elisi: Edwin holding a tiny snowman (Dangerous Doctor)
elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2012-09-05 10:21 pm
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Asylum of the Daleks. DW S7.1

These thoughts are going to be brief - not because there's not a lot to dig into, but because this week is so busy I can't describe it. So I'll touch on the major imagery and leave it at that for now...

Eggs
First things first: Props to Moffat for not just poking at every single egg-terminate joke ever, but for also making large swathes of the audience crack up when Rory picked up what he called an 'egg' - because everyone knows that it's a Dalek bump... And if you don't know why this is laugh-out-loud funny, then make haste and watch The Curse of Fatal Death, Moffat's first outing writing DW. (It's a Comic Relief 'sketch' and beyond brilliant.)

But - there is a more serious side to this. Eggs are a symbol of life (and rebirth). A Dalek would never need an egg - it is a weapon, something deformed/mutated and dead (as in - unable to reproduce naturally). And this is where it ties in with the story: Amy and Rory's break-up might be a tad contrived (although it is the exact sort of thing Amy would do, and absolutely fits in with her reasoning), but looking beneath the surface all the metaphors fall into place: The souffle was burned (again), and Amy can't have children - eggs and milk, these are the key. Also it's about looking beneath the surface damage or issues. The Doctor wonders where Oswin got the milk, and the damage to Amy isn't just emotional, it's physical. All the eggs are broken...

Eyes (windows/mirrors)
There has always been a lot of eye imagery in Moffat's Who, and it's really drawing together now. It is tied in with all kinds of things - such as self-perception and looking out versus looking in. Most obviously we see this with Oswin, whose image of self is completely at odds with reality - but of course she is a mirror for the Doctor, whom the Daleks call 'Predator': That is, someone more dangerous than they are themselves. It also goes the other way of course - Oswin looks like a Dalek - has been completely converted - yet she has managed to cling onto her humanity. Essentially: Don't always trust your eyes. Also, I am struck by all the one-eyed-ness (Daleks have one eye, all those eye patches last season), and of course Davros' third eye... I will probably write something more on this at a later date.

Memory etc.
The theme of S6 is very much carried forward here. Then it was physical death, now it is death of a different kind - the Daleks forget him, and this is huge. They've been around since the very, very beginning, and this kind of erasure is... fascinating, and possibly not entirely good. Oh it's marvellous on many levels, but the man who could turn an army around at the mention of his name is slowly being dismantled - and where will that leave him? Which ties in with who-ever-it-is who is pulling all the strings. (Oh hai there multi-season arc, I love you.) Plz be Omega!

GIRL IN A BOX
This is the point where I have to give up. Because I could talk about Oswin forever (her name, the way she is like a nightmare version of CAL, Carmen, dancers, all that red, human/monster, souffles, dreams etc etc), but I'll have to wait. But she is a mirror absolutely EVERYTHING, and I think I know who she is, and it all ties together beautifully and I... really can't talk about it all now.

In conclusion: Moffat still owns ALL THE METAPHORS, the show is still like poetry, and I feel like I'm slightly lost in a hall of mirrors - I need to work out which ones are real and which ones are reflections, and then I can work out what's happening...

[identity profile] zanthinegirl.livejournal.com 2012-09-05 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Nods. And I keep thinking that Amy & Rory are a mirror for the Doctor & the Daleks. Love and hatred, but also connectedness/ disconnectedness. I'm not articulating it very well, but it's fascinating me.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-05 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Man, after seeing how deeply you dig into these episodes, I'm surprised your head hasn't exploded. If this is just the beginning, I can't wait to see the rest.

~ srmcd1

[identity profile] ladymercury-10.livejournal.com 2012-09-05 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
oh, nice catch with the eggs, there. Lots of double meanings.

Oh my goodness, she even sort of looks like Cal, doesn't she?

This is all the best Moffat again. I am so very happy.

[identity profile] ladymercury-10.livejournal.com 2012-09-06 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
It's like someone looked at the whisk attachment on a Dalek, thought of the obvious, and then came up with the most brilliant way to work it all together, COMPLETE WITH SOUFFLE JOKES. It's amazing.

[identity profile] ladymercury-10.livejournal.com 2012-09-06 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Years of fanboy plotting, I think, before they actually gave him any power. Doctor Who's been going on so long, it's basically its own top-qual fanfiction now. :P
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[identity profile] redjaywrites.livejournal.com 2012-09-05 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Plz be Omega!
PLZ BE OMEGA!

[identity profile] lyricwrites.livejournal.com 2012-09-06 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
But she is a mirror absolutely EVERYTHING, and I think I know who she is, and it all ties together beautifully and I... really can't talk about it all now.

