he have a thing for hats?
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Between Two Ferns
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I'd say that's pretty much QED, though.
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But she's game, bless her. She really tries.
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The ESJs you can catch flat-footed or in a bad mood sometimes, but generally they'll fire back.
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Like - that whole quip about being constructed in Palo Alto (I think?) and riffing off of that in the pod cast some months back? Totally on the ball. This? /o\
Humour is a strange thing.
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Little Miss Flint met both Trump and Obama this year...
Yes, she certainly did...
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Indeed :)
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Little Miss Flint looks like she wants to run away in that Trump photo.
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And yes, I could watch that gif over and over and over. She just so excited.
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I can't believe the difference between the two men and that we may actually go from one to the other as POTUS.
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IKR? Just the sheer joy is infectious.
I can't believe the difference between the two men and that we may actually go from one to the other as POTUS.
I refuse to believe it. You'll have a Grandma in charge, and she will be awesome.
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Love these! Thank you!
*HUGS*
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Stacey
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Stacey
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