elisi: Edwin holding a tiny snowman (Mock!Biley by crackers4jenn)
elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2005-12-27 04:07 pm

Me is slow!

Just finished watching 'Doppelgangland' (on Sky One) and realised that Vamp!Willow kills a 'Sandy' (must have vamped her while the cameras weren't looking). Checked up, and it *is* the same Sandy that bites Riley! God, I'm such a geek! ETA: Played by the same actress, Megan Gray.

ETA #2: When they refuse to help Anya at the end, she says: "Just wait till I get my powers back - you will all tremble before me!" Which with hindsight... *sniff* Only she trembled. Poor Anya.

In other news, 'Bones' is starting on Sky One in the new year! Yay. :)

[identity profile] pfeifferpack.livejournal.com 2005-12-27 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup...so much for all the stuff that happened in the Wishverse disappearing when the necklace was crushed!

You know, thats when I actually came to hate Riley! She had come on to him in the demon bar and he said he wasn't interested in a vampire. She just smiled and went about her business. Riley sought her out, made it look like he was interested in a roundevoux that included bities and then staked her! She wasn't a threat and he knew it. She had left him alone when asked. I had hated the bully characteristics in him up till then (and his staking of Spike counted as that IMHO), but that really ended any positive feeling I had for him then.

When he left Buffy facing the threat of Glory (who had seriously kicked her bottom and was an unknown hostile at the time), a mom just out of hospital (and unknown prognosis) and the "dangerous" Spike "stalking" her because she didn't forgive him instantly for putting them all at risk with his vamp bite fetish proved his "love" for what it was IMHO.

Grr argh....

I noticed the connection late too BTW.

Kathleen

[identity profile] pfeifferpack.livejournal.com 2005-12-27 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
You DO know you are evil, right? *tee hee*

Yes, it happend in the actual Buffy verse, but what I meant was that I have read people say that when the necklace was broken, all that happened in The Wish was reversed (said to absolve Anyanka usually). If that were true, Sandy would not have been vamped because there would not have been a vampWillow to turn her anyway. Doppelgangland showed the Wishverse was still around but it was folding time as well to before the necklace was broken.....GAAAAHHHH my head just exploded!

The part about all Anyanka's work being undone is hooey (it became an alternate universe, obviously, for them to bring VampWillow to ours and Sandy to be turned by her).
Kathleen

[identity profile] pfeifferpack.livejournal.com 2005-12-27 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yes they are indeed! Whenever I'd point out that Anyanka's death toll had to be much higher than even Angel and Spike combined and that Anya never showed a moments remorse for the mayhem laid at her door I was hit with comments about how all her spells had been reversed when she was made human. I never got an answer about how that man she turned into a demon was still a demon and able to sabotage her wedding *G*. It bothered me that I had several people at the Bronze (the "official" fan site for years) tell me that this was canon. pffffft, I say!

I'm with you, that became an alternate dimension. And I still contend that Anya had more blood on her hands than any of the regulars (Willow would have beat her out if Xander hadn't stopped her since it would have been the entire population of the planet!)

I'm glad WE are sane (well, I am most of the time anyway).

Kathleen

[identity profile] mikeygs.livejournal.com 2005-12-27 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
This should reverse all the wishes she's granted,

;) You gotta admit one thing about Whedon, he always leaves an out for himself. Turns out it was just the last one. :)

I never really thought it absolved her, either and fanwank aside, I'm not sure it was ever supposed to. Most of the time when you hear that stuff, there's an anti-something agenda behind. That said, though, I've never been big on the equating Anya and Spike thing. Apples and oranges, IMO.



[identity profile] avrelia.livejournal.com 2005-12-27 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I am never sure whether it is the same Sandy - we just saw Willow killing her - actually snapping her neck, not even biting. When would she manage to become a vampire?

On the other hand, we've never seen Harmony going through the process of becoming vampire either.
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[personal profile] ringthebells 2005-12-27 06:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh. Neat. I'm glad you pointed that out! Though the "how did she actually get vamped?" question does seem a bit sticky.
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[personal profile] ringthebells 2005-12-27 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I'm glad to hear you've enjoyed my Christmas posts! I'm feeling a bit cut off from fandom since I haven't had the time lately to go reading my fannish flist, so I'm glad I was able to get a few of you fannish types into my RL flist! :)

[identity profile] lillianmorgan.livejournal.com 2005-12-27 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Poor Anya indeed ::sniffle::
That's amazing about the Sandy vampire. I wonder if they meant that or whether it was happy coincedence?

[identity profile] kittyzams.livejournal.com 2005-12-28 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
You are so observant! I've watched the episodes through many, many times and never noticed that before. And yes, poor Anya. ::pets her::

[identity profile] sweet-ali.livejournal.com 2005-12-28 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
OOh, i love finding little things like that!

[identity profile] fotada.livejournal.com 2005-12-29 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
That's such a cool bit of continuity. Stuff like this makes me miss the show that much more.

We in the Buffy fandom aren't the only obsessives. I just read in Premiere magazine that director Tim Burton tracked down the kid who played the banjo in that memorable scene in Deliverance just so he could use him in a brief cameo for his movie Big Fish. After all these years, he of course didn't even look anything like he did back then, but Burton felt it was important to cast him in the movie. I knew Burton was a little odd, but still...