*nods. Yeah. I don't get the current Republicans at all. I don't know if it's cause I'm Canadian and I totally can see the benefit of a system of healthcare that isn't run by the insurance companies... And the stuff he talks about being small stuff.. It's big stuff! Money away from PBS (big bird) is money away from educational media, something sorely lacking when you look at the American media. The War on Women/binders? That's not small stuff. Women's body's shouldn't be legislated. That's about equality! I know it's s slippery slope argument, but once you start legislating the body, how much further is it before women should be baby factories, not working, not voting, whatever? It dehumanizes the person to take choice away from them. Let's not even add in the whole women in the workplace/binders of women bs (something Romney had no right to claim, he didn't put any effort into that, it was presented to him by outside parties).
"The old capitalism, the old arguments of hard work, stick-to-itiveness, self-reliance, charity, helping out in the community." This is not what the Republicans said. The message the Republicans put out there was that they were not for equality - race, sexual orientation, gender. Obama was the one talking about charity and helping out in the community.
I sincerely hope that the Republican party and it's supporters can get their heads out of their asses. The first Republican president was Lincoln. Has any of that party even understood the first sentence of his Gettysberg address, one of the most quoted sentences in American history? The man was about equality! When you look over what each Republican president is known for.. quite a few were very focused on civil rights. You read their histories, so many of those early presidents wouldn't recognize their party anymore, their ideals are with current Democratic parties.
Anyways, yeah. I am flabbergasted at the Republicans now.
The definitions change over the years as the smaller factions attempt to take prominence. Bush wasn't fiscally conservative and neither is Romney but that's who they're trying to court so that's the label they apply to themselves.
They toss around phrases like redistribution of wealth in scary tones while ignoring that supply-side economics does exactly that when they refuse to close the loopholes that benefits companies from shipping jobs overseas.
Of course if they were actual conservatives they'd come up with a plan to close the $300B/yr tax gap from people who simply don't pay what they owe. Then they wouldn't need to raise taxes.
But yeah, the guy who advocates feeding and taking care of people is the antichrist.
The very thing they were so afraid of the last four years. Well, at least this election delivered reality to some of them. Though they'll never admit they're all just horrible, racist, vindictive dicks. But better than nothing.
For serious. I lean libertarian (in the "social liberalism but fiscal restraint" way, not the "we'd make Ayn Rand required reading in all school curricula if the very existence of school curricula weren't an intolerable infringement of personal liberty" way), and side-eye the American left's tendency to slap band-aids on giant hemorrhaging wounds and then descend into magical thinking and demagoguery with whoever's not happy about it. But man, at least they're trying, and they're more-or-less what it says on the tin. I'll take "overtax and overspend, partly on social programs ranging from vital to benignly ineffectual, partly on boondoggles for assorted rent-seeking interest groups" over "undertax, overspend on the military-industrial complex and boondoggles for assorted really scary rent-seeking interest groups, justify it by pinching pennies from school-lunch programs, try to ram Christian fundamentalism into everyone's private lives, and cap it all off by claiming to be the party of small government." Aside from being a far more unpleasant form of fiscal irresponsibility, that's just insulting.
Ditto regulation. Does anyone really approve of the half-assed thickets of red tape that emerged from the Democrats' attempts to reform health care and financial markets? I doubt it, but I sure as shit am not going to vote them out when the Republicans are waiting in the wings to craft efficient legislation that will neatly rig the game in favor of financiers and oligopolists.
Unusually enough for Rush Limbaugh, that article would almost be a seductive line of reasoning if the only major alternative to the Democrats actually represented "hard work, stick-to-itiveness, self-reliance" and all the rest. But the Republicans have jumped off Batshit Cliff and are too busy rolling around in the guano cushion at the bottom, trading vitriol about everyone up above who hasn't taken the plunge, to represent much of anything. Rush accusing Obama voters of believing in Santa Claus is, well, a bit rich.
As usual, ol Rush contradicts himself no less than five times in one rant.
What gravy train? The economy is in the toilet. How would Romney, who operates overseas corporations in China, help OUR country. He says it's all about hard work, yet the people who work hard are the 47% he said is not worth his time. He came from a hardworking, down to earth people? PLEASE. He came from a rich household. He's never worked a day in his life.
