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Icon meme.
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red_satin_doll gave me the following icons to talk about...1)
longlongtime by sdwolfpup
One of my very, very first icons. The text 'they felt like they'd lived a long, long time' is adapted from the book Wesley reads to Fred in AHiTW, the scene cutting to Spike and Angel:
She was such a little girl that one did not expect to see such a look on her small face. It would have been an old look for a child of twelve, and Sara Crewe was only seven. The fact was, however, that she was always dreaming and thinking odd things and could not herself remember any time when she had not been thinking things about grown-up people and the world they belonged to. She felt as if she had lived a long, long time.
So it's an icon I use when I want to focus on the age and history of Spike & Angel - or when I need a beautiful icon of a tree. I love how small they are in relation to it, and how you need to know the show in order to understand what the image is about.
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It's a good fandom by killmebecomemememe
Pretty much what it says on the tin. One of those 'I like my show' statements, which beautifully illustrates that just because it deals with a lot of problematic issues doesn't mean that it doesn't know right from wrong. Buffy might not be perfect, but neither is real life...
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Smile Fan by buttersideup
Now this one is one I picked up specifically because back in the day there were a lot of people who were angry about the very end of the show. Why did the Scoobies banter when so many had died? Why did Buffy smile when she'd just lost Spike? However, I always loved the smile, loved the fact that Buffy was free, that Spike's final gift to her was herself and her future, unfettered by destiny. She could live, again. (Also see Forget-me-not by
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Everything is connected by me
This one's... complicated. It's the cover of a Doctor Who tie-in novel. But not in the conventional sense - it's a book that appears in the show (written by one of the characters), but it is now a real book that you can buy and read (I'm currently reading it as a bedtime story to my two younger daughters, as it's a children's book). The book itself deals with a lot of the imagery and symbolism in the show (Moffat Who is all mirrors, dear god), but even more than that, the new paperback version has a new introduction, which ties in directly with one of the current (major) plot-lines. So - everything is connected. Kate Webster is a fictional character (in a book), created by another fictional character (on a TV show), and her adventures are referenced on the TV show... Stories within stories within stories. It's a maze and I love it.
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Don't Mess with River Song by meathiel
My 'corresponding' icon on DreamWidth is this one, which I sort of like better, but they both do the same thing of neatly pointing out River's total and utter bad-assery. The icon is from S5, so at the time I didn't even know *why* she was so amazing - she just was. Mostly people should heed the warning on the icon, as no one lasts long if they come up against River. (River > known universe + all the rest)
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Time(Lords) can be rewritten by kathyh
This one is one I asked Kathy to make for me. It draws on the line 'Time can be rewritten' (Doctor Who is a show about time travel, and they explore all the possibilities in great detail), but applies it to the Doctor himself, as a lot of people had trouble adjusting to the differences between Ten and Eleven. So it's an icon I use when I need to highlight the differences between them, and how things have changed. And how that's OK. (The image comes from an official poster. I especially like Ten's seriousness, and Eleven's smile.)
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S7 love by cleapet (not sharable)
As one of the people to set up
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lateseasonlove (a shelter for those who liked the later seasons of Buffy and wanted a safe place), it's no surprise that I am fond of S7. Not that I am not enamoured of the dysfunctional nature of S6, but S6 is only half the story - it needs the relative calm of S7 to balance it. S6 breaks everything, and S7 puts in back together. Where Spike and Buffy burned and blazed in S6, in S7 they talk, they connect, they acknowledge that their bonds run far deeper than Buffy has been willing to admit until then - and she finally gives rather than takes. No love (not until the end) but something more important at that time: Trust, respect, belief. So yes, S7 has my heart, and I asked to be able to use this icon (which was made specifically for someone else), and was granted permission.
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the danger with Ten was that he'd lose it.
Ah, you see, to me it always seemed as if he was losing it, generally to no great effect. The only times I ever thought of him as dangerous were when he was very quiet. When he got noisy, I generally was just embarrassed for him.
Of course, "losing it" can mean far more than being noisy, I readily admit.
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I was thinking specifically of Waters of Mars, and deciding that he's actually [a] god. Ten has an unhinged quality to him. See this post, but in short: His intentions are good but it hardly matters, because at the edge of his tolerance Ten would probably burn the world to reach them. He has all the power of utter desperation at his fingertips, and it's never very far away.
(This is why he had to die.)
I think we mean the same, really, we just use different words.)
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I also think the way you said this: .. at the edge of his tolerance Ten would probably burn the world to reach (his good intentions) is elegantly correct.
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No worries. We all have days like that (and you especially at the moment I'm sure), plus it's always good to get some push back on ideas - discussion is of the good!
I also think the way you said this: .. at the edge of his tolerance Ten would probably burn the world to reach (his good intentions) is elegantly correct.
It was actually a quote from a post by
butting in here...
That's fascinating to know that it was originally about Wesley, because it might just sum up in a single sentence why all the "dark Wesley" love I found in fandom when I first came into it turned me off a little and still does. I love and feel for Buffy in S6 so I can get that part of it; but all the repetitions that he was "cool" and "badass" because he'd shoot someone in the leg for almost no reason or capable of casual cruelty (whilst the same people found Buffy intolerable in S6) really illustrates how similar arcs or behaviors are interpreted and received much differently in male characters to female ones.
Re: butting in here...
Buffy's temperament is very, very different, even if she ends up in some of the same places.
Mind you - the man!pain trope is very, very compelling, for all kinds of reasons... Which doesn't make it right, of course. (It rains because you're sad. Oh my darling broken things.) Mind you, it's great for poking fun at them too! ;)
ETA: "I can't believe I forgot how Denisof as Wesley can stand there and exude pain. It's like a superpower."
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