Not that you have to answer, but I'm curious: do you figure you know who she is by name, or in more general terms? Because I'm pretty sure/hoping hard that she's going to be the person that the Doctor puts back together, in contrast to the various people he's torn apart or turned upside down or just generally shaken the hell out of—I think doing that would be a huge turning point for him. But I haven't (yet) connected her with any character we already know.

[identity profile] purplefringe.livejournal.com 2012-09-07 05:29 pm (UTC)(link)
BUT BUT BUT NO! That's NOT FAIR! You can't not say anything! That's just MEAN! Who is Oswin??

I meant it the other day when I said I was super excited about your meta - this was wonderful. It is so very like my own thoughts, but actually coherent! :D Boxes, memory, identity, perception - Moffat really got ALL his buzzwords into this one, didn't he?!

Something else I thought of (amongst other things) - tying in with the theme of perception and identity, Amy Pond is surely the most metamorphosed companion of the new series? By which I mean, she has - nearly but not quite - been transformed into a Weeping Angel, a Dalek, and a Vampire-Space-Fish, as well as having her own Ganger, and being married to a guy who spent 2000 years as a plastic Roman. Sure, Rose was turned into a faceless person by the Wire, and was temporarily possessed by Cassandra, but I'm fairly sure Amy has undergone the most near-transformations of any companion. What do you make of that?

Oswin in the Dalek also reminded me of Amy in the Tesselector....
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[personal profile] promethia_tenk 2012-09-08 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
You know, I'd just been musing over this the other day. It's like Rory's thing is dying and Amy's thing is being possessed and transformed.

IDK, when I think of something I'll let you know . . .
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[personal profile] promethia_tenk 2012-09-08 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like Moff treats Amy as deeply psychologically . . . porous. In good and bad ways. Time crack flowing through her head. Memory. Susceptible to being taken over and influenced.

But she also has a very permeating effect on her surroundings. She can summon things back into existence with the power of her memory. She tends to influence things and make her presence felt--when Amy ain't happy, ain't nobody happy.

Generally the line between Amy and everything around her seems a lot more fuzzy and permeable than any of the other characters. Which is perhaps why she gets so flinty and forceful--she has no other defenses?
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[personal profile] promethia_tenk 2012-09-08 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
Her insight could be seen as a part of that. I mean she'll suss people out in a hot minute, she's very porous to what they're giving off.

[identity profile] a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com 2012-09-06 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Moffat is my hero - and a godly writer amongst men.

This whole post *sniffles* so gorgeous and you put into perspective what I can't completely touch on -

*HUGS YOU HARD*
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[personal profile] owlboy 2012-09-06 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
Willing to bet that Omega doesn't show up :P

[identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com 2012-09-06 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, your analysis is awesome as ever. I particularly love your thoughts on the eggs. :D And you're right, Moffat is definitely metaphor and symbol ~focused, which I've always appreciated even when the general story doesn't do much for me.

[identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com 2012-09-06 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
MY SHOOOOOOOOOOOOW.

[identity profile] masakochan.livejournal.com 2012-09-06 09:17 am (UTC)(link)
I think I may have spotted some continuity with the whole milk thing. :D

The Empty Child:
Nine: Know how long you can knock around space without happening to bump into Earth?
Rose: 5 days? Or is that just when we're outta' milk?
Nine: All the species in the universe, and it has to come out of a cow.

Asylum of the Daleks:
Eleven: Where do you get the milk?
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[personal profile] unfeathered 2012-09-08 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee! Thanks for the link - I'd never got round to watching The Curse of Fatal Death before and I'm glad I've seen it now. It was pitch-perfect. So many great Doctors and Jonathan Pryce does a brilliant job as a mix of the Delgado and Ainley Masters!

[personal profile] kikimay 2012-09-09 10:35 am (UTC)(link)
Love your take on Doctor Who!
Generally, I'm all about BtVS meta and with the Doctor I tend to just enjoy the ride and be a happy fangirl, but it's very nice to read your reviews.
Just one question: how can the Ponds and Eleventh ear a human voice, when they talk to Oswin?
She's a dalek. We see her true form in the end and she's completly dalek, even with the dalek-y voice. So why? Mistake or hint for something more?
That's all. I'm gonna be a very happy fangirl because the Doctor is back and the Ponds are so OTP! It hurts how much they're great together! >O

[identity profile] mizuki1988.livejournal.com 2012-09-11 01:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmmm... I get where you're coming from, and your thoughts are as fabulous as always, but I can't really share your enthusiasm about the episode.

I mean, after reading your post I can see all those nice metaphors and all, and it's probably all pretty fascinating if you delve into it...

But the episode itself was very flat to me, storywise. I was very disappointed with it and I can't seem to muster up any kind of enthusiasm about it apart from anger at the Amy/Rory storyline.