Glad we all saw his 1950's ideal, uptight, backwards little white supremist vision for what it was and ousted him. If only we could sew Rush's lips shut. then there would be less garbage littering our airwaves.
Hey, believe it or not, it's an improvement. Remember 4 years ago they were still insisting that they surrounded us. Now they at least recognize that's... not so true. ;)
Maybe in four more years they'll realize that Obama actually did show his birth certificate.
Doesn't matter, Kita; it's perfect! One of the topics guaranteed to drive me up the great wall of rants is the irony of the Small Government Party's obsession with people's sexual behavior. (makes bilabial fricative sound.)
Hey, believe it or not, it's an improvement. Remember 4 years ago they were still insisting that they surrounded us. Now they at least recognize that's... not so true. ;) M-hm. They're losing, like it or not...
Maybe in four more years they'll realize that Obama actually did show his birth certificate. Now now, don't be ridiculous! *g*
I have a lovely quote somewhere by AA Gill which illustrates it perfectly. Will hunt it down for you when I have a moment. It should cheer you.
(What I find funniest is all the people wailing about how it's the end of the world - he's ALREADY been the President for 4 years. What on Earth do you expect him to do NOW?)
As usual, ol Rush contradicts himself no less than five times in one rant. It's an incredible talent.
He's never worked a day in his life. HIGNFY had a fabulous quote the other week from his wife, talking about when they were young and newly married and lived in a tiny little flat and had no money so they had to live off his bonds... These people are just on a different planet to the rest of us.
Glad we all saw his 1950's ideal, uptight, backwards little white supremist vision for what it was and ousted him. If only we could sew Rush's lips shut. then there would be less garbage littering our airwaves. Yeah, dunno how you put up with that kinda stuff. I'm not saying we don't have horrible people over here, but they're mercilessly mocked.
Yeah. I don't get the current Republicans at all. I don't know if it's cause I'm Canadian and I totally can see the benefit of a system of healthcare that isn't run by the insurance companies... And the stuff he talks about being small stuff.. It's big stuff! Don't look at me. I'm a Scandinavian living in England, I'm pretty much a Communist by their standards.
"The old capitalism, the old arguments of hard work, stick-to-itiveness, self-reliance, charity, helping out in the community." This is not what the Republicans said. The message the Republicans put out there was that they were not for equality - race, sexual orientation, gender. Obama was the one talking about charity and helping out in the community. I think they've perfected doublethink?
You read their histories, so many of those early presidents wouldn't recognize their party anymore, their ideals are with current Democratic parties. *nods* It's very strange. Let's hope the party manages to claw things back from the Tea Party wingnuts.
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He's one of the talk-radio guys that my dad listens too, and my dad honestly believes he's "just a good guy whose misunderstood." hfjdksahfksa
Oh, and have you heard of these two tumblrs:
White People Mourning Mitt Romney
The response (to the above): Minorities Mourning Mitt Romney (I snorted so hard after I clicked the link on this one).
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*giggles uncontrollably*
Thank you!
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ETA: Also, a Venn diagram of every single Obama conspiracy. Unsure of whether he's a lizard, a muslim, a communist, or just plain black? Now you can know for sure!
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It's like sad!Fox News headquarters over at my house, and probably throughout both sides of my family.
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Even that rant of his is out of touch with reality....
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And someone send that Venn diagram to the GOP - they could learn something. (Based on the Venn diagrams they produced for Romney...)
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Look, he may have not been the most optimal candidate, but he's a fine man. He would have been great for this country.
Not being transparent at all in that one.
I'd say Santa was the one who lost. After all, Romney was just a made up figment by the right.
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"The old capitalism, the old arguments of hard work, stick-to-itiveness, self-reliance, charity, helping out in the community." This is not what the Republicans said. The message the Republicans put out there was that they were not for equality - race, sexual orientation, gender. Obama was the one talking about charity and helping out in the community.
I sincerely hope that the Republican party and it's supporters can get their heads out of their asses. The first Republican president was Lincoln. Has any of that party even understood the first sentence of his Gettysberg address, one of the most quoted sentences in American history? The man was about equality! When you look over what each Republican president is known for.. quite a few were very focused on civil rights. You read their histories, so many of those early presidents wouldn't recognize their party anymore, their ideals are with current Democratic parties.
