Well, I think sex is actually inherently good, which is why I see the treating it as merely another preference (like eating) to be bad.
I don't actually agree with the original poster - I did follow the links, and my stance is different. Was just using the comments to springboard my own opinions. Sorry if that confused you.
As for Firefly without sexuality, I don't think that's what I meant when I said that Inara's scenes and plotlines were often gratuitous. I just think they didn't deal with much more than titillation, rather than a serious look at what the concept of a Companion would actually mean. More "Oooh, look, hot girl having lots of consequence-free sex that we get to watch" more than "Hmm, if this profession were legal, what would a person do who lived it?"
I didn't say "All Kaylee wants from Simon is sex," I said "IF etc etc." And I don't think that's all she wants. I merely think that Serenity (the film) did a poor job of showing what she and Simon really mean to each other aside from pure physical attraction. Yes, she has lots of poignant moments which show that there is much attachment, but there's no discussion of why - no "Touched" speech, or "Amends" debate about what it means. Just "I ain't had nothing twixt my nethers" - if that was all we had to go on (and thank goodness it isn't) Kaylee would seem kinda shallow.
Actually, in my own fan-wank view of Kaylee, she begins as someone who doesn't really care much about developing a relationship - as evidenced by her boinking Bester. However, after about a year with Mal, she has matured to the point that she wants more than just a good time, and so when Simon offers that kind of commitment (even though he can't say it, dear boy), she can wait for it. I doubt many people think of her character as changing this way, but it makes me happier.
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(Anonymous) 2006-06-27 06:29 pm (UTC)(link)I don't actually agree with the original poster - I did follow the links, and my stance is different. Was just using the comments to springboard my own opinions. Sorry if that confused you.
As for Firefly without sexuality, I don't think that's what I meant when I said that Inara's scenes and plotlines were often gratuitous. I just think they didn't deal with much more than titillation, rather than a serious look at what the concept of a Companion would actually mean. More "Oooh, look, hot girl having lots of consequence-free sex that we get to watch" more than "Hmm, if this profession were legal, what would a person do who lived it?"
I didn't say "All Kaylee wants from Simon is sex," I said "IF etc etc." And I don't think that's all she wants. I merely think that Serenity (the film) did a poor job of showing what she and Simon really mean to each other aside from pure physical attraction. Yes, she has lots of poignant moments which show that there is much attachment, but there's no discussion of why - no "Touched" speech, or "Amends" debate about what it means. Just "I ain't had nothing twixt my nethers" - if that was all we had to go on (and thank goodness it isn't) Kaylee would seem kinda shallow.
Actually, in my own fan-wank view of Kaylee, she begins as someone who doesn't really care much about developing a relationship - as evidenced by her boinking Bester. However, after about a year with Mal, she has matured to the point that she wants more than just a good time, and so when Simon offers that kind of commitment (even though he can't say it, dear boy), she can wait for it. I doubt many people think of her character as changing this way, but it makes me happier.
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