elisi | Imzy

So, I am slowly trying to get on top of stuff. (Had to go back to skip=100 to catch up on my flist...)

And remembered that I signed up to Imzy. (Partly just so no one else would take 'elisi'.)

Apparently you can only follow communities, not friend other users, and I think that means that elisi is a community? Please let me know if you are there and I'll add you.

I also found this article: Imzy: Can an Ex-Reddit Exec Really Hack the Online Abuse Problem?, which helped explain a lot of why the set-up is the way it is. (The Whys behind the Whos are always useful.)

Oh and I have ~~five~~ two invites [left] if anyone wants one. :)

(The name is good. It sounds whimsical and odd. And does anyone know how to customise beyond adding a userpic? I've looked, but not in any depth.)

ETA: Right, so I went ahead & created a Doctor Who meta community:

Mirrorleaf

Come join me! :)

ETA2: Omg, managing/setting up a community is so much better/clearer than setting up a personal account. Like, you can find stuff, and it makes sense!!

Flat | Top-Level Comments Only

*raises hand*

Interested in checking the place out so an invite would be good!

I will need your email address (I should probably have put that in the post), although you can email me on elisi at livejournal dot com if you don't want to write your email address in a public post.

(Everyone can set up their LJ name as a forwarding email account through LJ - I can't remember if you have to set it up, or if it just works automatically...)

louise at dennis-sellers dot com, please.

It's in the post! :)

Yay! I've joined.

I've signed up to mirrorleaf but I'm failing to find elisi...

You can't friend people, only join communities. So... I'm there, but you have to reply to my post in the community if you want to talk. BIT STRANGE.

I am lol'ing all over this post. There are these things. They're called forums . . .

I never liked forums. I found them annoying & confusing and un-intuitive in the extreme. Also full of idiots.

As I say somewhere else in comments, Imzy seems to be the opposite of Tumblr.

You know, I think I'm approaching ten years on LJ and I still feel fundamentally like an outsider sometimes? The LJ mentality has always sat weirdly with me (I know I've talked about this before). I'm much for comfortable with the forum approach to online interactions and the sorts of . . . cultural assumptions that underlie it?

On LJ and other journaling platforms (I include Tumblr in this) the culture is individual-first and relationship-first. The assumption is that you will establish an online person and space and production for yourself and that you will establish formal relationships with other posters and this is the foundation for anything you do on the platform. You can use the platform in other ways (by setting up a shell account for yourself and just floating, lurking, and commenting where you see fit) but the assumption and cultural push is that you will become a proper member with posts and a flist and all that.

A forum works very differently: the center of organization, the cultural priority, the focus is on the idea or the conversation and it is expected that you will drop in and contribute wherever you have something of importance to add. There is no necessary imperative to introduce yourself or create a persona for yourself. If you have enough good ideas and contribute enough you probably will establish a persona and relationships and a community (the best forums usually have these things), but these are side-effects of having enough good conversations/ideas.

I mean, I think there is a lot of overlap between the two, but those underlying assumptions and priorities dictate a lot.

I never liked forums. I found them annoying & confusing and un-intuitive in the extreme. Also full of idiots.
No, that's just humanity.

As I say somewhere else in comments, Imzy seems to be the opposite of Tumblr.
I could see that, in that they are prioritizing conversations over all else. Whereas Tumblr prioritizes . . . cat gifs? Or at any rate, whereas Tumblr is not designed in any way to facilitate conversation. At all.

It sounds to me that they are trying to make the Dreamwidth of Reddit.

I mean, I think there is a lot of overlap between the two, but those underlying assumptions and priorities dictate a lot.
Sorry I've been so slow to reply...

I definitely see what you mean, and I very much like the social aspect of LJ. (Tumblr is sort of missing the forum aspect almost entirely? You can't create communities, and the focus in on reblogging, not creating conversations. Of course that doesn't mean people don't or can't communicate, but it's still a terrible set-up for doing so.)

I guess I like LJ because it has both - the communities and the blogs and the lurkers. Forums are very good for single issue discussions, which I can see appealing to an INTP. ;)

No, that's just humanity.
True, there are idiots everywhere. But they're easier to avoid on LJ & other places, as you tailor your flist/dashboard/whatever so you only interact with those you want. Forums make that a lot more difficult. See whedonesque, where the mods make it unusable for a good majority of the fandom, which means that they just go somewhere else, creating a much narrower focus.

Which is why Imzy could be a good thing - a forum-like set-up, but with good mods sounds like something worth pursuing.

I could see that, in that they are prioritizing conversations over all else. Whereas Tumblr prioritizes . . . cat gifs? Or at any rate, whereas Tumblr is not designed in any way to facilitate conversation. At all.
Which I just said (having completely failed to read further down), but yes. It seems to breed trolls.

It sounds to me that they are trying to make the Dreamwidth of Reddit.
Heh. Perfect description. Should have used that, and probably will! :)

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