Anyways, yeah. I am flabbergasted at the Republicans now.
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http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151299959267177&set=a.10150134893762177.329350.609677176&type=1&theater
Hope it works for you.
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Will get back to your other comment later...
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It's just fascinating to see them try to spin reality...
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The definitions change over the years as the smaller factions attempt to take prominence. Bush wasn't fiscally conservative and neither is Romney but that's who they're trying to court so that's the label they apply to themselves.
They toss around phrases like redistribution of wealth in scary tones while ignoring that supply-side economics does exactly that when they refuse to close the loopholes that benefits companies from shipping jobs overseas.
Of course if they were actual conservatives they'd come up with a plan to close the $300B/yr tax gap from people who simply don't pay what they owe. Then they wouldn't need to raise taxes.
But yeah, the guy who advocates feeding and taking care of people is the antichrist.
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Ditto regulation. Does anyone really approve of the half-assed thickets of red tape that emerged from the Democrats' attempts to reform health care and financial markets? I doubt it, but I sure as shit am not going to vote them out when the Republicans are waiting in the wings to craft efficient legislation that will neatly rig the game in favor of financiers and oligopolists.
Unusually enough for Rush Limbaugh, that article would almost be a seductive line of reasoning if the only major alternative to the Democrats actually represented "hard work, stick-to-itiveness, self-reliance" and all the rest. But the Republicans have jumped off Batshit Cliff and are too busy rolling around in the guano cushion at the bottom, trading vitriol about everyone up above who hasn't taken the plunge, to represent much of anything. Rush accusing Obama voters of believing in Santa Claus is, well, a bit rich.
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What gravy train? The economy is in the toilet. How would Romney, who operates overseas corporations in China, help OUR country. He says it's all about hard work, yet the people who work hard are the 47% he said is not worth his time. He came from a hardworking, down to earth people? PLEASE. He came from a rich household. He's never worked a day in his life.
Glad we all saw his 1950's ideal, uptight, backwards little white supremist vision for what it was and ousted him. If only we could sew Rush's lips shut. then there would be less garbage littering our airwaves.
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Maybe in four more years they'll realize that Obama actually did show his birth certificate.
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Seriously. That is a great, great, line!
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M-hm. They're losing, like it or not...
Maybe in four more years they'll realize that Obama actually did show his birth certificate.
Now now, don't be ridiculous! *g*
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(Did you see the Onion article called something like 'Women Relieved to still find themselves in 2012'?
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I have a lovely quote somewhere by AA Gill which illustrates it perfectly. Will hunt it down for you when I have a moment. It should cheer you.
(What I find funniest is all the people wailing about how it's the end of the world - he's ALREADY been the President for 4 years. What on Earth do you expect him to do NOW?)
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It's an incredible talent.
He's never worked a day in his life.
HIGNFY had a fabulous quote the other week from his wife, talking about when they were young and newly married and lived in a tiny little flat and had no money so they had to live off his bonds... These people are just on a different planet to the rest of us.
Glad we all saw his 1950's ideal, uptight, backwards little white supremist vision for what it was and ousted him. If only we could sew Rush's lips shut. then there would be less garbage littering our airwaves.
Yeah, dunno how you put up with that kinda stuff. I'm not saying we don't have horrible people over here, but they're mercilessly mocked.
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Don't look at me. I'm a Scandinavian living in England, I'm pretty much a Communist by their standards.
"The old capitalism, the old arguments of hard work, stick-to-itiveness, self-reliance, charity, helping out in the community." This is not what the Republicans said. The message the Republicans put out there was that they were not for equality - race, sexual orientation, gender. Obama was the one talking about charity and helping out in the community.
I think they've perfected doublethink?
You read their histories, so many of those early presidents wouldn't recognize their party anymore, their ideals are with current Democratic parties.
*nods* It's very strange. Let's hope the party manages to claw things back from the Tea Party wingnuts.
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Being fiscally conservative -- wanting to cut spending and lower taxes -- is NOT going to go away.
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