I just start on DW, crosspost, read my DW list, and if I've run out of time or LJ is acting up, oh well. More and more of my people are crossposting everything each time LJ goes down, it seems! :)
Now and again I tell myself that it's easy, but... I dunno. Everything just looks wrong? I've had the same LJ style since forever, and they don't have it here. Also I guess I'm just lazy. ;)
Hey, I have icons that I've had uploaded on LJ for years longer than DW has been around. This place is NEW and I am OLD. (The drama LJ has caused over the years...) Ah, you young 'uns, you don't know that you've been born.
Horrendous treatment of users was a good reason. Although I'm not entirely certain that I didn't just want a new site to learn . . . (I don't get the internet's collective reflex to protest every time a website makes changes. NEW THINGS! *flail* What does it do?!?!? *poke, poke*)
I don't mind changes, as long as they're GOOD changes. Oh my god, the day they made it possible to edit comments I was ready to KISS them.
And I'm conflicted with regards to the LJ vs. DW thing. Obviously LJ has a lot of problems (starting back when they allowed adverts, it's been a slippery slope ever since), but all the attacks make me sort of defensive at the same time? The devil you know, and all that. Plus, like you say, this place is a bit on the hippie side. And I feel like an archeologist.
There is a sort of ideological war going on--it's all a bit tense :-\ But you've got stakes in LJ, there's no denying that. I do actually feel quite strongly about a lot of DW's governing principles, but . . . *tiptoes around the flare-ups*
There was a time when LJ didn't have ads? I am starting to see the wisdom of simply paying for what you want on the internet rather than relying on advertising *squishes Netflix* Admittedly, I use Ad-Blocker all the time anyway, so I didn't really see them, but you know that's a force swaying their business decisions all the same . . .
Heh. I feel like an archaeologist on either site, so it hardly matters, but it is just more pleasant over here: less yelling and drama. Also, as much as I love my little niche on LJ, LJ itself has never really felt like home? I think I'd always feel like a bit of a squatter, no matter what. DW is something that can be mine.
Well, LJ is my fannish history. Much like Buffy shaped my fannish thinking, so LJ shaped how I saw & interacted with fandom. It taught me pretty much everything, and I have friends going back to before my youngest was born.
DW is very nice (and clearly the people in charge are a lot nicer), but it still just feels like a copy. Like... a shiny, eco-friendly designer town. And I've lived in the metropolis ever since I bought my house, and although there's crime and all sorts of problems, it's still home.
Anyway, I am glad DW exists. 'Tis shiny. And I don't mind having a holiday home here. :)
Was bright blue text on bright blue squares something LJ committed?
I think by and large when websites makes aesthetic changes it tends to be for the better (omg, say what you will about ditching subject lines, but the new LJ comment pages are so much prettier). The big thing that gets to me is when they start playing fast and loose with user privacy, usually by pushing for ever-greater integration, which is what finally drove me off Facebook, good riddance.
I think I am resigning myself to the state of my bathroom for awhile longer. The world's not gonna stop spinning. Also whenever I get out from under the blankets it is cold.
Well I have four other people CREATING MESS. I doubt I can ever catch up, but at least I can stop it being too much of a tip...
ETA: I had a very lazy morning, mind you. Mostly catching up with all of Mark Reads Lord of the Rings. (I swear, he is the most adorable person IN THE WORLD!) Enjoy your blankets.
OK, thus far I've had no problem today with LJ, so I assume it's a bit of a regional or intermittent thing ... more DDoS fun from the land of Baba Yaga and Napoleonic defeats?
I share your ambivalence re the whole DW vs LJ. My entry into LJ back in 2005-06 was part of a long-term revival of my largely dormant skiffy fannish life, via further journeys into online Who fandom (and BSG), as well as being furtherance of the fanfic-writing habit I'd just acquired. It feels like home to me. I like its look better than I like DW's, although I understand why DW's visual options are narrower.
I'm also not at ease with the apparent cultural tensions that pop up between each site's passionate users. I've never been an all-or-nothing, either-or person; more of an "and" type, I think. I see no reason why I can't operate in both neighborhoods, if I'm willing to jump back and forth.
Right now, though, I'm doing a short (medium? I dunno) term experiment, trying to operate primarily from DW and only secondarily from LJ.
