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Dogtor Who. (All 12 Time Lords (and the War Doctor) as dogs.) Adore this to absolute pieces. With many thanks to ![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
curiouswombat.
This Guy Gets 10 Formal Office Complaints, What He Gets Them For Will Make You Laugh, A Lot.
Society's New Rules (according to the internet). Make sure to read the WHOLE disclaimer.
BBC Gallery - The Girl in the Fireplace: Behind the Scenes. A mixture of rare and familiar shots from the making of this 2006 episode.
ETA: I... have no words. (Although if you're at work, turn the volume down.)
curiouswombat.This Guy Gets 10 Formal Office Complaints, What He Gets Them For Will Make You Laugh, A Lot.
Society's New Rules (according to the internet). Make sure to read the WHOLE disclaimer.
BBC Gallery - The Girl in the Fireplace: Behind the Scenes. A mixture of rare and familiar shots from the making of this 2006 episode.
ETA: I... have no words. (Although if you're at work, turn the volume down.)
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The lady with the sponge...LOL, but I can see how that would be utterly addictive. Can she come help decorate my condo? : D
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Me too! ♥ (It was HILARIOUS being in fandom the week it aired. Half my flist was outraged because Ten had ~upset Rose running off with that French so-and-so, whereas my reaction was to be thrilled because he got laid. (A sure indicator I was not cut out to be a Ten/Rose shipper... *g*).) Seriously though, a gorgeous episode through and through.
The lady with the sponge...LOL, but I can see how that would be utterly addictive. Can she come help decorate my condo? : D
I'm sure she would if you asked her!
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Oh, I was a Ten-Rose 'shipper AND a Ten-Reinette 'shipper AND a Ten-Master 'shipper AND a Ten-River 'shipper. I think I did at least one fanfic story for each of those pairings. I loved Ten with Rose, but I had no problems whatsoever with him running off with Reinette for a few hours, especially since she was so awesome. I loved how she stood down the robots and said "WE are FRENCH" to rally the courage of her subjects. Her death at the end (and the Doctor's reaction to it) was just heartbreaking.
I really didn't get the dislike of the character--maybe it's just the whole "normal girl" viewers identifying with the "normal girl" character, and feeling threatened when a "pretty girl" character comes along and steals the guy away from the "normal girl" character? (If that's the case, maybe the viewers need more help than a TV show should be obliged to give them). ; )
Incredible episode. This one and "Empty Child/ Doctor Dances" are what convinced me that Moff has some exceptional storytelling abilities. (How the hell he ever keeps everything straight in his head is beyond me).
Oddly, the only character I've shipped Eleven with is River. Whereas I could see Ten with any number of other characters, Eleven struck me as much more of a one-woman man, even if he did flirt sometimes. (I don't think the Doctor can ever NOT flirt).
I wonder if the sponge lady does curtains, too? If so, she's welcome to help me decide what to put on my windows. : )
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That's the way to do it!!! (And I've written Ten/Rose - several times - and am rather fond of them. <3)
I loved Ten with Rose, but I had no problems whatsoever with him running off with Reinette for a few hours, especially since she was so awesome. I loved how she stood down the robots and said "WE are FRENCH" to rally the courage of her subjects. Her death at the end (and the Doctor's reaction to it) was just heartbreaking.
Mmmm, yes. Also the whole episode was a lovely complimentary story to School Reunion.
I really didn't get the dislike of the character--maybe it's just the whole "normal girl" viewers identifying with the "normal girl" character, and feeling threatened when a "pretty girl" character comes along and steals the guy away from the "normal girl" character? (If that's the case, maybe the viewers need more help than a TV show should be obliged to give them). ; )
LOL. (This is the funniest post ever on the subject!)
Incredible episode. This one and "Empty Child/ Doctor Dances" are what convinced me that Moff has some exceptional storytelling abilities. (How the hell he ever keeps everything straight in his head is beyond me).
He is magic.
Oddly, the only character I've shipped Eleven with is River. Whereas I could see Ten with any number of other characters, Eleven struck me as much more of a one-woman man, even if he did flirt sometimes. (I don't think the Doctor can ever NOT flirt).
*nods*
I wonder if the sponge lady does curtains, too? If so, she's welcome to help me decide what to put on my windows. : )
They'd probably be wiggly curtains...
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Writing fanfic is an interesting experience, especially when it comes to characters who aren't necessarily my favorites. Jack and Martha (and some of the Torchwood folks) have shown up as guest players in my stories, and I always try to do well by them, even if they're not the main focus. I always enjoy the opportunity to flesh out and make subtle "revisions" to canon. My pet theory about Martha is that she ran off with the Doctor less because she was in love with him and more because she needed to get away from her crazy family. Stuff like that.
LOL, thank you SO MUCH for that link! (I'm pretty sure Scarletgirl also used to post over on Television Without Pity; her name seems familiar). Really fabulous insights. I try not to go too crazy with shipping TV characters (or characters from any work-in-progress) because I know sooner or later I'm very apt to be disappointed. I learned this the (very) hard way back on Buffy, when I had Oz and Willow's future all mapped out: grad school, marriage, kids, the works. Then Seth Green decided to leave the show and Willow became a lesbian. LOL. Oops! ; )
One of the nice things about shipping River-Doctor is that there's so much wiggle room. You know how it begins, how it ends, but there's so much potential for unseen adventures between the episodes, you can easily write about a romantic side-trip they took to such-and-such planet. : )
I can only imagine the hand-printed fabric that the sponge lady could create. She could also add a splash of color to my plain white cabinets. : )
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I liked her, but never found her very interesting. (I don't generally latch onto 'viewer avatars' - for me it was all about the Doctor. *g*)
I liked Martha, but the third season definitely felt like it had a Rose-shaped hole in it. I liked the fourth season much better, partly because Donna, like Rose, had a kind of "ecosystem" with her that made her feel more complete as a character. I always felt like RTD was maybe too busy getting Torchwood off the ground to pay as much attention to Martha as he should have. Also in hindsight, I think Russell was more interested in writing about the Master (don't blame him, LOL) than he ever was about Martha.