The shenanigans (lovely word, shenanigans) that LJ's current owners have pulled most recently, added to other things they've done in the past, might not bother me as much as they bother others, but they bother people whose opinion I trust. And I don't like the more-than-implied lack of respect toward users such shenanigans reflect. (Nor do I like the new comment pages. They feel, I don't know, dumbed down to me. They're not attractive at all, to my old eyes.)
So, for the next 2-4 months, I'm using DW and crossposting, in an effort to see how many folks on my f'lists interact with me via which site. If DW seems to be the most lively, I'll make the experiment permanent. If not? We'll see.
I hadn't noticed any trouble this morning, but now LJ won't load for me at all. I'm getting varnish errors and internal service errors all over the place, while status is still as placid as you please. Feh.
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*clings to you*
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Whatever. My home base is here now. :P
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After everything, it was their horrendous treatment of users that finally turned me off.
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Also, I am now thinking back on days past and the time when InsaneJournal was the LJ alternative. I never took to that either, although I liked them.
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Horrendous treatment of users was a good reason. Although I'm not entirely certain that I didn't just want a new site to learn . . . (I don't get the internet's collective reflex to protest every time a website makes changes. NEW THINGS! *flail* What does it do?!?!? *poke, poke*)
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And I'm conflicted with regards to the LJ vs. DW thing. Obviously LJ has a lot of problems (starting back when they allowed adverts, it's been a slippery slope ever since), but all the attacks make me sort of defensive at the same time? The devil you know, and all that. Plus, like you say, this place is a bit on the hippie side. And I feel like an archeologist.
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There was a time when LJ didn't have ads? I am starting to see the wisdom of simply paying for what you want on the internet rather than relying on advertising *squishes Netflix* Admittedly, I use Ad-Blocker all the time anyway, so I didn't really see them, but you know that's a force swaying their business decisions all the same . . .
Heh. I feel like an archaeologist on either site, so it hardly matters, but it is just more pleasant over here: less yelling and drama. Also, as much as I love my little niche on LJ, LJ itself has never really felt like home? I think I'd always feel like a bit of a squatter, no matter what. DW is something that can be mine.
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DW is very nice (and clearly the people in charge are a lot nicer), but it still just feels like a copy. Like... a shiny, eco-friendly designer town. And I've lived in the metropolis ever since I bought my house, and although there's crime and all sorts of problems, it's still home.
Anyway, I am glad DW exists. 'Tis shiny. And I don't mind having a holiday home here. :)
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I think by and large when websites makes aesthetic changes it tends to be for the better (omg, say what you will about ditching subject lines, but the new LJ comment pages are so much prettier). The big thing that gets to me is when they start playing fast and loose with user privacy, usually by pushing for ever-greater integration, which is what finally drove me off Facebook, good riddance.
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I have promised holy hellfire on anyone who dares disturb my agenda of couch and screen : )
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ETA: I had a very lazy morning, mind you. Mostly catching up with all of Mark Reads Lord of the Rings. (I swear, he is the most adorable person IN THE WORLD!) Enjoy your blankets.
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I share your ambivalence re the whole DW vs LJ. My entry into LJ back in 2005-06 was part of a long-term revival of my largely dormant skiffy fannish life, via further journeys into online Who fandom (and BSG), as well as being furtherance of the fanfic-writing habit I'd just acquired. It feels like home to me. I like its look better than I like DW's, although I understand why DW's visual options are narrower.
I'm also not at ease with the apparent cultural tensions that pop up between each site's passionate users. I've never been an all-or-nothing, either-or person; more of an "and" type, I think. I see no reason why I can't operate in both neighborhoods, if I'm willing to jump back and forth.
Right now, though, I'm doing a short (medium? I dunno) term experiment, trying to operate primarily from DW and only secondarily from LJ.
The shenanigans (lovely word, shenanigans) that LJ's current owners have pulled most recently, added to other things they've done in the past, might not bother me as much as they bother others, but they bother people whose opinion I trust. And I don't like the more-than-implied lack of respect toward users such shenanigans reflect. (Nor do I like the new comment pages. They feel, I don't know, dumbed down to me. They're not attractive at all, to my old eyes.)
So, for the next 2-4 months, I'm using DW and crossposting, in an effort to see how many folks on my f'lists interact with me via which site. If DW seems to be the most lively, I'll make the experiment permanent. If not? We'll see.
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