Yes, some truth in that, but I find Martha a lot more rewarding, characterwise. There's a lot to mine in her story, and her future, whereas Rose & Donna both got tied up with a neat bow. (Not that I don't like them, Donna esp. is awesome, but I don't have a lot to say about them.)
My pet theory about Martha is that she ran off with the Doctor less because she was in love with him and more because she needed to get away from her crazy family. Stuff like that.
*nods* But, like I try to explain above, her convoluted relationship with the Doctor is more rewarding (for me), than Rose's (starcrossed lovers) or Donna's (lost BFF).
LOL, thank you SO MUCH for that link! (I'm pretty sure Scarletgirl also used to post over on Television Without Pity; her name seems familiar). Really fabulous insights.
Quite possibly. She's been around for a long time.
I learned this the (very) hard way back on Buffy, when I had Oz and Willow's future all mapped out: grad school, marriage, kids, the works. Then Seth Green decided to leave the show and Willow became a lesbian. LOL. Oops! ; )
My OTPs just DIE. And are emotionally incapable of expressing their feelings. :(
One of the nice things about shipping River-Doctor is that there's so much wiggle room. You know how it begins, how it ends, but there's so much potential for unseen adventures between the episodes, you can easily write about a romantic side-trip they took to such-and-such planet. : )
Thissssss. (And Doctor/River is the odd one out, because they get together and get MARRIED and LOVE EACH OTHER, but are still deliciously screwed up.)
I can only imagine the hand-printed fabric that the sponge lady could create. She could also add a splash of color to my plain white cabinets. : )
You might need glasses...
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I found Rose more relatable than interesting, in some ways. Weirdly, Martha is a lot more like me--middle child, academically ambitious, closer to her mother than to her father--than Rose will ever be. I think if I ever met someone like Rose, I probably wouldn't like her very much. But in terms of the characters, Rose generally felt more fleshed-out to me. I think a lot of that was that she had a particular environment and there were people in her life who felt more like characters in their own right. The other Joneses always felt like ciphers to me. I actually had a half-written parody fic in my head for a while called "Poker Night on the Valiant," where everyone was sitting around the long table waiting for Martha to show up and get the plot moving. ; ) The Joneses would say things like, "We have no existence without Martha."
My OTPs just DIE. And are emotionally incapable of expressing their feelings. :(
LOL!! I'm glad I never got too attached to anyone on Torchwood. It seriously took me three or four years to get over Oz leaving Buffy (I held out hope until the bitter end that Seth Green might come back at least for a block of guest episodes, but no such luck). : / Ten-Rose was actually the first TV pair I'd shipped since the Buffy days, and I was glad that by the time I started watching the show, I already knew Rose was leaving. So she was gone before I hit the point of obsessive personal investment.
(And Doctor/River is the odd one out, because they get together and get MARRIED and LOVE EACH OTHER, but are still deliciously screwed up.)
Plus, they have their separate lives. River's not in every episode. So there's none of the over-familiarity of a character who's there all the time. If you 'ship them, you can have them as happy or as miserable or as messed up as you want them to be. There's a lot of room to play around. (Moff is really a clever bastard with River--he gets to have his cake and eat it, too). I can't wait to see if she pops up again during Twelve's tenure. It would certainly throw her comments about Ten looking "so young" into a whole new light. : )
You might need glasses...
Sunglasses, more like, to keep from being blinded. : )
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I've not really got anything to add. Rose *was* more fleshed out - and relatable - partly because she was our guide to the Doctor. We (the audience and Rose) discovered him together, so she needed to be someone instantly familiar.
I actually had a half-written parody fic in my head for a while called "Poker Night on the Valiant," where everyone was sitting around the long table waiting for Martha to show up and get the plot moving. ; ) The Joneses would say things like, "We have no existence without Martha."
LOL.
LOL!! I'm glad I never got too attached to anyone on Torchwood.
Ianto's death is the worst [fannish] thing to ever have happened. Before him I didn't know that you could mourn fictional characters.
It seriously took me three or four years to get over Oz leaving Buffy (I held out hope until the bitter end that Seth Green might come back at least for a block of guest episodes, but no such luck). : /
:(
Ten-Rose was actually the first TV pair I'd shipped since the Buffy days, and I was glad that by the time I started watching the show, I already knew Rose was leaving. So she was gone before I hit the point of obsessive personal investment.
Also companions are by their nature transient. The whole show works on continued change, so that helps.
Plus, they have their separate lives. River's not in every episode. So there's none of the over-familiarity of a character who's there all the time.
That's it. And she stays a bit of a mystery. They're out of synch, so 'When are they' becomes a feature.
If you 'ship them, you can have them as happy or as miserable or as messed up as you want them to be. There's a lot of room to play around. (Moff is really a clever bastard with River--he gets to have his cake and eat it, too)
Thisssss.
I can't wait to see if she pops up again during Twelve's tenure. It would certainly throw her comments about Ten looking "so young" into a whole new light. : )
Heeeeee. Although I'm torn. Part of me says MOAR RIVER, YES, and another says BUT SHE BELONGS WITH ELEVEN! (See the header I made...)
Sunglasses, more like, to keep from being blinded. : )
LOL